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Old 12-03-2019, 07:47 AM   #1
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Black Friday shopping lines weren’t the only queues frustrating people this past weekend. A number of Tesla drivers took to social media to vent about extremely crowded Supercharger stations that turned a promised fast stop into an hours-long slog to recharge during one of the year's busiest travel times. With Model 3 mass production in full swing, there are now well over 400,000 Teslas on American roads, and it appears that growth is exposing the Supercharger network's pain points in high-traffic times like this past weekend.

One Facebook clip shows a line measuring roughly a quarter mile in length, consisting of 50-odd Teslas waiting at a Supercharger in Kettleman City, California, just off Interstate 5. To be fair, the station's popularity is compounded by its location about halfway between Los Angeles and San Francisco, but even its 40 stalls aren't enough to accommodate the increased demand, especially when all that simultaneous recharging lowers the speed for everyone. The video's caption—"When you regret your Tesla"—has got to ring true for some of these drivers. Or maybe a modified version: When you regret bringing your Tesla.

When you regret your Tesla.#tesla Kettleman City, CA I-5
Posted by Shanon Neditch Stellini on Saturday, November 30, 2019
So there are a few people at the big 40-stall Tesla Supercharger in Kettleman City. 😕 pic.twitter.com/

— Alyssa (@lyssabits) December 1, 2019
Another video shared to YouTube detailed a similar situation on Thanksgiving Day around 5 p.m. in San Luis Obispo, California. Although it's a bit milder, with about 15 Teslas waiting to charge, it still led to an hours-long wait for some drivers.
Tesla owners in California waited in long lines to charge their electric vehicles over the holiday weekend.

Footage out of Kettleman City, the location of one of the largest supercharging sites boasting up to 40 chargers, shows drivers queued up back-to-back in a line about a half mile long.

Testy drivers attempting to juice up after Black Friday sounded off on social media, claiming the wait time was anywhere from thirty minutes to well over an hour.
@Tesla biggest supercharger at Kettleman city, Ca, around 40 chargers but the line is 30 min. Long. Almost every supercharger from LA to SFO is backlogged. Tesla super charging network has not kept up. Spent more time charging than driving. No more long trips on Tesla. pic.twitter.com/hTQKNgikaC

— Shawn Nag (@shawn_nag) December 1, 2019
@Tesla I think you can do better with charging situation. This is at Kettleman location. Been sitting here in line for 40 mins and looks like half way there. pic.twitter.com/

— Sunny Walia (@crazytoon) December 1, 2019
Another Tesla owner claimed he ran into long lines at a charging station in Buellton.

Ran into same at Buellton and SLO SCs which are "edge" chargers due to the long distance between next stops. Not the worst, but the software could certainly do a better job warning about expected charging delays. pic.twitter.com/79BMuM0okC

— T. Rust (@nibblonian) December 2, 2019
“Not the worst, but the software could certainly do a better job warning about expected charging delays,” one driver criticized, adding that a mobile supercharger was on site, but not being utilized.
Was bittersweet to see this show up being prepped for the next day — so no help to us. pic.twitter.com/Cg8xCPuw03

— T. Rust (@nibblonian) December 2, 2019
The same scene played out at a charging station in San Luis Obispo, where a line of about 20 cars waited to charge, while a mobile supercharging station reportedly stood idly by.

Update on the Tesla supercharger at the Madonna Inn. The mobile supercharger was there but did not appear to be charging any vehicles. There were about 20 cars waiting to charge. $tsla $tslaq pic.twitter.com/FCMoTEAIuu
— Chris (@ChrisLeeterman) December 1, 2019
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:01 AM   #3
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:55 AM   #4
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:29 AM   #5
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Like Uber, Tesla could (should) charge more during peak hours of demand. Other smaller stations with one or two chargers can follow, making that infrastructure investment profitable.
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Old 12-03-2019, 09:47 AM   #6
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I thought the app in the car was to direct them to different stations in the area that are less populated to distribute the load/wait times?

Their skynet should know there was a queue there and said, "hey, you... go down the road a bit."

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Old 12-03-2019, 11:18 AM   #7
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Few have thought how a single source and how much $ it will cost to upgrade or rebuild and what ENRON has planned ? 3 in line to charge ? I can see the suits fist fighting on side of road . Locally in my backwards low tax state I regularity see them trimming trees away from power lines in fall to prevent arc overs and ice dropping limbs on power lines. I wonder why the highest tax state of CA could not or would not also do this or simply bury lines underground to prevent wind arcs and fires?

have you seen this lineup video waiting to charge ? #tesla https://twitter.com/WappyGilmore/sta...162949122?s=20

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Old 12-03-2019, 11:53 AM   #8
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Dino fuel for the win. No one has ever had to wait for gas/diesel in line and there never has or will be shortages.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:11 PM   #9
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Dino fuel for the win. No one has ever had to wait for gas/diesel in line and there never has or will be shortages.
Uh, gas was rationed in 1942 and there was also a supply glut during the 1970’s which lead to rationing and damn long wait times.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:25 PM   #10
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I'm going to assume that was sarcasm. Did anyone check the gas lines at costco over thanksgiving?

Kettleman has 40 chargers, which if you assume that each car needs 40 minutes to charge (which seems high?), then a car should cycle out every minute on average. That it was still backed up mainly shows just how many Tesla's are out there now.

It's also halfway between LA and San Francisco, so most any tesla going between the two will probably need to stop there.
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:29 PM   #11
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I've said it many times, not a road trip vehicle. DD for work, daily things. Road trips, take a gas car. Interesting the entitlement among these owners. I ran a Leaf as my only car for 3 years, with a pathetic 84 mile range, and never had an issue because if I needed to road trip, I rented a gas vehicle. With all the savings on the fuel and maintenance it easily paid for it. But this is also why I just avoid traveling on or around traditional holidays in general.
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I'm going to assume that was sarcasm. Did anyone check the gas lines at costco over thanksgiving?

Kettleman has 40 chargers, which if you assume that each car needs 40 minutes to charge (which seems high?), then a car should cycle out every minute on average. That it was still backed up mainly shows just how many Tesla's are out there now.

It's also halfway between LA and San Francisco, so most any tesla going between the two will probably need to stop there.
Typically at the Superchargers, it's 40 minutes to get to 80% and 75 minutes to 100%. I wonder how many of them were charging to 100%.

Also, when there are 40 vehicles hooked up, is there a reduction in the charging rate due to capacity issues? Can someone chime in on that?

I know there is a higher V3 supercharger that cuts charging time even more but not sure if all Teslas are capable of those charging rates.
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Shouldn't they be happy that they are saving the planet?
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I have always wondered. To those who own an Electric car of any make. How long does it take the heater to work in the winter? If it is electric, I would wager it would be faster than ICE powered cars as they usually need the water from the engine to heat up first. conversely, how long does it take to get the AC to blow really cold air. Without a physical compressor, I would think they would use inductive cooling like a wine fridge, but those are not typically very powerful.

Would love to know as I am curious.
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So dumb. Those people should know holiday and travel times are ridiculous and this was easily predictable. How many of them had to show up to Turd day to show off their Tesla? You could have rented a car, flown, or just not gone. I marvel at the herd yet again. Idiocracy is upon us.
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So dumb. Those people should know holiday and travel times are ridiculous and this was easily predictable. How many of them had to show up to Turd day to show off their Tesla? You could have rented a car, flown, or just not gone. I marvel at the herd yet again. Idiocracy is upon us.
You’re giving humans too much credit. I’d venture most would not have thought to rent a car for travel.
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IN there defense, renting a car sucks.
But I will join in on mocking the virtue signalling snowflakes.
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has no one produced a diesel generator that you can tow behind your electric car to extend its range, yet?

just call it eco-something and you can continue to pretend you're without Climate Sin
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has no one produced a diesel generator that you can tow behind your electric car to extend its range, yet?

just call it eco-something and you can continue to pretend you're without Climate Sin

Brilliant! Range anxiety solved!
Keshav, you really should follow up on this, you could be a very rich man!
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Dino fuel for the win. No one has ever had to wait for gas/diesel in line and there never has or will be shortages.
Nope. Never happened.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/florida...ate-1504733636

fake news.
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I have always wondered. To those who own an Electric car of any make. How long does it take the heater to work in the winter? If it is electric, I would wager it would be faster than ICE powered cars as they usually need the water from the engine to heat up first. conversely, how long does it take to get the AC to blow really cold air. Without a physical compressor, I would think they would use inductive cooling like a wine fridge, but those are not typically very powerful.

Would love to know as I am curious.
If you're home, you can use the house current to pre-warm your car.

I thought the better EV cars used heat pumps to both cool and warm the car. Electric heater only kicks in on the really cold days.

I don't own an EV.
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THanks, apparently I should do some research on my own time as well.
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Everyone is missing the BIG picture here, prophet ELONS true vision for the future. DO you truly believe that Elon did not see this eventuality in his celestial Orb?!? Come on the guys a FREAKIN GENIUS!!! The superchargers were simply a way to entice the early adopters who had any range anxiety; the cars, battery advances & the chargers were never meant as a true answer to range issues.

Elon has a much longer con going on here, so long that it is nigh impossible for the average plebeian with less than a 220 IQ to even imagine As several people have mentioned electric vehicles are meant for day 2 day driving or for masochists who like to hang out at Outback/the 99/Chilis/TGIF etc.

If you plan to travel beyond the range of your Tesla, Elons master plan for you is to travel by HOLE With no fanfare The Boring CO. has been digging thousands of holes around the world HOLES are the future....

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