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Old 02-06-2018, 01:32 PM   #826
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Are you on our 91 or 93 octane tune?
On Jan 10th you sent me the MAPerformance 2018 WRX Stg 1 - v6 - 91oct tune file.

DAM is currently .750 after yesterday's afternoon drive. Temps are climbing in Vegas, it was a nice ~76 degrees on that drive. It will only get hotter, and that's where my concerns begin to grow.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:47 PM   #827
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My 2017 still has the v5 beta october stage 2 tune...Is this the most current, and do you have any plans to update to the newest firmware from the Subaru ECU update that addresses the Alternator duty cycle (it was realeased mid 2017)?

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Old 02-06-2018, 02:16 PM   #828
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I disagree with you on this one. And i would like to voice out that i actually love the throttle sensitivity of the stock tune. The best case, for me, would be stock tune's throttle sensitivity and with power curve of MAP tune's. imho.

I am not saying you're incorrect. I believe it's a matter of personal preference. I like touchy pedals for easy throttle blipping for rev match and heel+toe. I had no issue with bumper to bumper traffic with stock tune. I wish they can make the same power tune but with two different throttle sensitivities to satisfy both preferences.

I currently run the MAP 91 tune from the v5 October. Just tuning in to check what's new out there.

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So far, I have only one criticism, and it is a minor one. I think the throttle tip-in and midrange is a little thin. I'm almost certain this is just the throttle pedal sensitivity and not an engine tune concern. I ran the Cobb stage 1 tune just a day before plugging this MAP tune in, but the Cobb had an excellent throttle setting, I thought. It was much more smooth than stock (which is really sensitive to the point of being possibly dangerous in crammed traffic), and between the MAP and Cobb tune I think Cobb nailed the throttle behavior better.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:25 PM   #829
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I disagree with you on this one. And i would like to voice out that i actually love the throttle sensitivity of the stock tune. The best case, for me, would be stock tune's throttle sensitivity and with power curve of MAP tune's. imho.

I am not saying you're incorrect. I believe it's a matter of personal preference. I like touchy pedals for easy throttle blipping for rev match and heel+toe. I had no issue with bumper to bumper traffic with stock tune. I wish they can make the same power tune but with two different throttle sensitivities to satisfy both preferences.

I currently run the MAP 91 tune from the v5 October. Just tuning in to check what's new out there.
I believe that you are the only person, I have read, that it satisfied with the stock tune.
I thought the stock tune of my '17 WRX was horribly atrocious.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:33 PM   #830
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I am only satisfied with the stock tune's throttle map. That's the only thing i like about stock tune. I hate the rev hang and i absolutely hate the power drop off after 4.5k.

I guess i didn't make it clear. I only liked the throttle mapping part. Thus, i would love a MAP tune with stock throttle sensitivity but the power curve of MAP's tune.

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I believe that you are the only person, I have read, that it satisfied with the stock tune.
I thought the stock tune of my '17 WRX was horribly atrocious.
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Old 02-06-2018, 02:56 PM   #831
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I am only satisfied with the stock tune's throttle map. That's the only thing i like about stock tune. I hate the rev hang and i absolutely hate the power drop off after 4.5k.

I guess i didn't make it clear. I only liked the throttle mapping part. Thus, i would love a MAP tune with stock throttle sensitivity but the power curve of MAP's tune.
I understand.
I think I hated the touchy throttle map more than the rev hang, but maybe equal to the torque drop off. I hated everything about it.
After flashing either the Cobb or MAP Stage 1, the car drove like any other manual transmission car, predictable.
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Regarding the throttle behavior, my wife noticed the difference (from the passenger seat) and that's saying something.

Also, after the car learned more with MAP's tune in place, it became more and more responsive (or my foot got used to it.) Either way, I'm totally happy with the MAP throttle mapping decision. Now if only I could figure out what to do about these damn DAM's. haha. I know there's not much that can be done, short of cutting ignition timing from the get-go.
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Old 02-06-2018, 04:19 PM   #833
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Regarding the throttle behavior, my wife noticed the difference (from the passenger seat) and that's saying something.

Also, after the car learned more with MAP's tune in place, it became more and more responsive (or my foot got used to it.) Either way, I'm totally happy with the MAP throttle mapping decision. Now if only I could figure out what to do about these damn DAM's. haha. I know there's not much that can be done, short of cutting ignition timing from the get-go.
Same here. The wife reports no more jerking.
I went from stock tune, to Cobb stage 1 for eight tanks of gas, to the MAP Stage 1.
I don't recall a learning period for the Cobb, but the MAP tune caused the throttle to have response lag, but only for about 2 or 3 days.
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Old 02-14-2018, 01:00 PM   #834
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Interesting observation today, I installed my R400 exhaust last night, and noticed that so far there's been zero knock incidents, zero correction. Is it possible that a more free-flowing exhaust can reduce engine knock? I'll need more data points (time) to prove that it is not knocking. I swapped back to the Cobb 91 tune after dam dropped to the .6ish range, figuring something isn't quite right, but to be very fair, the Cobb tune's DAM dropped down pretty good as well so its not a MAP-specific thing. Its just compensation for bad fuel quality probably but this latest run in the morning with the new exhaust and 0.00 for knock and DAM at 1.00 (I reset after I put on the exhaust) has me excited. Too soon perhaps?

edit still no knock or DAM drop after a lunch break drive..

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Old 02-22-2018, 10:55 PM   #835
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Is the main (or about only) difference between the 93 and 91 octane tunes the timing advance? And lower torque targets? Will be running 93 octane fuel but mostly want a tune to fix the throttle mapping and inconsistencies in the stock tune. Not looking for much more power. May go with the 91 tune. Both are set to 20.5 psi as the target, correct?

The Cobb tune just wasn't enough of a change. Still had rev hang and the throttle was not linear enough for me.

Also, turning off stratified startup would be icing on the cake if it had it. Maybe soon...

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Old 02-23-2018, 10:03 AM   #836
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Correct. Really it's timing more than anything that is the major difference between the two maps.

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Is the main (or about only) difference between the 93 and 91 octane tunes the timing advance? And lower torque targets? Will be running 93 octane fuel but mostly want a tune to fix the throttle mapping and inconsistencies in the stock tune. Not looking for much more power. May go with the 91 tune. Both are set to 20.5 psi as the target, correct?

The Cobb tune just wasn't enough of a change. Still had rev hang and the throttle was not linear enough for me.

Also, turning off stratified startup would be icing on the cake if it had it. Maybe soon...
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Old 02-23-2018, 03:47 PM   #837
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Ian,
My 2017 still has the v5 beta october stage 2 tune...Is this the most current, and do you have any plans to update to the newest firmware from the Subaru ECU update that addresses the Alternator duty cycle (it was realeased mid 2017)?
+1 except I have a 2015
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