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Old 05-05-2003, 09:32 AM   #1
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Default Have a little to spend on suspension bits. . .what first!?

I'm looking to spend about 500 or so on suspension bits, but I'm a n00bie when it comes to suspension. I do the occasional Auto-X, but nothing hardcore.

Here's what I got so far:
17" wheels (Mille Miglia Evo5) with Nitto 450 tires.

that's it.

What I'm thinking of doing:

1) Endlinks

2) Sway Bars

3) Strut Bars

What shuold I get, and what should I stay away from. Any brand particularly awesome for these things? Really crappy?

Any input is appreciated. . .

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Old 05-05-2003, 10:36 AM   #2
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Strut bars won't really do all that much. Instead of those, get something like the Prodrive springs. Between those, a new rear swaybar and endlinks, you should be around $500.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:33 AM   #3
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$500 for endlinks and a sway bar. You must mean both front and rear.

I'd just go with the rear sway bar and endlinks. Cusco or whiteline seem to be the most popular. Get an adjustable one.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:39 AM   #4
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I installed prodrive springs and did an alignment to their specs, car handles much better. Check out June "Motor Trend" where this setup took stock slalom of 61.4 mph to 67.3 mph. As long as your car is low miles, the stock struts work fine.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:54 AM   #5
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Strut bars won't really do all that much.
I agree, especially when talking about the levels of body shell rigidity that can be found on a Subaru WRX!

I am not a fan of lowering springs, for damper reliability and suspension adjustability reasons mainly, but a set of front adjustable top mounts and a rear adjustable anti roll bar sounds like about $500 to me...
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Old 05-05-2003, 01:24 PM   #6
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since you got the wheels and tires, i would do eibach prokits.
and with the dinero you have left, get a 22mm rear swaybar and endlinks for them.

that'll be a totally new car after that.
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:47 PM   #7
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I've heard that you shouldn't do springs withuot doing new stuts/coilovers at the same time, and that it would make the car more "bouncy."

But then again, I was looking into gettin Godmal's STi Pink Springs, and that's what I was told when I was looking. . .

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Old 05-05-2003, 03:29 PM   #8
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for $500 or less the endlinks and a larger rear sway bar would make the most difference. a larger rear sway bar will help reduce understeer, but wont do a whole lot to correct body roll and handling responsiveness.

from what i've heard the prodrive springs are designed to work with the stock struts, so they could be ok, but like i told you before, if you end up paying to have them installed, you might want to wait till you can get struts too. Or you could talk to Karl on a thursday meet, see what he can do for you in the hobby garage at the navy base.

stiffer springs without increased dampening could lead to a bouncy ride, yes.

how about this:
-put $500 in bank
-save up another $500
-use $1000 to get some kind of spring/strut combo (say sti springs and konis or kybs)
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Old 05-05-2003, 03:31 PM   #9
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I've heard that you shouldn't do springs withuot doing new stuts/coilovers at the same time, and that it would make the car more "bouncy."

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True. This applies to stiffer springs as the faster rate will overwork the struts, killing them in a flash, not to mention that they will not have sufficient damping to prevent bounciness.

However, some springs out there do not have a much stiffer spring rate compare to stock, allowing you to use stock struts with not too much to worry about.
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Old 05-05-2003, 06:36 PM   #10
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I am not a wrx owner...yet...looking as we speak...that's why I got a name here.

But I do have suspension knowledge and I can tell you this. Lowering springs and stock struts is a bad combination. Might work for about 5000 miles then you are in bounce hell. If you are having everything installed professionally you will end up having to buy struts later and pay them to install again...waste of money. Do them both at the same time or buy some quality coil overs. Tein. Cusco. Zeal.

If all you have is $500 here is my recommendation. I already priced the stuff myself at a local shop. For around $350 you can get cusco front and rear sway bars. Then get yourself some quality endlinks. Kartboy should work fine. Install the stuff yourself or with a knowledgeable friend. Besides your tires/spring sway bars are your next most important modification.

So if you are feeling the need to spend I'd do that. If you have some patience I would put that in an envelope or savings account. Save up another $7000 and get yourself some quality coil overs....true coil overs. Then you have the two most important suspension/handling mods you can make. The rest can come later.
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:58 AM   #11
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Save up another $7000 and get yourself some quality coil overs....true coil overs.
7 large? is this a typo? most coilovers i've seen are in the 1500-2500 range.
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Old 05-06-2003, 11:42 AM   #12
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If you have a sedan, get endlinks, and call it a day. Spend the rest of the $500 on something sordid.

The WRX sedan has size-matched front and rear sway bars. Why change them? Endlinks increase the effectiveness of a sway bar, which will be noticeable, but it won't alter the car's excellent balance already.

Strut bars are voodoo for street-driven cars, and your budget doesn't allow for coilovers. The pink STi springs are nice, and ride very nicely. If you can get a used set, those, plus endlinks would be a nice package.

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