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06-21-2018, 07:00 PM | #1 |
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JDM EJ205 Timing Belt Kit Question
I have a 2004 WRX and I have ordered and JDM EJ205 with single AVCS. I want to put a new timing belt kit on it. How do I know which kit to buy for the swap. I was on rally sport direct, and it is specific to the kit, and they cannot confirm kit fitment. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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06-22-2018, 12:01 AM | #2 |
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Gates TCKWP328 is what I used on my single avcs jdm ej205 but I used an oem tensioner, not the Gates. Search for the Aisin kit thread recently here. Apparently it is better than the Gates I got.
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06-24-2018, 06:50 PM | #3 |
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I used the AISIN TK-004 on my EJ207 without issue.
261.99 on rockauto.com Per AISIN's website - 02-04 WRX is TKF-008 but the 05 WRX is listed as TKF-004. http://partcat.com/aisin |
06-30-2018, 06:38 PM | #4 |
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I have the TK-004 on mine from the last owner. As far as I know it was a perfect fit and ran good until I rear ended someone. ***128514;***128514;
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07-16-2018, 02:15 PM | #5 |
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Hi all,
I know this is only marginally related, but since I'm a new member I couldn't create a new thread. Please forgive me I'm looking into getting an Aisin kit for my US 03 WRX since I've been reading unsavory things about Gates. According to Aisin (or at least partcat.com/aisin), the correct kit would be the TKF-008. Simple enough BUT it doesn't appear to include the cogged idler like every other kit (including their kits for other models). So as mentioned above in this thread, partcat shows the TKF-008 as being the kit for 02 to 04 WRXs, whereas for 05 it lists TKF-004 as being the correct kit (for both EJ205 and EJ255). Then again, on an Aisin product bulletin (http://www.aisinaftermarket.com/uplo...T.05-06-13.pdf) it does not mention the EJ205 So my best guess is that partcat is wrong, but I hope that's not the case. Actually, I don't really care, and I just want to know if the TKF-004 would work. Partially because I want the cogged idler that comes with that kit, and partially because it's at least $30 cheaper. PLS HLP! Cheers, Mark |
10-05-2018, 11:38 AM | #6 | |
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Did you ever figure this out?
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10-05-2018, 03:38 PM | #7 | |
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Just wanted to let you know that a couple years ago I opted for the less expensive kits and ended up getting the more expensive kit anyway. The tensioner pulley didn't fit properly. Just save yourself the trouble and get a kit that is either completely sourced with Japanese parts or German parts. Both have proven to be good quality. |
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10-06-2018, 10:09 PM | #8 |
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the jdm and usdm use the same timing parts. even with AVCS. i bought all my parts individually and they all are the same.
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10-09-2018, 11:27 AM | #9 |
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10-09-2018, 11:28 AM | #10 | |
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10-09-2018, 12:31 PM | #11 | |
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When I did my jdm swap I looked into doing them as well. Talked with my tuner and a reputable engine builder and both said not to do them unless they have obvious of leaking. Not a typical failure point on these engines I was told. |
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10-15-2018, 03:32 AM | #12 | |
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10-15-2018, 11:26 AM | #13 |
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Cool, I appreciate the info I値l check them out while I知 down there for the peace of mind and hope they aren稚 too bad.
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11-25-2018, 07:53 PM | #14 |
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Bump for Foo, Aisin kit part # on first page.
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11-28-2018, 04:03 PM | #15 |
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Only oem for me!
Subaru Part Number 13028AA240 | Timing Belt This product fits 7 models, 630 variants between 1997 and 2014. Subaru Part Number 13033AA042 | Adjuster Ay Belt Tension This product fits 7 models, 630 variants between 1997 and 2014. Subaru Part Number 13073AA142 | Pt340292 Idler Cp Belt This product fits 7 models, 833 variants between 1990 and 2019. Subaru Part Number 13085AA080 | Idler Cp Belt NO.2 This product fits 7 models, 608 variants between 1990 and 2019. Subaru Part Number 13073AA230 | Idler Cp Belt This product fits 7 models, 221 variants between 2003 and 2019. So thats the timing stuff. As you can see most of this stuff spans lots of models and lots of years of ej205s and subaru did that to save production costs so its compatible with the JDM ej205 since the physical block that these are bolting to are exactly the same, only the internals were different. You should also change the water pump and thermostat at the same time. Subaru Part Number 21200AA072 | Thermostat This product fits 8 models, 709 variants between 1990 and 2019. Subaru Part Number 21236AA010 | Thermostat Gasket This product fits 9 models, 992 variants between 1990 and 2019. Subaru Part Number 21111AA240 | Water Pump Complete This product fits 7 models, 138 variants between 2004 and 2019. Subaru Part Number 21114AA051 | Gasket Water Pump This product fits 8 models, 867 variants between 1990 and 2019. through subaru the timing belt kit comes out to $480 vs the aisins $280. and Subaru doesnt manufacture any of this stuff, its a NTN tensioner, koyo idler, nsk idler, etc. I went with subaru for peace of mind and because i knew gates was garbage. The aisins kit looks like.it uses a cheaper water pump and that's where they are able to apply the huh savings. Possibly the timing belt as well. Last edited by Foo_Blyat; 12-02-2018 at 12:13 PM. |
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You should def change all the oil seals as well although 95% of people will skip this step. Ill include part numbers since it doesnt look like aisin sells these
Subaru Part Number 806732160 | Oil Seal 32X55X8.5 Subaru Part Number 806742160 | Oil Seal 42X55X8 Subaru Part Number 806733030 | Oil Seal Last edited by Foo_Blyat; 11-28-2018 at 08:26 PM. |
11-30-2018, 02:15 PM | #17 |
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I just received my timing belt kit from Subaru
Now that it's physically here I can say I have absolutely zero regrets going oem instead of aisin. Subaru uses a high qaulity yamada water pump that could literally out last the physical car but aikin uses a no brand name knock off from what I can tell. There is no yamada stamp on it anywhere , only the Japan stamp matches oem. The aikin gasket is like paper, I'd only use oem gaskets. And the timing belt is probably also questionable. I'm not one to cut corners, and the extra $200 spent going oem is priceless compared to the peace of mind knowing I have high quality parts going onto the car. Maybe if amazon sells the idlers for less than Subaru I'd get those individually but the rest of the kit , I'll stick with oem I'm.waiting on freight to bring me my JDM ej205 and I'll preprime it with my summit oil tank, compression check it, then start pealing everything apart and installing all the good stuff |
12-01-2018, 12:54 AM | #18 |
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Thanks for taking the time to post the part numbers and your impressions Foo.
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12-01-2018, 05:18 PM | #19 | |
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I checked the timing part numbers on the rest of the stuff and it all matches the part numbers on japan parts so thats universal. JDM ej205 with AVCS USDM ej205 wrx non avcs USDM sti single avcs USDM belt works since the jdm avcs gears are exactly the same as the usdm. Last edited by Foo_Blyat; 12-01-2018 at 06:44 PM. |
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12-04-2018, 09:19 PM | #20 |
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Just to point out why OEM is never a bad thing. I have seen aftermarket thermostat gaskets without those notches around the edge. When you line a notch up with the jiggle pin, over time as the gasket swells with age, the notch allows the pin to work freely. Without the notch, it's *possible* for the gasket to swell enough to protrude into the area of the pin, hampering it's ability to work as it should.
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02-05-2019, 06:21 PM | #21 | |
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Couldn't agree more.
Here is a neat article about the Subaru OEM pilot bearing vs. others: Subaru OEM Pilot Bearing vs Aftermarket Quote:
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03-19-2019, 11:34 AM | #23 |
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OEM kit
Hi Foo,
I was wondering where you purchased the OEM Subaru timing kit from? My 2004 WRX is due for the 102k maintenance and I would like to use genuine Subaru parts. Thanks! |
03-21-2019, 06:41 PM | #24 | |
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not only are their posted prices better than everyone but he will also kick you a 10% off here and there when you do repeat business. lol k |
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03-29-2019, 03:25 PM | #25 | |
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BTW, does anyone have experience with https://timingbeltkit.com. Here's the kit they sell for our car: https://timingbeltkit.com/products/t...o-2003-to-2005 |
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