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Old 07-04-2022, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default Which cars had straight oil coolers.

Doing a Baja turbo engine swap (was factory turbo car that is blown) the EJ25 turbo engine im swapping in is from and unknown car. Had a plastic intake. Same B25 heads. Anyway I have all my intake on wiring done/coolant hoses re worked and engine is complete but I need to know which cars have the straight oil cooler so I can get a header to fit this new block. The 04 Baja header hit the oil filter on my new block since the stock block had a slanted base. I just need to know which years had the straight cooler.

Can't swap the cooler because the OE baja Block has a bolt on cooler. The new Block does not.

Not going for performance. Its a customers car. Hence the wrong block in the first place. Id like to get the car finished and out of my bay. Lol.

BTW it's a pretty solid 04 Baja turbo- Automatic. Black. Lifted a bit. Considering the road salt around here and how all the Roo rotted through the K frame and behind the doors its a pretty decent ride actually.
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Old 07-04-2022, 09:04 AM   #2
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you can swap the angled cooler adapter to the new motor , its not hard , well if the motor is not timed that is
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Old 07-04-2022, 09:05 AM   #3
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or run no cooler , i mean warmer , a plug in the block and a different water pump
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Old 07-04-2022, 10:10 AM   #4
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you can swap the angled cooler adapter to the new motor , its not hard , well if the motor is not timed that is

Can't. The block that has the angle adapter is drilled and tapped for the adapter. 5 bolts. 8mm i believe. The block with the straight one is not drilled and tapped and the cooler is held on by the coupler And the angled piece itself has some clearance issues too.

The engine is on a stand right now waiting for a header. I can get to everything well.

Can't do away with it either. No room for even the filter itself. It may fit but oil changes would sure suck. Could do a relocation but a new header pipe is just as cheap. If I knew which years had it.

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Old 07-04-2022, 10:25 AM   #5
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Id post a picture of what I have but apparently I've not posted enough to have permission
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Old 07-04-2022, 10:42 AM   #6
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the cast iron angled adapter is two pieces

look further
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Old 07-04-2022, 01:16 PM   #7
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the cast iron angled adapter is two pieces

look further

Yeah but the bottom piece bolts on. The actual cooler is not angled. If I could use the angled button piece I'd be fine. But my block has no way to mount the angled piece. I have both off. I'll check again but the block I have doesn't have the 5 holes to mount the piece too. Only the oil gallery and the threaded hole for the adapter.

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Old 07-04-2022, 01:50 PM   #8
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i've been working on these things for more than a minute and i have never seen a case drilled for the angle adapter to bolt to
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Old 07-04-2022, 02:19 PM   #9
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i've been working on these things for more than a minute and i have never seen a case drilled for the angle adapter to bolt to


I've worked on them since 99. I have 10 or so at the shop now. 2 NA baja. A turbo Baja. 2 forester. An impreza outback sport (ugly little bastatds) etc etc. Ive swapped engines, trans, center diffs etc etc plenty in these cars. Ive played with these subaru since my 2000 2.5 RS. I'll show you one when I'm able to post a dang picture. I have both the original and the replacement blocks Handy and can snap a picture tonight. I have already un bolted the adapter trying to force something to work. It was held on by 5 small bolts. Maybe I dod miss something. The engine was in my Cherry picker when I took its adapter off but I know that 5 bolts hold it on. I do engine swaps on all manner of vehicles. Im used to the BS that comes with putting parts in that weren't made for the car. I'm far from a subaru expert but I'm not a newbie either. I crawled under a cousins wrx and it was different too.

What I know is that the car is an 04 baja turbo. Ej25 stamped block b25 heads. DOhc with Variable timing on the intake side only. I also know that the trans was rebuilt in 07. It has a stamped plate on it. The car had a blown head gasket and the oil pan was full of water. The car sat broke down for years and the current owner bought it. He had it towed to me. I first used a ratchet on the crank pulley and knew the piston and rings were stuck. (I have pictures of that too. Maybe the worst I've seen). I told him he needed an engine. He dropped off a clean looking complete engine, also ej25 with b25 heads and intake avcs. The intake on the new engine is plastic and some extra sensors so I used the old cast intake from the original motor and the Bajas wiring harness.. The new one has the down pipe and the exhaust manifolds but someone took the center pipe that connects the two manifolds. I assume its catted or they thought it was and they wanted to sell that. I have a local subaru only lot with several hundred parts cars. If I knew what year the motor was I could likely get a pipe free or cheap. There is a number on the bell housing portion but it's 12 digits so not a vin. I thought maybe I could look it up. The first 2 digits of that number are 04 then a space then the rest. But that 04 could be completely coincidence

If nothing happens I'll update tonight after I get home from my "real job" and get to my shop. Maybe by then I'll have enough posts to post attachments. My permissions say I still "may not"
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Old 07-04-2022, 02:21 PM   #10
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All of them, itís a lil mount u can pull out, like a sandwich adapter, have to pull for some headers

The bolts are bolting the 2 pieces together, not to the block
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Old 07-04-2022, 02:27 PM   #11
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All of them, itís a lil mount u can pull out, like a sandwich adapter, have to pull for some headers

The bolts are bolting the 2 pieces together, not to the block

Ok. Makes sense. The block was dirty and I was looking up at it so ill check it again tonight. No doubt I could have missed that.

So what is holding in the bottom half of the adapter then?

Thanks to you both either way
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Old 07-04-2022, 02:33 PM   #12
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i sent you a pm , look in "private messages"


but........




it breaks down like this , it's legal to buy it , it's legal to own it , and if you're the proprietor of a hash bar it's legal to sell it , but but wait , if you get stopped by a cop in amsterdam it's illegal for them to search you , thats a right the cops in amsterdam don't have


no wait , thats the wrong one

it breaks down like this

1;remove oil filter
2;remove the threaded pipe that the oil filter screws on to
3;remove oil cooler
4;remove the "5" (been a year since in did one but i thought i remembered 6 , and the last one is tough to get to) bolts holding the thingy that the oil cooler was screwed on to
6;now that you are at the actual adapter plate , (the "bottom half" , it's actually the upper half) remove the pipe in the center that holds it to the block and the adapter plate comes with it
7;realize that the old oil cooler and the new one are not interchangeable
8;install proper oil cooler with matching o-ring and oil filter pipe , and hoses
9;facepalm
10;open big boy soda

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Old 07-04-2022, 04:06 PM   #13
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i sent you a pm , look in "private messages"


but........




it breaks down like this , it's legal to buy it , it's legal to own it , and if you're the proprietor of a hash bar it's legal to sell it , but but wait , if you get stopped by a cop in amsterdam it's illegal for them to search you , thats a right the cops in amsterdam don't have


no wait , thats the wrong one

it breaks down like this

1;remove oil filter
2;remove the threaded pipe that the oil filter screws on to
3;remove oil cooler
4;remove the "5" (been a year since in did one but i thought i remembered 6 , and the last one is tough to get to) bolts holding the thingy that the oil cooler was screwed on to
6;now that you are at the actual adapter plate , (the "bottom half" , it's actually the upper half) remove the pipe in the center that holds it to the block and the adapter plate comes with it
7;realize that the old oil cooler and the new one are not interchangeable
8;install proper oil cooler with matching o-ring and oil filter pipe , and hoses
9;facepalm
10;open big boy soda
Yep. It came off. The "pipe " was out but the Dowel was rusted in place. Actually took some smacks to free it. And yeah it was 6 bolts.
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Old 07-04-2022, 06:34 PM   #14
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i believe you
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