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Old 02-13-2020, 03:58 PM   #2151
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New stock offering = money for Giga Texas factory???
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:06 PM   #2152
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While Tesla stock might be a bubble, I could see the company continuing to succeed even if the share price takes a big hit.
But in the meantime, they're going to cash in on the bubble. Hard. But wait, Elon is going to buy 10 million dollars worth of stock, it must be a good idea...

The company isn't going anywhere and will continue to be a success, especially when people keep running up the price for no reason and then continuing to fund them, but where the stock sits is just plain dumb.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:35 PM   #2153
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I sold at $520 a few weeks ago, thinking it was going to burst quickly. This stock offering is basically free money for TSLA. Maybe they will have enough cash to launch all these products they've been promising, as well as new service centers.
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Old 02-13-2020, 04:44 PM   #2154
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Unplugged's tuned Model 3 gets within 0.1sec of the F1 around Tsukuba circuit

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What's more funny is that they intentionally wrote an article trying to make a modified Tesla sound better by comparing it to 25?? year old car and skipping any comparison to the 4 cars in between. If they said it's on comparison with an M4 then they wouldn't get any clicks. Pathetic writing if you ask me.
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Old 02-13-2020, 05:53 PM   #2155
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What's more funny is that they intentionally wrote an article trying to make a modified Tesla sound better by comparing it to 25?? year old car and skipping any comparison to the 4 cars in between. If they said it's on comparison with an M4 then they wouldn't get any clicks. Pathetic writing if you ask me.
Yeah stupid comparison. Is like when they compare the Taycan to a Model S on road coarse performance. The Tesla Model 3 is already faster than an Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio in some courses so why even compared to an M4.:
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:40 PM   #2156
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fun fact.

Um I did not know this.

if you type in 'go fund me' without spaces in between the words

when you hit post it autocorrects to 'imauselessmillenial' HHAHAHA

Been here 20 years and never knew that.
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:16 AM   #2157
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Yeah stupid comparison. Is like when they compare the Taycan to a Model S on road coarse performance. The Tesla Model 3 is already faster than an Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio in some courses so why even compared to an M4.:
Um, wat?
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:17 AM   #2158
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Um, wat?
Yeah that was going to be my response as well. He has issues with reading information, following a conversation, and responding accordingly on top of being just a Tesla fanboy.
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Old 02-14-2020, 09:30 AM   #2159
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Yeah that was going to be my response as well. He has issues with reading information, following a conversation, and responding accordingly on top of being just a Tesla fanboy.
I'll try to explain juanmedina with some fill in the blank association here:

NightHawkSTI is to Subaru fanboyism as Juanmedina is to _____fanboyism

When one drinketh heavily from the cup, ones vision becomes blurry, and ones ears are closed.
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:05 PM   #2160
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What's more funny is that they intentionally wrote an article trying to make a modified Tesla sound better by comparing it to 25?? year old car and skipping any comparison to the 4 cars in between. If they said it's on comparison with an M4 then they wouldn't get any clicks. Pathetic writing if you ask me.
I'm not surprised since we're in an era of clickbait articles - because it's necessary.

Read between the lines and then figure out if it makes sense or not.

And we're already shifting goalposts anyway. That 53s civic? A time attack prepped car.

I'd say that this modified Tesla (is like the article said) more of the AMG, M, or whatever OE style tuning division is - which indicates that as long as the powertrain of an EV holds up - the ability to go fast (in more than just a straight line) is there.

Other lap times by comparison.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/tsukuba

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Old 02-14-2020, 12:08 PM   #2161
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F'in Tesla pricks at work. Came in this morning, 7/9 L2 chargers we have, all blocked by Tesla owners. They do not move their cars all day, and we have signs posted in front of the spaces that say 4 hours max. Mafks.
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Old 02-14-2020, 12:12 PM   #2162
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why are you surprised? We're in an era of clickbait articles - because it's necessary.

Read between the lines and then figure out if it makes sense or not.

And we're already shifting goalposts anyway. That 53s civic? A time attack prepped car.

I'd say that this modified Tesla (is like the article said) more of the AMG, M, or whatever OE style tuning division is - which indicates that as long as the powertrain of an EV holds up - the ability to go fast (in more than just a straight line) is there.

Other lap times by comparison.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/tsukuba
Another thing to consider is that EV's have no power adders.
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:36 PM   #2163
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F'in Tesla pricks at work. Came in this morning, 7/9 L2 chargers we have, all blocked by Tesla owners. They do not move their cars all day, and we have signs posted in front of the spaces that say 4 hours max. Mafks.
Put on your best Kate Gosselin wig and go talk to management - Joking aside, I'm actually serious; they won't learn unless they are called out on it; loud speaker from the office admin "would the Tesla with plate number "1-S-M-U-G-E-V" please move your car, you are in violation of the L2 charger use policy, your car will be towed in 20 minutes".

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Another thing to consider is that EV's have no power adders.
I'm not sure where you are going with this; although the powertrain of the model 3 in question wasn't modified, everything else was, to the tune of at least a 35k price tag on top of the MSRP.

The "factory" cars referenced in this thread don't have additional power adders either (nor extensive suspension mods & aero mods that the Model 3 does); it's just the time attack cars that do the circuit in as quickly as 50 seconds that do.

Yeah you can't add a supercharger/turbo/nitrous to an EV but no matter how large a power adder you put on an ICE you're never going to get full torque from ~0RPM to ~15,500RPM (or is it 17,900RPM? the internet is a confusing place).

EV and ICE are different, they both have their pluses, minuses and areas that can be improved; the Ascension R went straight to the "low hanging fruit" of the model 3 - suspension, wheels, tires, brakes & aero - the diminishing returns start at modding the software to put the hardware at risk (overheating the motors or battery pack, passing too much current through cables and starting a fire, etc.).
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Old 02-14-2020, 01:57 PM   #2164
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“EV’s have no power adders.”

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Another thing to consider is that EV's have no power adders.
I'm not sure again what point you're trying to make. Are you saying Ev's have no power adders so ice cars are lucky because they'd get smoked? One could see that as a total down fall to the cars. But as stated Tesla has released power updates or if you have the non performance awd you can pay 2k for the power of a 3 performance model.
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Old 02-14-2020, 02:47 PM   #2166
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“EV’s have no power adders.”

Receives over the update / flash for 5% more power.

I was not referring to that. I was talking about heavily modified cars with big turbos, high octane fuels, etc etc. Aftermarket power adders. I am well aware of the 5% power bumps . Other than the factory power bumps all that you can do to an EV is suspension, brake mods and weight reduction.

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Old 02-14-2020, 03:10 PM   #2167
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Yeah you can't add a supercharger/turbo/nitrous to an EV but no matter how large a power adder you put on an ICE you're never going to get full torque from ~0RPM to ~15,500RPM (or is it 17,900RPM? the internet is a confusing place).
Such a complete falsehood with EV.

They do not have "full torque" throughout the rev range. They have instant torque down low, but they absolutely do not have full torque everywhere. Maybe you meant "full power"?

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/atta...00-png.112464/
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I was not referring to that. I was talking about heavily modified cars with big turbos, high octane fuels, etc etc. Aftermarket power adders. I am well over of the 5% power bumps . Other than the factory power bumps all that you can do to an EV is suspension, brake modes and weight reduction.
Guess that's a downfall to EV's then. Tesla already knows everything about the car so it's not like someone down the road can crack the code and still retain everything you already paid for or even probably supercharge.
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Such a complete falsehood with EV.

They do not have "full torque" throughout the rev range. They have instant torque down low, but they absolutely do not have full torque everywhere. Maybe you meant "full power"?

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/atta...00-png.112464/
yes my mistake, full power through the range.
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yes my mistake, full power through the range.
Kudos to dwf for pointing this out
The faster you spin a motor the less torque you get

Itís most effective at 0 rpm

Efficiency drops off at extended high rpm use
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The faster you spin a motor the less torque you get

Itís most effective at 0 rpm

Efficiency drops off at extended high rpm use
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Efficiency is likely highest at high rpm. But torque drops off with speed. The full power bit is probably artifact via software controls, as is the rampup over the first 1.25 seconds.
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Efficiency is likely highest at high rpm. But torque drops off with speed. The full power bit is probably artifact via software controls, as is the rampup over the first 1.25 seconds.
yeah, i had the same thought. those look like they're artificially created curves...
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I sold at $520 a few weeks ago, thinking it was going to burst quickly. This stock offering is basically free money for TSLA. Maybe they will have enough cash to launch all these products they've been promising, as well as new service centers.
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