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Old 05-21-2019, 07:08 PM   #6476
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I do like (not) the dueling swapped GC8 owners who have not come to grips with the fact that they're well over market. Sure, the one without the blown engine looks nice. But with enough looking around, or if they were even paying attention here, they would not have missed the several swapped GC8's that were offered and sold between $5k and $6k. $15k?
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:30 PM   #6477
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. $15k would get you a super clean, totally stock, maintenance up to date v1 STI. That's far nicer, more valuable long term and just generally more desireable than someone else's ex-project car.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:42 PM   #6478
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. $15k would get you a super clean, totally stock, maintenance up to date v1 STI. That's far nicer, more valuable long term and just generally more desireable than someone else's ex-project car.
Not on this coast.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:44 PM   #6479
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Not on this coast.
Add $2,000 for shipping then.

Still a much better deal.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:02 PM   #6480
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On this coast there would be no rust
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:02 PM   #6481
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I can't imagine there are many for sale in the US, period. In fact, I'm not even sure where I'd start looking for an imported vehicle. AutoTrader? eBay? So many filters are based on US availability.

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It kind of has been on a wayyy other coast for the past 25 years...
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:20 PM   #6482
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On this coast there would be no rust
Pretty much this. A clean, low miles GD STI is 20-25k easy.

They do exist too, I've seen several.
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Old 05-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #6483
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What a rip off!!
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Old 05-21-2019, 09:53 PM   #6484
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A 15/16 Forester Is a compact SUV not a midsize. My wife has a 15 limited Forester (not XT)and it’s pretty sweet. Unparalleled visibility in the segment. Great AWD vs the fwd biased systems in most other choices. We have a baby and the car seat fits good (also fits fine in my 19 wrx). Hers has 60k all good so far.


Aren’t the CVT Subaru’s FWD biased hence the addition of the X mode to “lock” it at 50:50?
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:38 AM   #6485
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Somewhat related (and don't want to make a car buying thread).

My wife thought it would be a good idea to veer off the road and lose control in her SRX and battle with a tree with me and the two little ones last Saturday. The tree won: KO in the first round. A damn shame; the car was a 2012 model but only had 30k miles and my grandma gave us a killer deal on it. Had every option under the sun: power everything, leather, heated seats, moon roof, just put on a brand new set of tires... Oh, well. Luckily everyone was ok - I took most of the beating, but I should be able to dress myself by the end of the week.

Anyway, although it was a decent car, the cargo space was near non-existent, and I'm finding myself looking at Forester XT's online...maybe around a 2015 or 2016 model. Are these good cars? The plan is to buy used with around 50k miles or less and snag something under $20k. My previous subaru was a 2002 WRX and it was a great car - didn't use a drop of oil after 160k miles. I'm guessing the non-turbo foresters are gutless from looking at the specs. Any other mid size SUV's I should be looking at?

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The Mazda CX-5 is a pretty solid SUV. The main knock on it was the 187 HP engine, but that's really enough for most people. They finally put a 250 HP turbo engine in it this year, but that's like twice your budget.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:57 AM   #6486
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We love our 2014 XT.
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Aren’t the CVT Subaru’s FWD biased hence the addition of the X mode to “lock” it at 50:50?
I just looked it up real quick. CVT equipped Subaru’s minus the wrx have a 60/40 split in full traction situations. The “active torque split” kicks in if slip is detected. Most other compact SUVs like the CRV are FWD over like 30mph (why they get better gas mileage). Those “awd” systems are more to prevent getting stuck in a snowy driveway or something like that.
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The Mazda CX-5 is a pretty solid SUV. The main knock on it was the 187 HP engine, but that's really enough for most people. They finally put a 250 HP turbo engine in it this year, but that's like twice your budget.
I have no issue with our CX5. My wife called it zippy when she got it, so it's plenty peppy enough for her and me frankly. It's not the biggest interior versus others in the class, so things like multiple car seats gets tricky if that's a factor to you or overall backseat leg room/space. It may also not be as quiet inside as some others in the class, but maybe since our 2016 year its gotten better. We opted for a tech package that had upgrade LED headlights and they are awesome and I'm glad we sprung for that.

All in all we like it a lot though. Self installed the CarPlay/AndroidAuto upgrade which was really nice to be able to do (and one of the reasons I bought it new to get the new infotainment in the 2016 year hoping this would happen)

Another benefit I like is that the TPMS isn't done by in-tire sensors, so swapping our winter/summer wheel/tire sets is super easy.

Visibility out the back and sides, not great. Glad to have a backup camera and blind spot monitoring. Would be very uncomfortable without it.

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Old 05-22-2019, 09:07 AM   #6489
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I just looked it up real quick. CVT equipped Subaru’s minus the wrx have a 60/40 split in full traction situations. The “active torque split” kicks in if slip is detected. Most other compact SUVs like the CRV are FWD over like 30mph (why they get better gas mileage). Those “awd” systems are more to prevent getting stuck in a snowy driveway or something like that.


The CR-V might be that way... and some of the newer systems that have rear drive disconnect (MINI’s All4, Jeep transverse 4WD, etc), but the Highlander and RAV4 I drove a while back was always sending something to the rear wheels at all speeds. They had a little display that showed torque split front and rear. It had a button to center diff lock 50:50 up to 25mph, which is like the X mode, I believe.

Several of the more off-road capable crossovers are coming out with rear differentials that actively bias power left and right rather than using the brakes to do so with an open rear differential. Long story short, I don’t think Subaru has the AWD advantage they once did because Subaru is chasing MPG and the competition is pushing for more traction than their typical old AWD systems.
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The CR-V might be that way... and some of the newer systems that have rear drive disconnect (MINI’s All4, Jeep transverse 4WD, etc), but the Highlander and RAV4 I drove a while back was always sending something to the rear wheels at all speeds. They had a little display that showed torque split front and rear. It had a button to center diff lock 50:50 up to 25mph, which is like the X mode, I believe.

Several of the more off-road capable crossovers are coming out with rear differentials that actively bias power left and right rather than using the brakes to do so with an open rear differential. Long story short, I don’t think Subaru has the AWD advantage they once did because Subaru is chasing MPG and the competition is pushing for more traction than their typical old AWD systems.
From my research Toyota AWD is fwd over 25mph in a full traction situation. It can still send power to the rear over 25mph if it detects slippage. The difference is the Subaru is awd default (full traction over 25mph) but can still also send power to the front or rear.
Both can only do the 50/50 LOCK under 25. Both systems have pros and cons and basically accomplish the same thing.
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