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Old 04-25-2019, 05:03 AM   #901
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I think this may have already been asked, but do some of you live in areas where the dealers do not have a good selection? Is that why you ordered the cars?
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Old 04-25-2019, 09:14 AM   #902
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I think this may have already been asked, but do some of you live in areas where the dealers do not have a good selection? Is that why you ordered the cars?
Ordering lets you get exactly what you want instead of hoping your exact configuration is on the dealer's lot (and giving them more leverage over you on pricing too), and you can be assured that no one has gone on a joy ride test drive in it before.
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Old 04-25-2019, 10:05 AM   #903
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I think this may have already been asked, but do some of you live in areas where the dealers do not have a good selection? Is that why you ordered the cars?
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Ordering lets you get exactly what you want instead of hoping your exact configuration is on the dealer's lot (and giving them more leverage over you on pricing too), and you can be assured that no one has gone on a joy ride test drive in it before.
Yes! SirBrass' answer is why I order, specifically the bold red.
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Old 04-25-2019, 11:23 AM   #904
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For those of you that ordered, were you able to get a deal on the purchase price or did you pay MSRP?

The reason that I purchased mine from the lot was because:
  1. It was the color that I wanted
  2. It had all of the features that I wanted (and some that are nice, but I wouldn't have ordered)
  3. It only had 8 miles on the odometer. Yes, maybe 1 or 2 people went on a short test drive before me, but I understand why you want to be the first person to drive it.
  4. Since the dealer had a high inventory and wanted it off the lot, I was able to get it for $4,000 under MSRP ($1,250 under invoice) with Subaru's 1.9% financing.
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Old 04-25-2019, 11:38 AM   #905
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For those of you that ordered, were you able to get a deal on the purchase price or did you pay MSRP?

The reason that I purchased mine from the lot was because:
  1. It was the color that I wanted
  2. It had all of the features that I wanted (and some that are nice, but I wouldn't have ordered)
  3. It only had 8 miles on the odometer. Yes, maybe 1 or 2 people went on a short test drive before me, but I understand why you want to be the first person to drive it.
  4. Since the dealer had a high inventory and wanted it off the lot, I was able to get it for $4,000 under MSRP ($1,250 under invoice) with Subaru's 1.9% financing.

I got the same deal I would have gotten from buying off the lot, but it was still well below MSRP. I got the 3.49% back when that was the incentive Subaru was giving to new WRX purchases (it dropped to 1.9% the next month ).

I got mine for essentially $3k off MSRP: 19 Limited for $30034 before tax and cash incentive (we got the military discount of $500, putting taxable amount down to $29534). Put $500 down to secure the order as well. So, it gave us a month and a half to come up with even more of the downpayment (during which time we were finally able to sell my wife's 2010 Malibu for $2800 cash), so we were able to put a hefty down onto the car, and secure financing.

Also, by ordering, it minimized our time at the dealership. We came in with approved financing (and made sure the dealership had the paperwork well beforehand anyway, which was automatic since we used Subaru Motors Finance so the bank knew which dealership we were buying from), proof of insurance (when I was informed of the VIN, I called the insurance and told them when I would take possession of the vehicle so they'd know when the date of coverage start would be). All that was essentially, with all the phone calls and internet forms and bit of back and forth, about 3-4 hours worth of time spread out over a few days, but would have all been done at once if I'd purchased from the lot. So that would've been 3-4 hours of sitting at the dealership that I didn't have to do.

So, with financing approved, down payment check in hand, proof of insurance already sent over, all we had to do was hand over the goods, see the printed out purchase contract, review terms and options, sign, and take possession. All on the date we chose.

We were in and out in under an hour.

Ordering the car made the entire process absolutely stress-free and actually downright pleasant. I've never enjoyed the process of buying a car before, even when it was for a car I really wanted and really enjoyed having. The buying process was always stressful and irritating for me. But until my 19 WRX, I'd always just walked into a dealership and bought. Here, I called the dealership and ordered the vehicle, and most if not all of the communication was by phone or email. Spreading it out over the time spent waiting for the vehicle to arrive in the US reduced the stress of it to zero, as I had time to put together the money to put down, and getting the low price straight up made nixed the irritation as well. We weren't given a hard sell on additional service plans either, which was pleasant too.

Ordering, at least for me, was definitely the way to go.
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:17 PM   #906
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For those of you that ordered, were you able to get a deal on the purchase price or did you pay MSRP?

The reason that I purchased mine from the lot was because:
  1. It was the color that I wanted
  2. It had all of the features that I wanted (and some that are nice, but I wouldn't have ordered)
  3. It only had 8 miles on the odometer. Yes, maybe 1 or 2 people went on a short test drive before me, but I understand why you want to be the first person to drive it.
  4. Since the dealer had a high inventory and wanted it off the lot, I was able to get it for $4,000 under MSRP ($1,250 under invoice) with Subaru's 1.9% financing.
I negotiated a price before order. It was my current dealer's process. My previous dealer was a little easier and allowed to negotiate when the car arrived.
I got what I feel is a great deal. Paid well below MSRP and I got the trim level, color, and options I wanted.
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Old 04-25-2019, 12:24 PM   #907
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That's great! In that case, I probably would have ordered too. I just assumed that they wouldn't give a comparable discount being that they had to order the car for you rather than you taking inventory that they already had. The local Subaru dealership near me has 12 WRXs on the lot so they're motivated to make a deal.

I would have liked to order it to ensure that I was the first person to drive the car and stop them from removing the paint protection film or drilling holes in the front bumper for the license plate..

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Old 04-25-2019, 12:28 PM   #908
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That's great! In that case, I probably would have ordered too. I just assumed that they wouldn't give a comparable discount being that they had to order the car for you rather than you taking inventory that they already had. The local Subaru dealership near me has 12 WRXs on the lot so their motivated to make a deal.

I would have like to ordered to ensure that I was the first person to drive the car and I would have made sure that they didn't remove the paint protection film or drill holes in the front bumper for the license plate..
Ordering doesn't count against their inventory allotment, so they're gaining additional sales through ordering, not losing a potentially higher sale price lot sale, so they could be more willing to go lower on an order than on a lot sale. Because with an order purchase, it doesn't count against their allotment and adds to their sale numbers.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:21 PM   #909
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What has everyone done when trading in a vehicle? Does the dealer take into account mileage and slight depreciation when ordering? your car is worth $17,500 now, with another 1000 miles and in 2 months we should be able to offer you $17200 for trade in..?

I'm focused on a good trade in number for my wrx and aggressive price on the 2019 sti since its late into the year. Realizing it may be more ideal to hunt down one already on someone's lot and make them bend over to get the sale.
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Old 04-25-2019, 01:57 PM   #910
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For my last Subaru orders I've sold privatly and happen to get lucky and sell the week my cars came in.
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Old 04-25-2019, 04:04 PM   #911
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I'm focused on a good trade in number for my wrx and aggressive price on the 2019 sti since its late into the year. Realizing it may be more ideal to hunt down one already on someone's lot and make them bend over to get the sale.
Be sure to get a Carmax offer on your trade-in. Also call Subaru of America (1-800-782-2783) to get your $500 loyalty coupon if you haven't already.

I negotiated the price of my '19 STI with the dealer prior to going into the dealership or informing them that I had a trade-in. They gave me a great deal at below invoice. However, they gave me such a good deal on the STI that they refused to match the Carmax offer for my WRX. I showed them the offer and they said "you should sell your car to Carmax, we can't match that with the deal that we're giving you".

They gave me a story about how they would need to replace my brake pads and tires so that they could sell my car as CPO.. and that it would cost them $2800 to replace. FWIW, the dealership offered my exact payoff amount which was $3,000 less than Carmax offered me. It was sad because their offer was below KBB's "rough" trade-in value despite my car being low mileage and in good enough condition for them to sell it CPO. Carmax offered me exactly what I expected based on KBB's trade-in value of "good" to "very good" condition.

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Old 04-26-2019, 05:14 PM   #912
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Placed an order for a 2019 STI a little while ago. This is my first WRX/STI, even though I've wanted one ever since they've been in North America. Just always ended up getting something else when it came time for me to buy a car (2006 Evo IX MR; 2015 Forester XT; 2018 BRZ). Finally decided to get what I've always wanted.

Got a Lapis Blue Pearl base STI, with the Recaro seat/pushbutton start package, and the STI short throw shifter as the only options. My local dealer price matched the best offer I got (around $700 below invoice), and I also have a $500 Owner Loyalty coupon from Subaru, since this will be our 9th Subie.

Only issue I've had, and it's the same one I've had with my last 2 Subarus which I've done factory orders on, is I never receive any confirmation emails or updates from Subaru. The first time it was because the dealer had mistyped my email, but the second time, and on this current order, my email address is correct. I've also contacted Subaru customer support, and the email they have is correct as well. So somewhere in Subaru's system, something is off. The rep I spoke with at customer support is opening up a ticket and supposedly they'll investigate and get back to me. Not really a huge issue, except that I have to either call the dealership or customer support to get updates on the order status, and depending on who you get in customer support they can be rather unpleasant about having to get the info for you.

Overall, looking forward to getting the car, and will hopefully have a few good months of prime driving weather before I have to think about getting it set-up for the winter (new wheels and winter tires).
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Old 04-29-2019, 09:55 AM   #913
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Placed an order for a 2019 STI a little while ago. This is my first WRX/STI, even though I've wanted one ever since they've been in North America. Just always ended up getting something else when it came time for me to buy a car (2006 Evo IX MR; 2015 Forester XT; 2018 BRZ). Finally decided to get what I've always wanted.

Got a Lapis Blue Pearl base STI, with the Recaro seat/pushbutton start package, and the STI short throw shifter as the only options. My local dealer price matched the best offer I got (around $700 below invoice), and I also have a $500 Owner Loyalty coupon from Subaru, since this will be our 9th Subie.

Only issue I've had, and it's the same one I've had with my last 2 Subarus which I've done factory orders on, is I never receive any confirmation emails or updates from Subaru. The first time it was because the dealer had mistyped my email, but the second time, and on this current order, my email address is correct. I've also contacted Subaru customer support, and the email they have is correct as well. So somewhere in Subaru's system, something is off. The rep I spoke with at customer support is opening up a ticket and supposedly they'll investigate and get back to me. Not really a huge issue, except that I have to either call the dealership or customer support to get updates on the order status, and depending on who you get in customer support they can be rather unpleasant about having to get the info for you.

Overall, looking forward to getting the car, and will hopefully have a few good months of prime driving weather before I have to think about getting it set-up for the winter (new wheels and winter tires).
I never got any updates from Subaru about where my WRX was while in transit. I had to get info from the dealership. Until the car nears US shores and gets a VIN assigned, you're not going to be able to find out its location and status.

I'd simply be asking your dealership salesman or the sales manager for info. They will have access to the same tracking as SoA. They won't know a reasonably accurate ETA till it nears shore, but they'll probably be more willing to let you know sooner than SoA will.

Good luck with the STI. I went from an STI to a BRZ back in 2013 and had zero regrets, but that was when the STI didn't handle nearly as well as it does now, and the BRZ was lightyears ahead of the WRX/STI in that department. Since 2015, though, handling in the WRX/STI has massively improved thanks to the lessons learned with the BRZ.

Get 18" wheels that are lighter than stock 18s (your STI will come with 19s), 22mm adjustable rear sway, rear sway mount braces, front and rear endlinks, and front sway bushings. That'll eliminate a good deal of the understeer and neutralize the steering so it won't push so much. And when it's not slick out (rain or snow on pavement), set your DCCD to auto minus. That'll give you a much more BRZ-like RWD feel to the car, but with the AWD benefits and the STI's oomph. AND, none of that will affect your drive or powertrain warranty, and due to the much lighter wheels, you'll have definite increased power performance too.
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I never got any updates from Subaru about where my WRX was while in transit. I had to get info from the dealership. Until the car nears US shores and gets a VIN assigned, you're not going to be able to find out its location and status.



I'd simply be asking your dealership salesman or the sales manager for info. They will have access to the same tracking as SoA. They won't know a reasonably accurate ETA till it nears shore, but they'll probably be more willing to let you know sooner than SoA will.



Good luck with the STI. I went from an STI to a BRZ back in 2013 and had zero regrets, but that was when the STI didn't handle nearly as well as it does now, and the BRZ was lightyears ahead of the WRX/STI in that department. Since 2015, though, handling in the WRX/STI has massively improved thanks to the lessons learned with the BRZ.



Get 18" wheels that are lighter than stock 18s (your STI will come with 19s), 22mm adjustable rear sway, rear sway mount braces, front and rear endlinks, and front sway bushings. That'll eliminate a good deal of the understeer and neutralize the steering so it won't push so much. And when it's not slick out (rain or snow on pavement), set your DCCD to auto minus. That'll give you a much more BRZ-like RWD feel to the car, but with the AWD benefits and the STI's oomph. AND, none of that will affect your drive or powertrain warranty, and due to the much lighter wheels, you'll have definite increased power performance too.


Yeah, I heard back from Subaru later that day and they said they don't send out any updates or anything via email. Weird, as when I ordered my BRZ, I asked what to expect and was told the opposite. Maybe it's a dealer specific thing, but my local dealer who I ordered from also seemed to think I should have gotten at least some sort of confirmation email.

Not a big deal, I'll just call either the dealership or Subaru customer service to get updates, like I've done for our past 2 orders. Car isn't expected until June (I'm assuming late June), so I'll start calling around the beginning of that month.
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Yeah, I heard back from Subaru later that day and they said they don't send out any updates or anything via email. Weird, as when I ordered my BRZ, I asked what to expect and was told the opposite. Maybe it's a dealer specific thing, but my local dealer who I ordered from also seemed to think I should have gotten at least some sort of confirmation email.

Not a big deal, I'll just call either the dealership or Subaru customer service to get updates, like I've done for our past 2 orders. Car isn't expected until June (I'm assuming late June), so I'll start calling around the beginning of that month.
Pretty sure it varies depending on what region you live in. There are some good threads about what to expect on some of the Outback and Forester forums, but none of that really applied to me. I believe, I got an email confirmation when I selected charity for the Love Event, and then I don't remember getting anything until after picking up my wrx, as a thank you email
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when did you order thinking you would expect late june .. I ordered on the 4th of april and they said late june for me.. Subaru of America
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when did you order thinking you would expect late june .. I ordered on the 4th of april and they said late june for me.. Subaru of America
I just read an article the other day where Subaru of America said that at present they're having trouble getting sufficient inventory from Japan. Seems some of the minor scandals there have slowed production some, so production isn't keeping up with demand. Thus, it's taking longer to get Subaru models that are only made in Japan across the sea to US shores after the order for the automobile is put into the system.

It took less than a month and a half between when I ordered my 19 WRX (late September) and when I picked it up from the dealership (2nd week of November). But some folks are now waiting 3-4 months for their STIs. Sure, lower production but the STI is a different WRX trim, so production line isn't going to be different, just a different path on that production line (granted that I only have a novice outside observer's knowledge of), so I assume the same is true for WRXs as well.

If you're given an estimate of 2 months, I'd stretch that to 3.5, honestly. Just to avoid disappointment and turn it into pleasant surprise if it arrives sooner.
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I just read an article the other day where Subaru of America said that at present they're having trouble getting sufficient inventory from Japan. Seems some of the minor scandals there have slowed production some, so production isn't keeping up with demand. Thus, it's taking longer to get Subaru models that are only made in Japan across the sea to US shores after the order for the automobile is put into the system.

It took less than a month and a half between when I ordered my 19 WRX (late September) and when I picked it up from the dealership (2nd week of November). But some folks are now waiting 3-4 months for their STIs. Sure, lower production but the STI is a different WRX trim, so production line isn't going to be different, just a different path on that production line (granted that I only have a novice outside observer's knowledge of), so I assume the same is true for WRXs as well.

If you're given an estimate of 2 months, I'd stretch that to 3.5, honestly. Just to avoid disappointment and turn it into pleasant surprise if it arrives sooner.
Interesting, this is in line with my experience thus far. I second the recommendation to increase your anticipated delivery date to avoid disappointment. I placed the order for my STi on January 20th and am expecting a US port date for my car on May 13th (Quonset in RI). Hopefully I will be able to pick it up from the dealer by May 20th. So four months for me (unless there are any more delays).
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when did you order thinking you would expect late june .. I ordered on the 4th of april and they said late june for me.. Subaru of America

This is what I was told by Subaru's customer support line when I called them the day I placed my order on April 26th.

Hadn't been given any date by the dealership, but customer service said it was scheduled for June (nothing more exact than that).


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I just read an article the other day where Subaru of America said that at present they're having trouble getting sufficient inventory from Japan. Seems some of the minor scandals there have slowed production some, so production isn't keeping up with demand. Thus, it's taking longer to get Subaru models that are only made in Japan across the sea to US shores after the order for the automobile is put into the system.

It took less than a month and a half between when I ordered my 19 WRX (late September) and when I picked it up from the dealership (2nd week of November). But some folks are now waiting 3-4 months for their STIs. Sure, lower production but the STI is a different WRX trim, so production line isn't going to be different, just a different path on that production line (granted that I only have a novice outside observer's knowledge of), so I assume the same is true for WRXs as well.

If you're given an estimate of 2 months, I'd stretch that to 3.5, honestly. Just to avoid disappointment and turn it into pleasant surprise if it arrives sooner.

Yeah, I think I read something similar. Really hope it doesn't go much longer than the estimate I was given, as good driving weather doesn't last forever here, and for all intents and purposes this is pretty close to just being a fun car. I would have ordered earlier in the year, but was planning on building onto our existing garage, and wanted to make sure that all got squared away before ordering (construction work should start in the next week or two).
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Car is *supposed* to be in tomorrow, expecting to pick it up next Friday.
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So I found a base brand new WRB STI at my local dealer for $32,700.

I have been cross shopping the RS and Type R with the closest contenders being a used RS with 10k miles for $33k and a used Type R with 7k miles for $34k.

Is it a sign to go STI?
Anyone drive all 3?
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So I found a base brand new WRB STI at my local dealer for $32,700.

I have been cross shopping the RS and Type R with the closest contenders being a used RS with 10k miles for $33k and a used Type R with 7k miles for $34k.

Is it a sign to go STI?
Anyone drive all 3?
That sounds really cheap. Is it a car that has a bunch of test miles?
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:56 AM   #923
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Does anyone know when orders for the 19 stop and orders for the 20 will start?
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Does anyone know when orders for the 19 stop and orders for the 20 will start?
Probably pretty soon...
Last week I offered $4K below MSRP on '19 STI limited and they took it without a counter offer (Seattle). Must be trying to get ready for them.
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Finally able to pick up the car, after 13 weeks. https://imgur.com/IkB3Dpt
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