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Old 12-10-2001, 03:15 AM   #1
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Default Where the heck can I buy a LINK plug and? play for USDM MY02

I have been searching.

Where can I get one, and for how much?

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Old 12-10-2001, 03:45 AM   #2
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I'm testing one right now. Too early to have any prices and availability projections. Still working on mapping and other misc. details.

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Old 12-10-2001, 07:16 AM   #3
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thats exactly what SACTOWNREXMAN wanted to know shiv. Wanted to to know if you would be interested in tuning it for him.

talk to you later

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Old 12-10-2001, 07:40 AM   #4
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Talk to Braden at Suby Sports www.subysports.com

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Old 12-10-2001, 08:48 AM   #5
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I'm testing one right now. Too early to have any prices and availability projections. Still working on mapping and other misc. details.


first unichip now this...

I'm speachless...but this is very cool. My recent discoveries on what I want to do with the car leads me the tec2. Yes I won't be different like I was hoping...but...

while I was having my heart set on the Link...I just keep on coming back to tec2.

Shiv...can you give us some of your insight on what you think of it?
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Old 12-10-2001, 02:21 PM   #6
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To early to have any valid impressions on it. I've only been using it for the last week or so. It's super easy to install. 5 minutes max once the stock ECU box is pulled out. Window software seems to be good although I can honestly say I like the TEC-II interface and tuning strategy better. But perhaps I'll warm up to it as time goes by and with more familiarity. Currently, I'm hunting down a small ignition-related problem. Once fixed, I'll be more comfortable with giving a comprehensive user review.

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Old 12-10-2001, 02:37 PM   #7
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Adam at Z1 is a authorised dealer of LINK products. I've installed 2 "since I work there" They are very nive units and easy to use. Call him at 631-254-8277...Gerry
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Old 12-10-2001, 03:25 PM   #8
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I'm just curious as to what advantages/disadvantages a Link plug and play would have over the Unichip? I have a Unichip on the way, and I'm just trying to make sure I'm spending my money on the right mod.
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Old 12-10-2001, 08:00 PM   #9
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Default Link ecu for sale

i am selling a brand new link ecu in the box with serial adapter for 1600 email me if you are interested will be willing to work out some kind of trade for a unichip or tec-2
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Old 12-10-2001, 08:14 PM   #10
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OK, I'll bite. Why a unichip over a link, if you would also take a tec-II?

I have the same dilemma, trying to decide which one will be best for my plans (Shiv - e-mailed you). Also considering a Haltech.

To answer you original question, Teague's Auto in NC is also a Link authorized dealer. Believe he's awaiting testing results from CA
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:28 PM   #11
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Link = Stand alone ECU that replaces the stock ECU entirely
Tec = Stand alone ECU that controls the engine, also has its own crank trigger
Unichip = Piggyback that only tricks the stock ECU

Thats the limitted knowledge I have...
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:44 PM   #12
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Unichip - not programable by YOU

Links disadvantge is resolution. Just doesn't have what the tec2 has. Link is nice because it plugs right into your stock system.

but I have now realized that plugins are not worth the difference. They are merly ... perks
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:45 PM   #13
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Shiv is programming the link ECU? I am right now doing the happy dance! I was just thinking today that I wished that vishnu had something cheaper and easier to install than a TEC-II but more advanced and programable than the unichip. I would be very happy to get a Vishnu tuned Link ECU. Keep up the good work Shiv!
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Old 12-10-2001, 09:49 PM   #14
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Links disadvantge is resolution. Just doesn't have what the tec2 has. Link is nice because it plugs right into your stock system.
Care to explain? How much better can the Tec be, the only thing different is it has its own crank trigger? Or am I missing some things?

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Old 12-10-2001, 09:52 PM   #15
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Sorry, my question was AftabWRX, since you were willing to go "down" to a unichip, or "up" to a tec-II. Think I understand the differences, but wondered if there was something about the Link to make you want to switch?
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Old 12-10-2001, 10:04 PM   #16
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Certainly no expert, but in components alone, the vishnu tec-II is much more than a replacement system with a crank trigger. Actually, "replacement" is the wrong term, since it works in parallel with the stock ecu.
http://www.vishnuperformance.com/products.html

Very interested in hearing about any experience with a Link or Haltech system on a WRX.
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Old 12-10-2001, 10:13 PM   #17
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This seems to be the other difference:

Bolt-on High Resolution Crank Trigger Assembly
Knock Sensor
Upgraded Engine Sensors


Since the Link uses all the stock sensors, it is a bit more limitted. But so far we have seen an owner with a unichip hit 12.3... So that tells me the stock sensors are not worth the extra $700 to replace. The link is a full replacement just like the Tec. More people may know how to tune the Tec and that's certainly a benefit as well....

But I'd still rather spend that money on a bigger turbo, etc... Of course I'm only planning mid 300 HP...
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Old 12-10-2001, 10:39 PM   #18
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Been posted eslewhere, but the little research I've done seems to suggest this is also a major difference between a link and vishnu tec-II. Lots of other folks sell tec-II's, and they are replacement systems. By having it work in parallel, not strictly replacement, the stock ecu maintains some basic functions (idle control, fuel pump relay, etc.). Think that is big plus, allowing Subaru $$ and testing to control the "non-performance" functions.
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Old 12-10-2001, 11:48 PM   #19
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Vishnu is only a tuner of the electromotive Tec-II. I don't see how having the Stock ECU control non vital engine function is a benefit or a detriment. I do see that replacing the sensors and knowledge of the ECU is though....
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Old 12-10-2001, 11:53 PM   #20
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OK, I'll bite. Why a unichip over a link, if you would also take a tec-II?

I have the same dilemma, trying to decide which one will be best for my plans (Shiv - e-mailed you). Also considering a Haltech.

To answer you original question, Teague's Auto in NC is also a Link authorized dealer. Believe he's awaiting testing results from CA
Yep, I'm currently testing/mapping two different Link ECUs on two different WRXes (my bone stock blue wagon and a customer's Stage Zero'd silver sedan). Still trouble-shooting a couple of details which I'm working out with Link USA. Once solved, it should be a good option for those who want full programmability and a plug-in ECU at a relatively low price. Jury is still out on final price but it should be less expensive than the yet-to-be-released TEC3 option (which will include a plug-in harness, BTW). I don't see the different systems (Unichip, Link and TEC3) competing directly with each other. Too much of a price spread ($600 for the Unichip, ~$2400 for the TEC3 and somewhere in the middle for the Link.) Injectors are extra, of course.

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Old 12-11-2001, 12:11 AM   #21
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As far as the price differences between these three units - one must remember with either the LINK or TEC you will need lots and lot of time to invest to get it running really well

I've hard to many bad things about how hard it is to tune a link . . . so I decided that IF I was going to go through all that effort I'd get something that also gave me some extra power in the spark department (with the stock ignition I hit a ignition wall at 20 psi)

Final thought - - If you buy the link - -then you need to shell out like $700.00 also for the sti injectors IF your going to make any power

The TEC II kit that shiv is selling for $2,400.00 - - soon to be TEC III - - I guess includes some injectors - although we still do not know which ones - - so the real comparison price is $1,700.00 for the ecu and $700.00 fo the injectotrs


I hear the TEC III has some real advantages over the TEC II which seems to be a bit crude - - for instance it comes with seperate coils which really aid instalation and help you put the coils much closer to the plugs and the injection is real sequential
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I'll keep all that in mind in my decision making. Good info... Thanks!
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Old 12-11-2001, 12:48 AM   #23
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"Vishnu is the only tuner of the electromotive Tec-II."

Don't think so. http://www.electromotive-inc.com/dealers.htm

On the non-performance functions - because more than a few guys (Subaru) with time and $$$ were able to figure out what would work best for this design given certain parameters (like mean time between failure, efficiency, etc.) Agree to disagree.
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Old 12-11-2001, 02:13 AM   #24
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Vishnu is the only tuner of the electromotive Tec-II.
this could be very true...
WAY back when I first got the WRX looking into ecu upgrades...I found the tec2 (since my friend owns an rx7 he pointed me toward it) ...

Anyway...even before I had seen shiv on this board...I called 3 dealers of tec2's around my area...and each one of them told me to call a guy named Shiv Pathak. Even a small town garage here in Michigan knew about shiv and what he does.

So i could believe it...
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Old 12-11-2001, 02:22 AM   #25
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Everyone seems to forget there is a NICE quiet guy named Adam bloom at Z1 performance in long island NY - who not only holds the record for the fastest subaru 1/4 mile in the us . . . but he also tunned the fastest stock turbo WRX in the us so far !

I'm not taking anything away from Shiv . . . his kit is super nice and well priced at 2,400.00 - - hell I wanted to but one from him and he wouldn't even sell it to me - - no doubt he is a great tunner

But this guy Adam Bloom cabn do the same job for the same price and if your easy coast . . . well then I guess he's a good choice
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