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Old 01-07-2009, 09:26 PM   #76
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What's to say that we haven't moved beyond 1080p by the time that format can be widely streamed?
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:42 PM   #77
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yore a pimp crees.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:15 PM   #78
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laughing....CES could be gone in 3 years as well...but ANYWAY

Streaming media has a long way to go and I will always be physical media person...but then again I was bummed when tower records went out of business so not "normal" I suppose.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM   #79
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Didn't even bother reading the rest of the thread...


- People will always want the option of a physical medium for their media.
- Streaming at such a high resolution is NOT three years away.
- Higher than 1080p, it becomes almost impossible to distinguish a difference in picture quality unless you are watching on a projector from a couple feet away

I'll happily continue to buy blu-ray discs instead of buying thousands of dollars in movies and storing them on a central HD hub in my house and one day watching it all go Sputtypoof.


...and LaserDisc was awesome
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:22 PM   #80
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I have to poop now.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:48 PM   #81
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You can stream those these days. It's the way of the future.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:56 PM   #82
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yore a pimp crees.
nah, i'm just a nerd (i know too much about computers and high-tech stuff because i was 'that geek' in my whole family generation) who lost weight, got some confidence and ran with the 'who gives a ****' attitude and who also has good taste
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Old 01-07-2009, 11:58 PM   #83
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I bought a PS3 for teh games anyway
Funniest part of the entire thread
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:00 AM   #84
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Realistically, the infrastructure required to support mass market streaming in HD simply isn't with the existing equipment. There has to be significant upgrades to the pipes before streaming in everyones living room becomes a reality.

Besides, have you ever seen the percentage of households in America that are actually on high-speed? It's a surprisingly small percentage.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:06 AM   #85
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Has anyone even agreed with the OP yet? Has the OP even come back to his thread to try and defend his assertions?

No and No?

I think our work here is finished.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:08 AM   #86
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Has anyone even agreed with the OP yet? Has the OP even come back to his thread to try and defend his assertions?

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I think our work here is finished.
I think he's out buying a laserdisc player.
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Old 01-08-2009, 12:12 AM   #87
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:27 AM   #88
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I think he's out buying a laserdisc player.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:00 AM   #89
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I heard there is a "software" update for blueray coming out next year that will make most current blueray players obsolete...

True/False?
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:08 AM   #90
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Waaaaaahhhhh! I can't afford the new hotness...
PS- As Creees noted, it's BLU-RAY you dumb twunt.

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Old 01-08-2009, 02:14 AM   #91
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I heard there is a "software" update for blueray coming out next year that will make most current blueray players obsolete...

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define obsolete... blu-ray ratification is always changing. the only one that has not been obsoleted since it came onto market is the ps3, but again the changes were about fancy menus, going online and bullcrap like that (think feature set) and not much to do with actually playing a disc.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:16 AM   #92
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define obsolete... blu-ray ratification is always changing. the only one that has not been obsoleted since it came onto market is the ps3, but again the changes were about fancy menus, going online and bullcrap like that (think feature set) and not much to do with actually playing a disc.
It was something to do with a change in the discs to allow more storage. The PS3 supposedly could be updated, but everything else is fubared.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:21 AM   #93
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It was something to do with a change in the discs to allow more storage.
Thats way off and I'm not 100% sure, but the disc is packing a crap load more layers and its not due to some special change in the lasers. Well, except if current lasers can adjust to the new amounts of layers. No one knows yet I'm thinking but ugh, Sony will have shot themselves in the foot if they think borking the ps3 is a good idea.

But again thats prolly a few years away.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:33 AM   #94
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btw:

Hitachi demonstrates playback of Quadruple Layer Blu-ray Disc using "normal drive"


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1984


The hitch is the slower 2/3x drives, aka cheapos will prolly not be fast enough to read the 4/5d layers.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:37 AM   #95
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Has anyone even agreed with the OP yet? Has the OP even come back to his thread to try and defend his assertions?

No and No?

I think our work here is finished.
And for the record, I agree with OmahaBoobie aka OmahaSTI aka OmahaDUI aka The Tree... it's just that he's off by about 7 years.

1080p is going to be the defacto standard for HD video for years to come. Newer higher def standards are in the works, but 1080p will establish itself as the defacto television standard. 1080p will become the new 480i in the next 5-7 years.

Why won't bluray die? Several reasons (most all of them being stated already):

-Lack of sufficient internet infrastructure. We are nowhere near being able to dish out 1080p video and truehd-quality audio over the internet.

-Also, lack of sufficient bandwidth by cable and satellite providers. DirecTV and DISH network are already stretched thin with bandwidth because of HD programming. Cable providers like comcast are in the same boat. About the best thing going for HD programming (most potential) is Verizon FIOS and availability is extremely limited. There is also concern that verizon will never be able to roll out widespread support for FIOS.

-Current media limitations (pricing and capacity). Sure, media is cheaper than ever, but they need to get even lower and larger. You'd only be able to fit about 20 bluray quality movies on a 1tb hd.

The death of physical media (CD, DVD, blu ray) as we once knew it is coming. Hell, the CD is already practically dead.

When we have the bandwidth to download movies in a short amount of time and the media to store hundreds of movies, blu ray will die. What would that take?

If you wanted to download 1 50gb bluray movie in 15 minutes, you'd need the equivalent of an OC-12 in your home. That's a 622mbps line, or 207 times faster than 3mbps DSL.

If you wanted to store your entire library of bluray-quality movies (say 250) on a media server, you'd need 12 terabytes of storage, or $1200 of hd space in current prices.

So yes... it's coming. But give it 10 years... ATLEAST.

Conclusion: blu ray is a good technology that's here to stay. I'm going to wait for the players to come down a bit, though. I'll never forget buying my first DVD player for $300.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:41 AM   #96
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Dude, did you know the bullet point on 100-250GB BR discs... the intended purpose for them is showing full theatre quality movies at the home. How are, lol, yea stream me some 200Gb movies.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:42 AM   #97
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<-- has both blu-ray and hd-dvd


God damn it now I have to watch Taken again.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:55 AM   #98
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Blue-ray isn't really the transitional medium. it's the IPTV set top boxes (Netflix Roku, Vudo, fyre, ect.) that will be the transitional medium, then it'll just move to pc's. But BluRay might be the last great stand of movies on discs.
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Old 01-08-2009, 02:56 AM   #99
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HoratioCaine upgrades out of convenience, not techno-geekery. I went from VHS to DVD because I hate rewinding tapes, and Damn, it sucks when the VCR eats a tape.

I'll upgrade to whatever is next when it is somehow significantly better than DVD.
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Old 01-08-2009, 03:02 AM   #100
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HoratioCaine upgrades out of convenience, not techno-geekery. I went from VHS to DVD because I hate rewinding tapes, and Damn, it sucks when the VCR eats a tape.

I'll upgrade to whatever is next when it is somehow significantly better than DVD.
Ask [email protected] about mah ps3+67 inches of screen. A/B screenings of dvd vs BR is stupefying.
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