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Old 10-08-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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Question JDM STi Headlights Questions (2002 WRX)

Greetings All:
I am looking for some help and couldn't find all my questions answered in previous posts. I have a 2002 WRX that I am thinking of swapping the OEM lights to the JDM STi type (if I can find them at a decent price). I'm not that technical, so I apologize if these are stupid questions, but here goes:
1. Are there two versions of the same JDM light, an HID and a non-HID (that would not require the ballasts)? I have seen some on eBay that do not include the ballasts and I do not know if it is a missing part or not needed if not going HID. Where are the ballasts installed as this would be a new part in the engine bay.
2. Wire modification: I believe if there are two versions, both would need wire modification or a wire harness that I have seen for sale. Is it true plug and play (for lack of a better term!)? I would not have to do any wiring? What about the fuse...does it need to be updated for either HID or non-HID?
3. While I realize the HID are brighter, etc., if there is such a thing as non-HID (thus going the cheaper route), how is the light (meaning, similar to OEM)?
4. Would I have to aim them, and if so, is it easy (I understand the HID may have a motorized wire, but couldn't I just use a screwdriver)?
5. The OMS lights have the daytime running lights when the trans is in drive, and off when lights are turned on. If fog lights are on and then lights are switched to high beam, the fog lights go off. Does this all work the same way with the JDM's?

Thank you all so much for the advice to come!!!
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Old 10-08-2008, 11:03 AM   #2
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Greetings All:
I am looking for some help and couldn't find all my questions answered in previous posts. I have a 2002 WRX that I am thinking of swapping the OEM lights to the JDM STi type (if I can find them at a decent price). I'm not that technical, so I apologize if these are stupid questions, but here goes:
1. Are there two versions of the same JDM light, an HID and a non-HID (that would not require the ballasts)? I have seen some on eBay that do not include the ballasts and I do not know if it is a missing part or not needed if not going HID. Where are the ballasts installed as this would be a new part in the engine bay.
2. Wire modification: I believe if there are two versions, both would need wire modification or a wire harness that I have seen for sale. Is it true plug and play (for lack of a better term!)? I would not have to do any wiring? What about the fuse...does it need to be updated for either HID or non-HID?
3. While I realize the HID are brighter, etc., if there is such a thing as non-HID (thus going the cheaper route), how is the light (meaning, similar to OEM)?
4. Would I have to aim them, and if so, is it easy (I understand the HID may have a motorized wire, but couldn't I just use a screwdriver)?
5. The OMS lights have the daytime running lights when the trans is in drive, and off when lights are turned on. If fog lights are on and then lights are switched to high beam, the fog lights go off. Does this all work the same way with the JDM's?

Thank you all so much for the advice to come!!!
well there are actually 3 versions 1the JDM (NON-HID), JDM (HID), And the EURO SPEC: these are not hid's but the beam direction is the same as the US, also remember just because it dosent have HID's dosent mean you cant buy them later on I was looking for a set myself but then i crashed my car drifting, so i just said F' it and did a full 07 STi body swap, but if i were you i would just get some brand new stock lights and then go check out www.Lightwerks.net trust me you will not be disapointed.
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:23 PM   #3
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Ok, I will add even more to that...

There are actually 4 different types... JDM (non-HID), JDM (HID) JDM STi Wagon (HID - black chrome) and EDM (non-HID).

1 - The ballasts are little boxes about 3 inches x 4 inches, 1 inch thick. You can install them anywhere, usually right behind the headlight (in between the headlight and the battery is the normal spot). You need the ballasts to run the HID's, if they are non-HID you don't need anything.

2 - The plug and play harness SubyDude sells is for the non-HID lights, and is truly plug and play. Plug it in, your headlights work. You can use this harness for the HID lights, you just have to swap two wires (took me a while to figure this out when wiring up my lights). No fuses need to be changed, or relays.

3 - The non-HID lights will have the same output as stock, which is sufficient. But I will say the light from the HID's is far superior, and frankly teh sexAy

4 - Yes they can be aimed with a screw driver

5 - All of the light functions will work the same. Daytime running lights will be on, foglights will turn off when you switch to high beams. The low beams come out of the projectors, while the highbeam is the reflector part on the top of the headlight housing.


I paid a pretty penny for my headlights (I have JDM STi wagon headlights, factory HID's in black chrome)... but they are easily the favorite thing on my car. The light output is awesome, and they just look damn good.



Now... a word on beam pattern. In Japan they drive on the left side... so all JDM headlights are designed such that the light output is higher (physically higher, not brightness) on the left side (off the road). In the US, since we drive on the right, the headlights will be aimed up towards oncoming cars. That is why a lot of people prefer the EDM lights, they are designed for LHD cars. BUT they don't exist with factory HIDs.

I have the JDMs, and have them aimed lowed enough that I do not blind anybody. Some people will say no, stupid idea, you're blind the world! But honestly - from personal experience, my headlights do NOT shine into oncoming cars, I have plenty of light output in front of me.

If you have any other questions, feel free to PM me.
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:46 AM   #4
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Thank you both!
Twizzstyle...GREAT info! I might even be more confused now! First, your car looks great...that is exactly the look I am going for. Of course, now I think the HID is the way to go, but you also threw me with EDM's! I didn't even realize they existed. So my options are the JDM HID/JDM non-HID or EDM non-HID (do you know if the harness would work with the EDM non-HID as well? I could inquire with SubyDude on my own about that).
Back to a bit more research, along with trying to find any/all varieties so I can decide on which way to go!
Peace!
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Old 10-09-2008, 12:05 PM   #5
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it's easy to retrofit other projectors into any of these lights. unless you have LHD EDM projectors, you should consider it...

i had JDM projectors and used them in a variety of different roads and environments. they either blind others or blind you. there is no best of both worlds. they are unsafe for use on our roads. i took them off my car in favor of LHD projectors in homemade housings, and now the JDMs sit awaiting retrofit.
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Old 10-09-2008, 02:25 PM   #6
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Tell me more, Handsdown. Do you mean like from a company such as lightwerx? If not, do you have any links that I can take a look at? Thanks!
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:40 PM   #7
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I just picked up a set of JDM HID headlights.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1138757
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:40 AM   #8
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i mean doing what they do, but doing it yourself.

if you measure exactly, use a level, and can drill holes in metal, you can do it.

there are lots of threads. search for tsx retrofit jdm sti projectors
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Old 10-10-2008, 09:56 AM   #9
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they either blind others or blind you.
How do they blind you?

You can see the light cutoff pretty clearly, as long as it is below the windshields/windows of the other cars, you aren't blinding anybody. There are MANY people running JDM headlights without issue.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:02 PM   #10
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How do they blind you?

You can see the light cutoff pretty clearly, as long as it is below the windshields/windows of the other cars, you aren't blinding anybody. There are MANY people running JDM headlights without issue.
the sadest thing is that aimed low enough that(you thnik) they don't glare oncoming traffic, makes them pointless
there IS no happy medium

the jdm lights are the wrong lights for any LHD car and that's that
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:45 PM   #11
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the sadest thing is that aimed low enough that(you thnik) they don't glare oncoming traffic, makes them pointless
there IS no happy medium

the jdm lights are the wrong lights for any LHD car and that's that
I see you have a 2006 WRX, so do you speak from experience?

I was very concerned with this when I got my headlights, so I did a lot of checking with friends driving their cars in front of me, in on-coming lanes, varying distances, varying heights of their cars, etc. Blinded nobody. The step in the cutoff isn't that big.
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Old 10-10-2008, 01:15 PM   #12
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I see you have a 2006 WRX, so do you speak from experience?

I was very concerned with this when I got my headlights, so I did a lot of checking with friends driving their cars in front of me, in on-coming lanes, varying distances, varying heights of their cars, etc. Blinded nobody. The step in the cutoff isn't that big.
sorry, but it is impossible to use the 'wrong' lights the right way
can NOT happen
can NOT be done

a PROFESSIONAL may be able to refit the housings properly but that level is WAY beyond the average kid wanting kool and hacking things

and ive been there seen all that and know what it is all about

EDM lights are the only thing id use and even they aren't RIGHT


and the usdm stock bugeye headlights are just about worthless, yes--I know that
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Old 10-17-2008, 06:11 PM   #13
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i own a 2002 midnight black pearl wrx, and i found the jdm projectors on ebay for a good price a few months ago. well the ballast have the single harness plug that connects to the nissan maxima style ballast, with 2 wires in, 3 wires out in a single plug.

i did not have suby dude's easy wiring harness so I made my own and i figured with two wires, black and white from subaru, that black would be the neutral and white was the feeder (12v +) The hid bulbs crackled and wanted to come to life but my mistake, i fed the ballast the wrong voltage, possibly damaging them and shortening the life of the bulbs. ill never do that again. all is fine now, but that day taught me to NEVER assume what colors go to where on any japanese car. it might just be the opposite.

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How do they blind you?

You can see the light cutoff pretty clearly, as long as it is below the windshields/windows of the other cars, you aren't blinding anybody. There are MANY people running JDM headlights without issue.

By lighting up the pavement directly in front of the car, you force your eyes to adjust to a higher brightness than is actually lighting objects down the road. So, while you see things right in front of the car very nicely, you don't see the stuff that's important. Anything you see is going to be too close to react to.
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:25 PM   #15
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what bulb size does the jdm black chrome hid ones use? Can you put aftermarket bulbs in there or no?

Reason I ask is I have jdm non hids with mccolluch hids and found a good deal on the black chromes, so I wanted to know! lol
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Sorry if this was covered but what is the replacement size of the JDM headlight low beam bulb?
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2008 called, it wants its thread back.
H1 if they are halogen/non-HID.
I hope you're not using them with the RHD beam pattern.
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2019 called.

2002 Bugeye GG Wagon, going with some appearance upgrades.

Looking at these -

https://www.ebay.com/p/DEPO-Bugeye-B...xoCb3kQAvD_BwE
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I wouldn't, you get what you pay for and Ebay stuff is generally poop.
But there's also a whole thread just on those-
https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2462696
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