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Old 08-31-2019, 09:37 AM   #1
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News 2021 WRX and WRX STI - FA24???

Check out this article from The Drive confirming the EJ25 will be replaces with an FA24 variant come 2021!


https://www.thedrive.com/news/29632/...sepower-report
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:46 AM   #2
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I see a report of a report and no confirmation from Subaru. Did I miss it?
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Old 08-31-2019, 09:50 AM   #3
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Awesome news if true! Will be interesting to see whether they add electric power steering(all but a guarantee at this point) and an active suspension.
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:15 AM   #4
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:18 AM   #5
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It says an FA24 STI is likely, NOT is confirmed. This article is just a summary of another article that is guessing what the next gen will be like
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Old 08-31-2019, 10:20 AM   #6
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Nothing confirmed. This is the latest rumor:

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...platform-news/

Japan to get FA20 STi. They are still deciding whether we are going to get the same FA20 or FA24 for US.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:59 AM   #7
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Every article is a rumor of a rumor lately.. speculating which engine the JDM & USDM versions will receive.. and still referring to Torque New's rumor of the Series.White which Subaru hasn't provided any indication of. The Series.White seems unlikely given the S209, but who knows. Subaru announced the Series.Gray alongside the WRX/STI pricing last year. And they've already announced the 2020 ceramic white BRZ tS..

Of course these rumors are "click bait" (like this thread) and draw traffic to their sites. We'll just have to await official news from Subaru..

Can we change the thread title to "FA24 Rumored" until a credible source is cited?

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Old 08-31-2019, 11:48 AM   #8
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@Straight6

Thanks for that link, I haven't seen that yet, I'm not sure how I feel about an FA20 STi with 315hp. I really hope we get the FA24 w/ at least 340hp. What I'm really interested in is how the new generation will look.
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Old 08-31-2019, 11:59 AM   #9
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Thanks for that link, I haven't seen that yet, I'm not sure how I feel about an FA20 STi with 315hp. I really hope we get the FA24 w/ at least 340hp. What I'm really interested in is how the new generation will look.
Everything suggests that WRX will retain the FA20DIT as it sits with a power bump. The STI version may get upgrades for durability/cooling/bigger turbo but I wouldn't expect more than 315-320 hp, even if it ends up being the FA24 for the US.
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Old 09-01-2019, 11:31 PM   #10
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What I'm really interested in is how the new generation will look.
Look at the Viziv Performance and Performance STI Concepts. Now imagine all of their styling cues watered down a bit and grafted onto the SGP Impreza.

Just donít be shocked that water is wet when the real thing isnít basically an exotic, like everyone somehow was when the 15 WRX looked like a WRX.
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:05 AM   #11
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Look at the Viziv Performance and Performance STI Concepts. Now imagine all of their styling cues watered down a bit and grafted onto the SGP Impreza.

Just don***8217;t be shocked that water is wet when the real thing isn***8217;t basically an exotic, like everyone somehow was when the 15 WRX looked like a WRX.


I just hope the next gen gives us a little more design to be excited about than the VA. I know design isn't really a Subaru thing, but their concepts show that they do have the ability.

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Old 10-10-2019, 12:36 PM   #12
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I hope that if they do include FA24 + all the shiz in the STI that the price won't be insane because then just get the corvette.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:37 PM   #13
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I hope that if they do include FA24 + all the shiz in the STI that the price won't be insane because then just get the corvette.
Ah yes, what a great point. STI's closest competitors...the Corvette. One the tow most cross shopped cars. My kids will love the rear seat room, and I am sure it will be a stellar performer on my daily commute in a foot of snow. The 25K or so price difference is really pocket change. Practicality is wash between them too. Thanks.
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Old 02-25-2020, 10:04 PM   #14
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Default Unsubstantiated rumor of WRX STi 2021 features

Posted Feb 22 2020 by forbes

Unsubstantiated rumor of WRX STi 2021 features

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly.../#c1b1ce423f96
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Old 02-25-2020, 10:26 PM   #15
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My Prediction:

MY2021 JDM and possibly EDM will be the new chassis and will break cover in September/October 2020.

MY2021 USDM will be the last/final year of the current car, and a short model year to get rid of the last of the VA models from the production line.

The new design will be a MY2022 for the USDM and will arrive in early 2021, possibly making the US debut at the Philly Auto Show.

I'll be shocked if they ditch the CVT, unless they share an auto from Toyota's parts bin. They simply don't have the resources to develop a completely new DCT from the ground up. And even if they did, it wouldn't be without issues and growing pains, as well as a hell of a risky business decision.
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Old 02-25-2020, 11:57 PM   #16
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Posted Feb 22 2020 by forbes

Unsubstantiated rumor of WRX STi 2021 features

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly.../#c1b1ce423f96
Good grief man - youíre reposting. Scroll up a page or two.
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Old 02-26-2020, 12:22 AM   #17
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Europe and asia are more likely than not going to be the recipients of this 400+ horse FA24, and the 330 horsepower rating for the U.S version is probably closer to what we are getting here regardless of what engine we end up with in the debut of the next gen STI.

I also think that Subaru is probably going to be using this 2.4 in the euro and asia markets for a few years and the next upgrade to the STI platform is going to be a 100+ horsepower electric motor to supplement it...but that it will also be the euro and aisian markets that get that..and maybe we will finally get the 400 horse or close to that output version of the FA for the U.S before WE then get the electric boosted version by 2024 or 2025....with outputs of 450 to 500 horsepower.
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Old 09-24-2020, 10:16 PM   #18
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^^^^
The interiors have gotten better for, but I canít say I agree that theyíre now the equal to a good modern Toyota. My wifeís 2019 Outback limited has an interior that feels about one generation better than my 2009 Honda. The new Outback is nicer and its interior is about one generation behind the best modern Toyota or Honda.

Thatís actually a good thing about Subaru. They still often have physical buttons for everything.
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Old 09-24-2020, 11:22 PM   #19
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The interiors have gotten better for, but I canít say I agree that theyíre now the equal to a good modern Toyota. My wifeís 2019 Outback limited has an interior that feels about one generation better than my 2009 Honda. The new Outback is nicer and its interior is about one generation behind the best modern Toyota or Honda.

Thatís actually a good thing about Subaru. They still often have physical buttons for everything.

Re: physical buttons: not anymore. See Legacy, Outback 2020
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Old 08-31-2019, 03:25 PM   #20
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A 5-10hp bump along with the guaranteed weight increase with SGP means the "new" STI will be only as fast, or slower than the current one which is downright pathetic for an all-new performance car. Sure it may improve in 30-60mph pulls due to the improved powerband, but if they take the same recipe that the 2015+ WRX had it's going to be very disappointing. I sold my 15 WRX after 2 years because it lacked any real sense of feel - very dull and bland. Motor that hated to rev, mediocre gearbox, and a feeling of a plateau of speed once you got it above 2000RPM. Just overall a meh car compared to its predecessors which actually had some excitement to them (minus the 08 abomination of course).
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Old 08-31-2019, 04:16 PM   #21
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FA24 will be a beast of a power plant if it***8217;s tuned proper by STI.
Gobs of torque down low. Meaty power band all the way up.
I hope the chassis, brakes, steering etc. are good to go.
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Old 08-31-2019, 05:02 PM   #22
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FA24 will be a beast of a power plant if itís tuned proper by STI.
Gobs of torque down low. Meaty power band all the way up.
I hope the chassis, brakes, steering etc. are good to go.
This next batch of engines sound promising. An FA20 with revisions and strengthening could be really good. On 91 and tighter regs tho, I'm a little wary.
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Old 08-31-2019, 05:53 PM   #23
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Yeap. The FA20 runs like trash on less than perfect quality gas. This is a major obstacle they need to overcome.
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Old 09-01-2019, 08:37 PM   #24
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right now the torque figures are at 295 ft lbs. any chance the new sti gets 325 ft lbs of torque. 315-320hp is not necessarily a bad thing if the torque numbers are vastly improved. and if it is the FA24, there will be room to add more power to it. it wont be so high strung, so there will be room to tune them for more power. let's not forget the engine is capable of pulling 8,000lbs, and this one wont be mated to a cvt.
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Old 09-01-2019, 09:07 PM   #25
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right now the torque figures are at 295 ft lbs. any chance the new sti gets 325 ft lbs of torque. 315-320hp is not necessarily a bad thing if the torque numbers are vastly improved. and if it is the FA24, there will be room to add more power to it. it wont be so high strung, so there will be room to tune them for more power. let's not forget the engine is capable of pulling 8,000lbs, and this one wont be mated to a cvt.
The FA24 was designed for torque, not horsepower. It is great for heavy SUV applications, not so much for performance cars. While torque sells cars, hp wins races. FA24 was literally designed for the Ascent and its towing capabilities. I am not sure if it will be a good fit for something like the STI.
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