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Old 08-02-2004, 02:15 PM   #1
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Default Baer GT front brakes now available for WRX

As title says.

http://www.baer.com/Products/BrakeSy...ntSystems.aspx
<scroll to GT Brakes>

$949. including everything (rotors, pads, cailpers, all mounting material)

2 piece rotors are available for an extra $1800


As it comes time to replace my front brakes, i'm considering this system. Baer seems to be a pretty respected name though i think this is its first venture into the subaru market.

Thoughts?
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:19 PM   #2
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Sti 4-pot setup for less?

I really don't know. I'd certainly consider how you use your car (if this sort of upgrade is required), and then I'd probably wait to see some test data comparing this to other systems currently on the market (including the Sti setup).

I wouldn't want to be the first to have it, but yes Baer has a really good reputation.

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Old 08-02-2004, 02:24 PM   #3
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sti 4 pots with everything included in the GT setup will be around $800. so for an extra $150 you are going with a larger 13.1 inch system.

On that note if someone is selling a 4 pot setup let me know.

I'm looking to upgrade because i'm not happy with the wrx's brakes. i have stainless lines and carbotech bobcat pads since 2k miles. (now a 45k). This was an improvement over the stock setup. but i want something with some more grip.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:36 PM   #4
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Will your rims clear the larger Baer Rotor and caliper location? Something to think about.

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Old 08-02-2004, 02:41 PM   #5
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I personally like stoptech more than baer, but maybe that's just me.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:45 PM   #6
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paul - they claim the gt system will clear just about any 17 inch wheel. i would get a templete before ordering however.

mumbles - i like stoptech too. proven results on subarus. but i don't like that they are $700 more than the baer kit. I don't think my driving warrents that kind of brake kit. my thinking was more along the lines of; well if i'm spending $800 for subaru 4 pots, why not spend and extra $150 for the larger baer kit.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:51 PM   #7
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yeah i hear ya that is alot.
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Old 08-02-2004, 09:17 PM   #8
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sti 4 pots with everything included in the GT setup will be around $800. so for an extra $150 you are going with a larger 13.1 inch system.
Except if your rotors are already fine, in which case you use them and the price separation grows... and TWR sells OEM replacement 2-piece rotors for $350/pair.

*shrug*

Always glad to see more reasonable brake options for our cars.
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Old 08-02-2004, 10:55 PM   #9
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I think Daddy's Little Big brake kit is the best option. Run stock size rotors in the winter and 330mm 2 piece rotors in the summer. http://www.daddysscp.com/mdspbbk.html
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Old 08-03-2004, 11:16 PM   #10
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I thought it was dicussed on the brake forum a while ago that the Baer kit will not fit wheels smaller than 18" Diameter.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...highlight=baer

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Old 08-04-2004, 10:35 AM   #11
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The Baer rep i talked to said they they will fit under most 17s.

The Daddy's kit is nice. but its still expensive.
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Old 08-04-2004, 03:52 PM   #12
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The Baer rep i talked to said they they will fit under most 17s.

The Daddy's kit is nice. but its still expensive.

All I have to say to that is proceed with care, because this is the quote from Luke who works for Tirerack:

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well, here is some interesting info for those of you who are upgrading to bigger brakes:

the problem with BBK's is that the caliper extends towards the outsize of the car creating interference with the wheels. The Baer kit does not have this issue ...... their caliper extends outward from the middle up ..... this means that very few if any 17" wheels will clear the caliper radially. We check every 17" WRX fitment we have and not 1 of them will clear the PBR caliper used by BAER .... so, it's 18" wheels for the 330mm Baer Claw BBK


the specs:
caliper extension: .353"
radial extension: 7.858"
minimum wheel ID: 15.9"
We need to get the templates and compare to different wheels.
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Old 08-04-2004, 04:05 PM   #13
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We have final test fitting of our kit being installed this Sunday and have test templates for the OEM size rotor and 330mm rotors. The DynoPro is a radial mount caliper which gives better clearance than most others. Our test fitting is with the OEM wheel(with 294mm rotors) and Enkei RPM2's 17X7(for the 330mm rotors) which are not know for there abundant clearance. Our 330mm template showed gobs of room. As soon as the 330mm rotors are cut we'll have final test fitting for them as well, but I agree 100% that anyone considering a BBK should be supplied with a fitting template prior to purchase, and we have these available.

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Old 08-04-2004, 05:34 PM   #14
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hrm.. interesting find worwrx.

i just got off the phone with a tech from baer and he is wondering how that information is even available with one about 10 sets of these sold to the public so far.. the information may have been from some prototype brakes but the new GT design is a 2 pot caliper with the pistons on the inside. he said he would be floored if there was any 17inch wheel that didn't have enough room for these brakes.

He is e-mailing me a template; i will post as soon as i receive it.


rich: that is a great idea with that kit btw.
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:46 PM   #15
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hrm.. interesting find worwrx.

He is e-mailing me a template; i will post as soon as i receive it.

I have been very interested on the Baer kit for about a year now, I am looking forward to you posting the template.

Baer has multiple downloadable templates on their site, but not this one...they have only sold ten of these, if they post the templates, maybe they would sell more.

lucid matrix - Great Job on doing the leg work for the rest of us, thanks
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Old 08-05-2004, 10:29 AM   #16
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Your welcome. I'm just as interested as everyone else.

we still can't attach files here eh?

who can host a 126k .pdf file?
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Old 08-06-2004, 05:58 PM   #17
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lucidmatrix, email the file to me and I will host it...

[email protected]

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Old 08-06-2004, 06:15 PM   #18
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e-mailed. thanks!
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BAER template from lucidmatrix:

http://www.speedabsolute.com/images/NASIOC/C082H.pdf

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Old 09-10-2004, 09:24 PM   #20
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Default Good chance that Baer brakes fit on 17 inch wheels

Depending on your 17 inch wheel the Baer brake kit could work. You'll need to print out their template and make sure that it's scaled accurately when you print it. The template has a ruler on it. You'll want to make sure the each inch on template actually measures an inch. Then mount the template to a cardboard to give it some stiffness and then cut along the dotted line.

I printed out the Baer brake template and pulled off one my 17 inch Enkei RPF1s. There's a tenth of an inch clearance. Baer recommends at least one tenth of inch clearance. Also, it looks the wheel spacers would be required as well. Guy I spoke with at Baer commented that some of the people there have run with even less clearance. Still it's risky. I'm going to wait for someone else on the forum to purchase them and provide a review before I make the leap.

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