2024 Acura Integra Type S: 320HP - Page 4

heavyD · 05-08-2023, 09:50 AM

As with the CTR it's a good car but it's still a Honda Civic at the end of the day and the FWD roots always rear its head when trying to put power when the temperatures aren't hot. I see the argument for the Civic Type R heritage but I don't see it for this car.

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Kostamojen · 06-07-2023, 07:26 PM

Oooh white with bronze looks nice!

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GALBEROS · 06-08-2023, 09:58 AM

Those tacked on rear fender flares are wack. CTR for the win.

SubaDuba420 · 06-15-2023, 04:15 AM

19% of Acura Integras have been sold with a manual transmission
That's nearly as many sales as the entire BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe lineup
https://www.autoblog.com/2023/06/12/...-manual-sales/

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While you'll need to wait another week to read our review of the upcoming 2024 Acura Integra Type S, there is a nice little nugget of information we can share in the meantime. Between May 2022 and April 2023, Acura reports that it sold 19,643 Integras. According to the figures Acura shared, so grain of salt, that is grossly more than other entry-level luxury sedans: the Audi A3 (8,866), Mercedes-Benz CLA (6,656) and BMW 2 Series Gran Coupe (3,913). Update: Acura confirmed to us since this was originally posted that the A3 numbers also includes S3 and RS 3.

The thing that most piqued our interest, however, was Acura saying that 19% of those 19,643 Integras came with the six-speed manual transmission. Now, that's a colossal change from the earliest days of Integra orders when the manual take-rate was hovering around 70%. Clearly, late adopters weren't as eager to row their own. It's also important to note that the manual is exclusively tied to the loaded A-Spec with Technology package, so it's effectively a pricey option.

While 19% — roughly 3,732 units — may not seem like a lot, it's actually not bad these days, and not that far off the entire 2 Series Gran Coupe lineup. That number is also about to go up since the Type S is exclusively available with a six-speed manual.

Kostamojen · 06-19-2023, 11:21 AM

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chanomatik · 06-19-2023, 08:09 PM

The Savagegeese video is VERY informative. I do like the ITS over the CTR, but both are Unobtanium.

Kostamojen · 06-19-2023, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik

The Savagegeese video is VERY informative. I do like the ITS over the CTR, but both are Unobtanium.

I was surprised how positive ALL the reviews are.

OldBlu · 06-20-2023, 08:50 AM

I think if Acura offered the manual A-spec with a detuned 2.0t (like the previous Accord) instead of the 1.5t but for the same price, that would be the sweet spot for me in terms of what Honda and Acura offer.

I'd be more tempted by the Si if they offered a hatch and maybe a couple more options. And the Acura in any current trim just doesn't quite justify the upcharge for me.

torquemada · 06-20-2023, 10:34 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRe2sxx4k4

edkwon · 06-20-2023, 12:57 PM

Sounds like the general gestalt of the ITS reviews are:as amazing the CTR is on the track, the ITS is the superior road car driving experience...

I'm laughing at how the Smoking Tire review repeatedly insists that they are NOT comparing the ITS to the CTR

Sid03SVT · 06-20-2023, 01:41 PM

I like the looks of the ITS more than the CTR, it has more creature features like heated seats that frankly I'm surprised the CTR doesn't come with; I'm equally surprised the ITS doesn't have ventilated seats though.

Is it worth the $7k price bump? can't weigh in, I don't do FWD, nor am I loyal to any particular vehicle brand, so the badge on the front doesn't matter as much as what's under the skin. To someone who is fine with FWD and wants a 6mt hot hatch, the pickings are slim, but the pickings are slim in every niche category at this point, so maybe?

I wonder if the springs and dampers from the ITS are a direct fit/bolt in on the CTR; the extra 0.4" of track width could be down to wheel offsets honestly, that's only 5mm on each side, so going from a +60mm to +55mm offset (pretty sure the 2023 CTR is 19x9.5 +60mm) will give the CTR the same track width as the ITS.

The lack of Phoenix Yellow is baffling, I've seen it in renders, don't know if those were official or not though; maybe they are saving it for a special edition/trim/whatever.

edkwon · 06-20-2023, 01:56 PM

Sunglasses holder, +1 for the ITS

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Sid03SVT · 06-20-2023, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by edkwon

Sunglasses holder, +1 for the ITS

Why are you putting sunglasses in your taco holder?

edkwon · 06-20-2023, 02:38 PM

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Why are you putting sunglasses in your taco holder?

Because I eat real tacos and not those hard shell things?

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dwf137 · 06-20-2023, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

The lack of Phoenix Yellow is baffling, I've seen it in renders, don't know if those were official or not though; maybe they are saving it for a special edition/trim/whatever.

leaving room for a type R?

hi5.0 · 06-21-2023, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid03SVT

I wonder if the springs and dampers from the ITS are a direct fit/bolt in on the CTR; the extra 0.4" of track width could be down to wheel offsets honestly, that's only 5mm on each side, so going from a +60mm to +55mm offset (pretty sure the 2023 CTR is 19x9.5 +60mm) will give the CTR the same track width as the ITS.

No, because they are TOTALLY DIFFERENT CARS! (See Smoking Tire video )

If so, it could become a popular parts swap. Betting the wheels from the ITS will find its way onto more than a few CTRs.

samagon · 06-21-2023, 03:14 PM

watch the CTR and ITS be geometrically identical suspension setups with just 5mm wheel spacers.

and here's the only real comparison we get between the two suspensions.

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not a lot to go on from a technical perspective that hasn't been scripted (or approved) by marketing people.

samagon · 06-21-2023, 03:14 PM

sway bar size is hugely different though. 2.9cm vs 29mm.

Sid03SVT · 06-22-2023, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by edkwon

Because I eat real tacos and not those hard shell things?

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You must be fun at parties.

edkwon · 06-22-2023, 01:36 PM

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You must be fun at parties.

The classic default response when all the other clever options have been exhausted?

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Kostamojen · 06-22-2023, 06:45 PM

There is plenty of room in this world for both soft AND hard tacos! Don't discriminate tacos!!!

Anyway...

Test drove the Type-S today after I found out from a friend/former employee that the local Acura has a "Demo" car for the next month or two. I've never driven a Civic Type-R so I figured why not.

Likes:

Ride is quite good, great ballance between sporty yet comfy.
Steering is spot on.
Drives smaller than it actually is.
Has lift oversteer that feels great.
Power is good, feels about as fast as my STI Type-RA did prior to its tune.
Exhaust note is excellent!

Dislikes:

Its too big.
Interior is too cheap for over $50k.
Seats are terrible! No bolstering at all

Our Macan has waaaay better seats.
Don't like the heads up display.
Shifter was terrible, couldn't find first gear several times.
The Auto rev match is terrible, first time I've driven a car with it and it kept revving the hell out of the engine when I was trying to downshift to first while rolling! Ugg...
Same price as a TSX Type-S which is a way better car, liked the interior and seats in the TSX 10x better.

Dealer said no waitlist, first come first serve only. Probably $5-10k markup.

Overall I would buy the Civic over the Integra for sure, mostly just for the better seat bolstering and cleaner looks of the Civic. I didn't care much for the Integra in person inside or out, I don't think it will age well unlike the new Type-R.

My friends video about his test drive at the same dealer:

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chanomatik · 06-22-2023, 07:34 PM

All the reviews of Civic Si, CTR and ITS love the shifter though!

I always wonder about Subaru vs Honda when it comes to shifter feel. My observation has been that Subaru guys tend to not like Honda shifters, and Honda guys don't like Subaru shifters.

And Subaru guys don't like Subaru shifters.

bemani · 06-22-2023, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Test drove the Type-S today after I found out from a friend/former employee that the local Acura has a "Demo" car for the next month or two. I've never driven a Civic Type-R so I figured why not.

Probably $5-10k markup.

Niello or Elk Grove?

$60k is less than what the local Honda dealer asked for the CTR.

Kostamojen · 06-22-2023, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik

All the reviews of Civic Si, CTR and ITS love the shifter though!

I always wonder about Subaru vs Honda when it comes to shifter feel. My observation has been that Subaru guys tend to not like Honda shifters, and Honda guys don't like Subaru shifters.

And Subaru guys don't like Subaru shifters.

Height wise it was a bit short. I like the shifter in the EP3 in comparison. First gear was the big issue for some reason, 5 or 6 times didn't get it into first gear.

I test drove this IMMEDIATELY after the Type-S:

Never drove an ND Miata before and really wanted a pallet cleanser after the Type-S.

Slipped into the Miata like a glove. Even the base seats had better bolstering. The shifter was perfect, the car drove exactly how I wanted too. I would buy one over a BRZ/GR86 I think, especially due to availability and the SCCA discount I could get.

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Niello or Elk Grove?

$60k is less than what the local Honda dealer asked for the CTR.

Niello. Ya, might find one for less than a CTR but I get a TSX Type-S instead at the same dealer. So much nicer of a car for the same money.

impreza_al · 06-22-2023, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kostamojen

Niello. Ya, might find one for less than a CTR but I get a TSX Type-S instead at the same dealer. So much nicer of a car for the same money.

This right here.

It’ll be interesting what we’ll see more on the road.

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edkwon Scooby Specialist Member#: 453 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: *23567;12373;12356;* Vehicle: 2020 Kia Telluride 2021 Porsche Taycan	Sounds like the general gestalt of the ITS reviews are:as amazing the CTR is on the track, the ITS is the superior road car driving experience... I'm laughing at how the Smoking Tire review repeatedly insists that they are NOT comparing the ITS to the CTR Last edited by edkwon; 06-20-2023 at 01:10 PM.

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05-08-2023, 09:50 AM	#76
heavyD Scooby Specialist Member#: 194216 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: W. Canada Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Vehicle: 2022 Fast POS	As with the CTR it's a good car but it's still a Honda Civic at the end of the day and the FWD roots always rear its head when trying to put power when the temperatures aren't hot. I see the argument for the Civic Type R heritage but I don't see it for this car. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

06-08-2023, 09:58 AM	#78
GALBEROS Scooby Newbie Member#: 446096 Join Date: May 2016 Vehicle: 2018 6MT 2.0T Accord Prior-MB GLE/13WRX/06STI	Those tacked on rear fender flares are wack. CTR for the win.

06-19-2023, 08:09 PM	#81
chanomatik Scooby Guru Member#: 159474 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Northbridge, MA Vehicle: 2017 Impreza Sport Lithium Red - OLDKID	The Savagegeese video is VERY informative. I do like the ITS over the CTR, but both are Unobtanium.

06-20-2023, 08:50 AM	#83
OldBlu Scooby Newbie Member#: 527735 Join Date: Dec 2021	I think if Acura offered the manual A-spec with a detuned 2.0t (like the previous Accord) instead of the 1.5t but for the same price, that would be the sweet spot for me in terms of what Honda and Acura offer. I'd be more tempted by the Si if they offered a hatch and maybe a couple more options. And the Acura in any current trim just doesn't quite justify the upcharge for me.

06-20-2023, 01:41 PM	#86
Sid03SVT Scooby Specialist Member#: 183032 Join Date: Jun 2008 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: CT Vehicle: RWD Camry Pull me over red	I like the looks of the ITS more than the CTR, it has more creature features like heated seats that frankly I'm surprised the CTR doesn't come with; I'm equally surprised the ITS doesn't have ventilated seats though. Is it worth the $7k price bump? can't weigh in, I don't do FWD, nor am I loyal to any particular vehicle brand, so the badge on the front doesn't matter as much as what's under the skin. To someone who is fine with FWD and wants a 6mt hot hatch, the pickings are slim, but the pickings are slim in every niche category at this point, so maybe? I wonder if the springs and dampers from the ITS are a direct fit/bolt in on the CTR; the extra 0.4" of track width could be down to wheel offsets honestly, that's only 5mm on each side, so going from a +60mm to +55mm offset (pretty sure the 2023 CTR is 19x9.5 +60mm) will give the CTR the same track width as the ITS. The lack of Phoenix Yellow is baffling, I've seen it in renders, don't know if those were official or not though; maybe they are saving it for a special edition/trim/whatever.

06-20-2023, 01:56 PM	#87
edkwon Scooby Specialist Member#: 453 Join Date: Oct 1999 Location: *23567;12373;12356;* Vehicle: 2020 Kia Telluride 2021 Porsche Taycan	Sunglasses holder, +1 for the ITS Sent from my KB2005 using Tapatalk

06-21-2023, 03:14 PM	#93
samagon Scooby Guru Member#: 26859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: undisputed COMBAT! champion Vehicle: of TXIC I also like (oYo)!!!!	sway bar size is hugely different though. 2.9cm vs 29mm.

06-22-2023, 07:34 PM	#97
chanomatik Scooby Guru Member#: 159474 Join Date: Sep 2007 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Northbridge, MA Vehicle: 2017 Impreza Sport Lithium Red - OLDKID	All the reviews of Civic Si, CTR and ITS love the shifter though! I always wonder about Subaru vs Honda when it comes to shifter feel. My observation has been that Subaru guys tend to not like Honda shifters, and Honda guys don't like Subaru shifters. And Subaru guys don't like Subaru shifters.