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Old 02-08-2020, 09:35 PM   #1
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U.S.-Market Toyota Supra Four-Cylinder Announcement Likely Imminent
American MkV Supra buyers should soon have a four-banger option

https://www.motortrend.com/news/u-s-...ment-imminent/

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We recently spoke with Ed Laukes, Toyota's group vice president of marketing, at the 2020 Chicago auto show where we asked him if the four-cylinder option would make its way here—we were told to stay tuned until next week. Next week, as many NASCAR fans certainly know, is the Daytona 500. Toyota manufactures seven of the 43 cars entered in next Sunday's race, and we believe Toyota will use the race weekend as an opportunity to announce the arrival of the four-cylinder Supra to the U.S. market.
A recent California Air Resources Board filling shows that a 2.0 liter, I-4 powered Supra has been certified for sale in California
, along with the BMW models that share its engine. If an engine has been emissions-certified in California, a state with some of the strictest emissions regulations in the country, it's likely that the same engine can be sold anywhere in the United States. We've postulated for a while that the entry-level Supra could be coming, but now it appears we'll hear the news very soon.

As a refresher, the four-cylinder is already available in Japan—and in two states of tune. The base version of the 2.0-liter four-banger makes 194 horsepower and 236 lb-ft of torque, and the more powerful variant offers 225 horsepower and 295 lb-ft. For a little perspective, the BMW Z4 s30i—also offered with a 2.0-liter four cylinder—develops 255 horses and 295 lb-ft. It's almost certain we'll only get the more powerful version, possibly with even more grunt.

So is Toyota going to make a four-cylinder announcement next week at Daytona? Laukes said he would be in Florida for the race, and we think the chances are high. Now we wait to find out.
Curious how this will affect the BRZ/GT86 power level & pricing
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:02 PM   #2
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Yeah nobody asked for this. They did ask for a manual option tho. Lost in translation.
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:06 PM   #3
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They did this for people to do engine swaps
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Old 02-08-2020, 10:26 PM   #4
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They did this for people to do engine swaps
What are they putting in?
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Old 02-08-2020, 11:59 PM   #5
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2JZs with manual transmissions
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:13 AM   #6
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Gotcha. Hah. Obvious answer was obvious.
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I was honestly joking. But it’s only a matter of time for someone does that or an LS swap.
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Old 02-09-2020, 12:26 AM   #8
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Curious how this will affect the BRZ/GT86 power level & pricing
If the 4 cyl does arrive here. It could keep the 86/BRZ price in check as they wouldn't want too much overlap.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:07 PM   #9
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Nail in the coffin for any turbo twins, eh? Unless they go automatic only for the Supra, and MT option for the twins, lol.
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The more important question is whether they will offer a MT option for USA in the higher output Supras. If yes, chances are I will buy one. If no, no matter what engine, I will not buy one.
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Old 02-09-2020, 01:29 PM   #11
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Nail in the coffin for any turbo twins, eh?
I really hope not.

The two are still very different cars.
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I'm interested to see the price difference to laugh at how over-valued they think performance is.

If it comes in 20k cheaper and basically the same in every other fashion (minus all the supporting stuff, if any, such as exhaust) I'll be back on here moaning some more about how retarded and overpriced "real" supra is.
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Old 02-09-2020, 04:23 PM   #13
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A 4 cylinder automatic Supra is the answer to a question that nobody is asking. A manual, OTOH, is a different story.
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Old 02-09-2020, 04:38 PM   #14
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Nail in the coffin for any turbo twins, eh? Unless they go automatic only for the Supra, and MT option for the twins, lol.
That's what I'm thinking.
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The B48 is one of the better 4 cylinder engines around. Hopefully they put in the 301 hp version or the 255 hp version at the very least and match it with the 6 speed manual from the M2/M3. Could be a bit lighter and maybe better track focussed version.
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:10 PM   #16
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The more important question is whether they will offer a MT option for USA in the higher output Supras. If yes, chances are I will buy one. If no, no matter what engine, I will not buy one.
No. Guess you have to go 4 banger.
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No. Guess you have to go 4 banger.
If they do release a MT, a 4 banger Supra is better than nothing I suppose.
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I'm interested to see the price difference to laugh at how over-valued they think performance is.

If it comes in 20k cheaper and basically the same in every other fashion (minus all the supporting stuff, if any, such as exhaust) I'll be back on here moaning some more about how retarded and overpriced "real" supra is.
While not exactly peaches to peaches, the Diff between the Z430i & the Z4M40i is only $14k and that includes considerably more Equip on the M40i than just the engine. SO i'm thinking $20k cheaper is not very realistic as that would put the Supra 4Cyl starting price at $29k, only $2k more than the GT86

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If they do release a MT, a 4 banger Supra is better than nothing I suppose.
And while i have no interest in either version at this point, it's not as if the 4cyl is a dog, the Z4 4Cyl claims 0-60 in 5.2 sec. Perhaps not fast enough for Domenic Toretto but not exactly a slouch
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No. Guess you have to go 4 banger.
Nah FI’d 3 banger in a 3 door hatch.

We just may have to finger bang old Mary Jane RottenCrotch at Toyo HQ to get it.
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Is the 4 cylinder turbo charged?
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seeing as it will be a BMW engine, I say yes.
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This car is turning into an early 80s Celica, with the 4 cylinder RWD base car and the "Celica Supra" as the optional I6.

Obligatory: No manual, no care.

The only worthwhile driving configurations now are full EV (convenience of an auto with the response of a manual) or manual non hybrid ICE for the driver engagement.
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This car is turning into an early 80s Celica, with the 4 cylinder RWD base car and the "Celica Supra" as the optional I6.

Obligatory: No manual, no care.

The only worthwhile driving configurations now are full EV (convenience of an auto with the response of a manual) or manual non hybrid ICE for the driver engagement.
so no manual no care, but you like EV???

EV are the antithesis for driver engagement
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This car is turning into an early 80s Celica, with the 4 cylinder RWD base car and the "Celica Supra" as the optional I6.

Obligatory: No manual, no care.
Wow, I had not even thought of that potential. They could release the 4 cylinder as a Celica and retain the 6 cylinder as the Supra. That's an interesting take.

I'll have to jump in on the obligatory: No manual, no care.
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Old 02-10-2020, 03:10 PM   #25
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This car is turning into an early 80s Celica, with the 4 cylinder RWD base car and the "Celica Supra" as the optional I6.

Obligatory: No manual, no care.

The only worthwhile driving configurations now are full EV (convenience of an auto with the response of a manual) or manual non hybrid ICE for the driver engagement.
The FT86 already fills the Celica like option in the line up. Similar power, weight and size, and designed as a sports car from the beginning. Compare it to it's name sake the AE86 and about the only thing it has in common is the name.

The S FR concept is much more akin to the AE86 than the twins.
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