2024 "All New" Impreza... Hatch only, CVT only because **** Enthusiasts

[Kostamojen]

SOA just announced they are debuting the new regular Impreza at the LA autoshow soon...

https://www.subaru.com/laas2022

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[Sid03SVT]

curious if they will stay the course or move further into hybrid/electrification territory.

[Snow Drift]

Death of the sedan?

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

Death of the sedan?

Oh fine. Have it your way.

[Russ_G93]

Ahh, so basically what the WRX should've been body shell wise. Thanks Boobaru..

[subySerb]

It'll be the same as the already released Crosstrek but without the cladding and not lifted.


Give us the Levorg!!!!!!

[subySerb]

It'll be the same as the already released Crosstrek but without the cladding and not lifted.


Give us the Levorg!!!!!!

[dwf137]

that would look great with a hood scoop.

[Kostamojen]

Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

curious if they will stay the course or move further into hybrid/electrification territory.

Yes, drivetrains will be the interesting thing...

With Bucky & Paris doing the presentation, speculation is a return of the 2.5RS which is a possibility since they just need to put the FB25 in there with a manual.

I would rather have PHEV though.

[Russ_G93]

Probs just going to be another 4 banger offering the same powerplant options of the crosstrek. If they throw in a Hyrbid, then that right there is going to prove to me how much the EPA has SOA by the nuts. Cobbs power numbers on the WRX pretty much show, A: They tuned it back to equal what the cvt/spt can take, or B: EPA is actually forcing Subaru to Let off of the Safety kick, and begin improving their engines.

[moshter11]

I wouldn't expect anything interesting out of this new MY.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

Probs just going to be another 4 banger offering the same powerplant options of the crosstrek. If they throw in a Hyrbid, then that right there is going to prove to me how much the EPA has SOA by the nuts. Cobbs power numbers on the WRX pretty much show, A: They tuned it back to equal what the cvt/spt can take, or B: EPA is actually forcing Subaru to Let off of the Safety kick, and begin improving their engines.

Again it's not the TR690 HTCVT being the weak link. It's the manual. Ascent is rated for more torque 1k more weight plus 5k towing capacity and higher payload. No manuals given.

[Russ_G93]

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Again it's not the TR690 HTCVT being the weak link. It's the manual. Ascent is rated for more torque 1k more weight plus 5k towing capacity and higher payload. No manuals given.

For some reason I always thought "Ahh is probably that dinky cvt" holding things back. But that is a great point. So with cobb throwing higher numbers with the manual (SPT not compatible), does that mean its more of a carbon rating issue? or just the Wrx was never meant to be a fast car like the STI, but just a regular turbo sedan for anyone?

[kayen]

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Again it's not the TR690 HTCVT being the weak link. It's the manual. Ascent is rated for more torque 1k more weight plus 5k towing capacity and higher payload. No manuals given.

Is it really so much that the WRX 6 speed can't handle the power or is it really about Subaru limiting failures (warranty claims) from improper usage of the WRX 6 speed? i.e. clutch drops.

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Yes, drivetrains will be the interesting thing...

With Bucky & Paris doing the presentation, speculation is a return of the 2.5RS which is a possibility since they just need to put the FB25 in there with a manual.

I would rather have PHEV though.

Stay tuned.

[Scooby-Doode]

Originally Posted by subySerb

It'll be the same as the already released Crosstrek but without the cladding and not lifted.


Give us the Levorg!!!!!!

Originally Posted by subySerb

It'll be the same as the already released Crosstrek but without the cladding and not lifted.


Give us the Levorg!!!!!!

Pipe dream.... Echos ensue Pipe Dream Pipe Dream

[Angelus911]

Let me guess: weird shaped fenders, cheap ass plastic over the front, and 140hp

[torquemada]

Originally Posted by Angelus911

Let me guess: weird shaped fenders, cheap ass plastic over the front, and 140hp

hey don´t forget the earth shaking 16 electrical hp you will get

[dwf137]

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Again it's not the TR690 HTCVT being the weak link. It's the manual. Ascent is rated for more torque 1k more weight plus 5k towing capacity and higher payload. No manuals given.

Or is it MPG? The ascent is a "truck" as far as EPA is concerned, and therefore low MPG hurts a lot less since the targets are higher.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by dwf137

Or is it MPG? The ascent is a "truck" as far as EPA is concerned, and therefore low MPG hurts a lot less since the targets are higher.

Isn’t MPG worse with the CVT because it has VTD?

[dwf137]

Is that some sort of venereal disease?

[Snow Drift]

Originally Posted by 4S-TURBO

Isn't MPG worse with the CVT because it has VTD?

I assume you mean the WRX, not an Ascent (Active AWD). I'd think 45:55 should be more efficient then 50:50, no? My guess is the difference is weight. Either the SPT weighs more, planetary gear center diff might be heavier than VC, or they used a GT model. Recaros, dampers, who knows what else (maybe more sound deadening?).

[Pre]

Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Yes, drivetrains will be the interesting thing...

With Bucky & Paris doing the presentation, speculation is a return of the 2.5RS which is a possibility since they just need to put the FB25 in there with a manual.

I would rather have PHEV though.

That will actually be quite if all they do is put the 2.5L n/a in there and try to market it as performance. Nothing would surprise me anymore.

[neg_matnik]

Originally Posted by Russ_G93

[...] Cobbs power numbers on the WRX pretty much show, A: They tuned it back to equal what the cvt/spt can take, or B: EPA is actually forcing Subaru to Let off of the Safety kick, and begin improving their engines.

Subaru has been sitting on its own nuts for far too long and they went numb.
They had plenty of time to work on better engines but they didn't make it a priority like every other manufacturer in the industry.
So, yeah, now, EPA and CARB are holding their numb nuts .
Subaru can't blame rules and regulations; they can only blame themselves.

[4S-TURBO]

Originally Posted by Snow Drift

I assume you mean the WRX, not an Ascent (Active AWD). I'd think 45:55 should be more efficient then 50:50, no? My guess is the difference is weight. Either the SPT weighs more, planetary gear center diff might be heavier than VC, or they used a GT model. Recaros, dampers, who knows what else (maybe more sound deadening?).

We are talking in context to the CVT and the differences between the WRX and Ascent. If MPG played a role with WRX output because it’s not a truckster, theoretically the CVT would have been dropped altogether because the 6MT is rated higher with the open diffs and lack of MPG sucking planetary center. And yeah more weight.