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07-30-2021, 09:18 AM | #3551 |
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We're looking at CUV's (wife nixed the van idea, oh well), and I want the Tesla Y batteries, motors, etc. but in something else; the Mach E is the one that works as a vehicle, but their EV tech is years behind Teslas; I really wish Tesla would start building cars instead of rolling iphones, as the Tablet-centric controls make it a no-go for us. The Mach-E has so many short comings as well (like no tow rating which makes it a no-go for us) that we'll probably wind up with a hybrid or ICE vehicle if we buy sooner rather than later (Rav-4 or more likely a Highlander or Ridgeline if she's comfortable dailying it). We aren't that old either, Tesla just makes really stupid moves interior-wise (like the freaking joke of a yoke in the S) that it makes the vehicles unappealing.
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07-30-2021, 10:33 AM | #3552 |
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Car & Driver's latest issue tests all the EV's for their EV of the Year and the Mach E was an easy winner. Are you looking for the best EV or the EV with the best tech?
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07-30-2021, 10:51 AM | #3553 | |
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By the way Tesla offered $45,800 for my 2018 Model 3 Performance Stealth, back interior, with FSD and 21.5k miles. Anyone here wants it? |
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07-30-2021, 11:14 AM | #3554 | |
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The Tesla Y has a tow rating (3,500lbs), but the tablet user interface is abysmal; I want physical controls for the things that I adjust while driving so I don't have to take my eyes off the road. Beyond that, I want a gauge cluster in front of me so I can check my speed in my peripheral vision, rather than looking down and to the right at the center console/tablet and taking my eyes off the road to see how fast I'm going. I don't even like the center-mount gauge clusters that came in some sub-compacts (older Yaris & mini cooper). I spec'd out a Model Y (DM AWD LR) and a Mach-E (Premium ER AWD) and they were within $700 of each other, I know that the Mach-E still qualifies for the full Federal Tax credit, which honestly that combined with the better interior (and likely better build quality) I had made my decision, but when I found out I couldn't tow anything with it, I started looking at ICE/hybrid crossovers, and the Ridgeline (again). The Range of the Y & Mach-E ER are good enough for me, but they have shortcomings that take them off the table completely. Neither one will be cheaper for me to own than a comparable ICE/Hybrid vehicle; I'm not willing to pay more to get less just to say I have an EV. The only "Tech" that matters to me in an EV is the driveline (batteries, motors, controllers, etc.) the functional make it go stuff; Tesla is still well at the head of the pack here, Ford is closing that gap but they are still years behind. ICE/Hybrid crossovers aren't exactly the most engaging "drivers cars" so an EV would fit well here as a utility-focused vehicle that I don't really care about outside of A to B family/house stuff, would also free up a spot in the driveway for something fun (V8, manual, RWD, possibly drop top). I'm not looking to buy "right now" I always to try to keep myself out of the position of "needing" a vehicle, but I don't want to drag my feet for too long, as it just inconveniences me by not having something that can do these tasks that lives in my own driveway, I have access to a Ridgeline whenever I want it, but I have to go pick it up and bring it back after I'm done, and it's someone else's vehicle so if I f*** it up I will feel bad. Last edited by Sid03SVT; 07-30-2021 at 11:23 AM. |
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07-30-2021, 11:34 AM | #3555 | |
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07-30-2021, 11:42 AM | #3556 | |
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07-30-2021, 11:43 AM | #3557 | |
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Hyundai Ioniq is a no-go already based solely on the exterior colors shown, at least the Kia has one Acceptable color in "Urban yellow", but the interior shots are a couple steps in the wrong direction as far as physical controls go, but definitely better than the Y. When they become available/configurable they will make the list but not until then. |
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07-30-2021, 12:31 PM | #3558 | |
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Tesla has a Model S Plaid at the ring so I assume they will run it as soon as they open it. With Tesla opening Giga Berlin later this year they are going to be at the ring way more often than before. For $80k+ as tested in that video the Taycan should come with gold plated buttons. |
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07-30-2021, 01:19 PM | #3559 | |
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And will last longer without Falling apart If you care about such things more than an imaginary lap time you cannot ever hope to duplicate |
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07-30-2021, 01:47 PM | #3560 |
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07-30-2021, 02:36 PM | #3561 | |
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All cars have issues and your perception about Tesla is wrong and fueled by the media. Maybe you can get a German assembled Model Y next year . https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/fo...calls-tsbs.15/ Last edited by juanmedina; 07-30-2021 at 02:44 PM. |
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07-30-2021, 04:43 PM | #3562 | |
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I finally just had to turn to the ignore list. The fanboy bs is completely out of control. I'm all for reading up on car news, even Tethla, but f me. |
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https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...v-of-the-year/ A few tidbits. Note only three of the EV's tested had any issues. I wonder which ones? Quote:
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07-31-2021, 09:26 PM | #3564 | |
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*waits for “fake news media is out to get Tesla” response * |
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07-31-2021, 09:28 PM | #3565 | |
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We have some people talking about how their Leaf is the **** and how the world is so unfair and this are toys for the rich . This junk will become the best seller car in the world by revenue very soon and in a few years the best seller by volume. If the issues that your posted were critical and wide spread there would be recalls. I just know we have two 2018 model 3's one with zero issues and the other with minor issues fixed on my driveway, tail light condensation, rattle and charge port door getting stuck from time time. My Lexus and Subaru had way more serious issues than the Tesla's and not covered by a warranty. My next car will be a Tesla and I am also scheduled to test drive the Lucid Air just because I like to keep my eyes open. I would not be buying another Tesla if they were a bad car. I put my money where my month is and maybe I just have been lucky with my cars and the people that I know that have Tesla's. |
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07-31-2021, 10:16 PM | #3566 |
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Somebody has their jimmies in a rustle. Calm down dude, it's just a car, it's not your child or wife we're talking about. Good lord man.
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07-31-2021, 11:04 PM | #3567 |
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08-01-2021, 02:18 AM | #3568 | |
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https://www.scientology.org/ All I need now is for 4S to post a Tom Cruise jumping on the chair Oprah .gif and I'm all f'in set brah! |
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08-01-2021, 02:36 AM | #3569 | |
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08-01-2021, 03:09 AM | #3570 | |
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It just works for some of us for local transpo. To me at least, EV = something like a Honda Fit EV type deal. Inexpensive, DD, beater. For 50k an EV better be DATY, and the GFE. Otherwise for my 50k I’m buying ICE/6MT. The funny thing is I’ve driven a number of Tethlas. I’ll admit in a straight line, only thing comparable I’ve driven is a MP4-12C. Ridden in a relatively new 911 turbo, or one of my bikes sending it every weekend. Get the things in the turns though and the boat comes out, heavy AF. They are a one trick pony to me. I care zero about ADAS, loathe it in fact, ACC included. Just fast AF in a straight line, not much else and it’s a soulless appliance at that. That’s cool and all but I could teach a chimp how to drive one fast in a straight line. One thing is fo sho. The big players are coming for dat @$$. Ford just hit them with strike one. Much mo to come. |
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08-01-2021, 03:22 AM | #3571 |
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Yeah, but nearly 11's out of a 39. They said it could not be done.
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08-01-2021, 09:29 AM | #3572 | |
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Also, I think you should go to you local autocross and see how many Tesla's are running and how well they are doing. You will be surprised. |
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08-01-2021, 10:57 AM | #3573 | |
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Dude, the world is big enough for lots of companies to thrive. No one here is wishing Tesla to fail nor saying they will. That discussion ended nearly 2 years ago but you’re still beating that drum alone. It’s a car company, relax. You get so uppity about posts that I get concerned you might have an aneurism. |
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08-03-2021, 01:13 PM | #3574 | |
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08-05-2021, 07:47 AM | #3575 | |
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