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Old 04-06-2020, 08:43 PM   #126
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The RCM is the same as a Cosworth; OEM pump with some massaging. There's a comparison I did probably about 6 or so years ago comparing them all.

stu, those numbers are low. We get that or better with the 10mm. Is the engine built really loose or are you measuring pressure at the back of the block?
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Old 04-06-2020, 09:46 PM   #127
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The RCM is the same as a Cosworth; OEM pump with some massaging. There's a comparison I did probably about 6 or so years ago comparing them all.

stu, those numbers are low. We get that or better with the 10mm. Is the engine built really loose or are you measuring pressure at the back of the block?
I'm assuming it's really loose probably looser then my .001 extra clearance bearing setup. Or something is worn out. Be the pump bearings or cam journals buckets? Thrust bearings? Wouldn't be hard to inspect for crank walk.
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Old 04-07-2020, 12:50 PM   #128
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Nobody has proven my statements to be wrong so swing on all the nuts you want.

My reference to a gm was price of oil pan. Nothing more. And suggesting a oil level monitoring system be integrated into the system.

Nobody has said if they put a camera in the oil pan to monitor the level.

If you design an oiling system or even want to inspect the factory system you monitor the level in the pan at all times..

Audi doesn't put an oil leveling monitoring system in the pans for ****s and giggles. Why isn't this technology being introduced to the aftermarket pans.

Are we not trying to improve a design and verify what we have and that it is working like it should? If not then what a great job y'all are doing.

More oil in the pan means nothing when there is no oil in the pan. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. A cad system and some metal to cut and a welder can't even cut around that corner.

Y'all have a nice day!
^this is awesome. We need a camera in the oil pan now. Boy that would be great footage. I can't believe Ferrari and McLaren haven't picked up on that idea yet.
Will there be a light in there too or just a camera in a completely dark environment?

also, what does the sentence I underlined even mean?
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Old 04-07-2020, 01:30 PM   #129
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Any suggestions on pump size for an IAG block with Non AVLS/ACVS SOHC heads? Original pump was 7mm. I am not sure if 10 will be TOO big.
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Old 04-07-2020, 01:44 PM   #130
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^this is awesome. We need a camera in the oil pan now. Boy that would be great footage. I can't believe Ferrari and McLaren haven't picked up on that idea yet.
Will there be a light in there too or just a camera in a completely dark environment?

also, what does the sentence I underlined even mean?
It means in the real world numbers don't always add up.

Kiggly racing put a camera in there valve cover to visualize valve float on springs that where proven on paper to work. Go figure..

I'm pretty sure you know jack about McLaren's or Ferrari. If you did you'd see they also have oil level sensors in the pan...
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Old 04-07-2020, 01:46 PM   #131
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Seems most of you have a case of (I'd like to prove you wrong) but have no data or knowledge to back it up.
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Old 04-07-2020, 01:49 PM   #132
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Kiggly racing put a camera in there valve cover to visualize valve float on springs that where proven on paper to work. Go figure..
it would actually make some sense to do that
but you could do that on a bench

So did they remember to put a light under the valve cover too?
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Old 04-07-2020, 02:33 PM   #133
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it would actually make some sense to do that
but you could do that on a bench

So did they remember to put a light under the valve cover too?
A bench eh an engine has it's own atmosphere. And it can change based on it's surrounding environment. Kinda like that super soldier on bloodshot! Love that movie! LoL

What makes you think a camera needs light to focus and do it's job?
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Old 04-07-2020, 03:42 PM   #134
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What makes you think a camera needs light to focus and do it's job?
If there is no light, how can the camera collect and record light? I feel this is an obvious question. Also "its", not "it is".
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:24 PM   #135
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If there is no light, how can the camera collect and record light? I feel this is an obvious question. Also "its", not "it is".
Go Google it. I'm not trying to explain everything to you. I'm not your father.

It is and it's are the same thing. But you're definitely an it.
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:29 PM   #136
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Go Google it. I'm not trying to explain everything to you. I'm not your father.

It is and it's are the same thing. But you're definitely an it.
They sure are, and you used "it's/it is" instead of "its". I was expanding the contraction for ease of explanation.

And I'm very interested in whatever camera you have in mind that doesn't use light of any kind, visible or otherwise...do go on.
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:35 PM   #137
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Well explain why McLaren and Ferrari both use oil level sensors in the oil pan... Let's keep that topic going vs changing the subject which most of you are so notorious for.
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:54 PM   #138
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Well explain why McLaren and Ferrari both use oil level sensors in the oil pan... Let's keep that topic going vs changing the subject which most of you are so notorious for.
Well an oil level sensor isn't a camera, why would it be? Turns out the inside of an engine is rather dark, makes it hard to use a camera for oil level sensing..
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Old 04-07-2020, 05:09 PM   #139
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Well an oil level sensor isn't a camera, why would it be? Turns out the inside of an engine is rather dark, makes it hard to use a camera for oil level sensing..
I suppose you didn't Google how a certain camera works in the dark. LoL believe what you want. Very slippery slope.
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I suppose you didn't Google how a certain camera works in the dark. LoL believe what you want. Very slippery slope.
No camera works in 100% lack of light, some are just very good at amplifying low levels of light. You seem to be implying night vision (?) which again, doesn't work when there is actually 0 light. Low light, yes. If there are no photons to hit the sensor, what is the sensor going to detect?
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:30 PM   #141
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No camera works in 100% lack of light, some are just very good at amplifying low levels of light. You seem to be implying night vision (?) which again, doesn't work when there is actually 0 light. Low light, yes. If there are no photons to hit the sensor, what is the sensor going to detect?
Many cameras have led lighting internal and a projector lens to capture light. Not to mention all the adjustments you can make.

**** just screw some Plexi glass to the side of your oil pan seal it up don't even need a expensive camera. Hahaha.
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:43 PM   #142
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every time I think you can't maintain an even more idiotic position on something you surpass my expectations
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Old 04-07-2020, 07:57 PM   #143
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it would actually make some sense to do that
but you could do that on a bench
Strobe lights are great for stuff like that. Easy to see distortion on rapidly moving parts.

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Old 04-07-2020, 08:05 PM   #144
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Just take an oil level sensor from a legacy pan and install it on your pan, and stop crapping in this thread for crying out loud.

Just where does this thread polluter believe the oil is disappearing to?????? There is no hidden bladder storing the oil in the block and sucking the pan dry, oil is not very compressible! Why is this bs still going on and why won't people just block him already? I've blocked him but the thread keeps getting bumped for a nothing discussion.



Come on now
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:20 PM   #145
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For one thing cars with those sensors suck balls. They just say 'add oil'. Some people want to physically see the level of oil and don't want a moron detector telling them when it's a full quart low, and being instructed to add one finite amount of oil no matter what the actual level is

aaaaannnnndddddd, there are morons who DO in fact want that crap feature.
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Old 04-07-2020, 08:35 PM   #146
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For one thing cars with those sensors suck balls. They just say 'add oil'. Some people want to physically see the level of oil and don't want a moron detector telling them when it's a full quart low, and being instructed to add one finite amount of oil no matter what the actual level is

aaaaannnnndddddd, there are morons who DO in fact want that crap feature.
Who are the "some people" you speak of? I'm not one, I prefer to check my oil level regularly. I also understand the top of the engine can only contain so much oil, so the rest is in the pan or falling into it. The level sensor (like BMW, Audi, etc ) use is just to be sure it is above a safe level. A person who wants to know to the ounce how much is in the pan, really needs to create their own rig and not hassle anyone else about it. That type of person should create their own thread dedicated to it and take the nonsense there.
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Let's take this to the basics. How should one check there oil? LoL I'm not saying a word just if you're doing it wrong
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What happened to this thread?!

Oh, nevermind. This thread just

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Old 04-08-2020, 10:02 AM   #149
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Who are the "some people" you speak of?
I speak of Toolin05sti
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What happened to this thread?!

Oh, nevermind. This thread just
The off topic thread has branched out like cockroaches apparently.
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