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10-24-2011, 09:44 AM | #26 |
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Is there some system of rotation to decide what saleman approaches a customer?
Does it mess up rotation or piss you off if you approach me and I tell you I'm "just looking"? Do you then go to the back of the line? Is it possible to negotiate a better price if I pay cash or am pre-approved for credit vs applying for credit?
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10-24-2011, 10:11 AM | #27 |
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what dealership should i go to in the MD/VA/DC area to find a new 2011 STI? are the prices on the 2011 or (previous year models) much lower to try and make room for the 2012s?
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10-24-2011, 10:40 AM | #28 | |
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There is a dude here in MAIC who is selling his 2011 STI (pearl white) sedan for $29,995. It's got 20k miles on it and he's planning to trade it in soon. He's selling it for basically what he'll get for trade in....not a bad deal IMO. |
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10-24-2011, 10:46 AM | #29 | |
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10-24-2011, 10:53 AM | #30 |
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I’ve got one. My new Jeep continuously Leaks, fourth attempt to fix since 8th September. What are my chances of Chrysler/Dealership exchanging or buying back my lemon? Am I more likely to get a replacement or do I have an even chance of getting out of this POS and back into a Subaru? Be honest please.
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10-24-2011, 11:00 AM | #31 | |||
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10-24-2011, 11:02 AM | #32 | |
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10-24-2011, 11:18 AM | #33 |
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Amen Brother! This should be a sticky! I agree whole heartedly with everything you have said. Keep it coming guys! I'll chime in from time to time.
Your best bet is to negotiate an order at this point. There are very few STi's left in VA. We've got a 4 Door Base STi in Dark Gray. |
10-24-2011, 12:09 PM | #34 | |
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10-24-2011, 12:16 PM | #35 |
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this is a great thread. here is an article from a reporter who worked as a salesman for a while to get some of the inside information. I found it years ago, but it was updated again in 2009:
http://www.edmunds.com/car-buying/co...-for-2009.html |
10-24-2011, 12:30 PM | #36 |
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What are typically the last months to buy the previous year model's before they are gone. I'm sure each make and model is different but what month sticks out to you on average?
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10-24-2011, 12:34 PM | #37 | |
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Just focus on discount and the color you want. Stop being obsessed with saving an extra $500 because it was a "closeout" or the like. I'm going to do what ever I can to make a deal any month, at any time of the month. 1/3 of my income comes from unit and CSI bonuses, not on the individual cars. It makes no difference if you come in on the 1st or the 31st, it's all just another chip on the board. That chip could be worth well into 4 figures. So shop when ever. --Andy |
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10-24-2011, 12:36 PM | #38 | |
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10-24-2011, 12:42 PM | #39 |
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10-24-2011, 12:47 PM | #40 | |
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10-24-2011, 12:58 PM | #41 |
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This is great information thanks! So lets say you work for a company that qualifies you for a supplier discount of some sort. I have purchased several vehicles this way.
Is this something the dealer and salespersons dislike? Why is the dealer sometimes able to get you a "better" price than the dealer invoice of the discount? Is there more than one invoice? Like the invoice you get to see, and the "real" invoice you dont? |
10-24-2011, 12:58 PM | #42 |
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if you're going to be picky enough with a new car that you will have to order it through a dealership, what position do you have to negotiate a lower price? do you have to go earlier in the model year to get good deals on ordered cars? is it all the same since you can still shop around to other dealers? I plan on having to order my next car in order to get what I want on it, but I don't want to pay MSRP just to get the color I want with almost no options. When ordering a new car, I'd assume you'd negotiate out the whole price ahead of time, but is the dealership just going out on a limb that you'll actually buy what they order for you, or do they hold you to some deposit before ordering?
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10-24-2011, 01:01 PM | #43 | |
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if you go to annapolis subaru ask for frank white. you wont regret it. |
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10-24-2011, 01:10 PM | #44 | |
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It's just supply and demand right now. On an order a dealer might go lower than a stock unit because it is a sale they never had. The dealer will generally take a small good faith deposit that you are going to buy the car when it arrives. |
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10-24-2011, 01:13 PM | #45 |
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10-24-2011, 01:14 PM | #46 | |
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I bought mine in September of 2009 and they were running the 0% on the 2009's while you had to pay 3% or 4% for the 2010. I opted for the 2009. There does come a point (at least I felt this way) that the dealership wants to get rid of the older models and make room for the newer models. I'm sure they arn't going to take a loss on the car, but I think they are more likely to work on the price. At least I got the impression they wouldn't really move on the price for the 2010's that were being shipped. Of course, you'd only want to do this if saving a few hundred bucks is worth it for you. |
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10-24-2011, 01:20 PM | #47 |
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Paying cash is fine. I would say a majority of my customers pay cash. I think what Andy is trying to say is that when you try and use it as a negotiation tactic it does nothing for you. It makes you look foolish.
Cash is the same as credit is the same as financing is the same as a wheelbarrow full of nickels. All money is electronic now. So the transferral of funds is immediate. |
10-24-2011, 01:22 PM | #48 | |
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Get the car that you want, instead of waiting for something you don't. |
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10-24-2011, 01:53 PM | #49 | |||
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To your second point, there are incentives and rebates that manufacturers offer to bring the price down. Some of these are shown to the customer, some are not. This is something else you will just have to accept as not knowing about. Also, the dealer gets volume incentives so that if they sell X number of cars in a quarter the cost of each car gets reduced by an amount, retroactive and including cars already sold. That's now you see cars sold under invoice. Also, some manufacturers pad the invoice price, some don't. Mine don't. Quote:
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10-24-2011, 02:34 PM | #50 |
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So the buying service thing I understand. But what about manufacturer partner discounts? I work for a supplier that lets me qualify for discounts. It just seems like the dealer is sore about selling a desirable vehicle that could have made more on a regular sale.
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