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Old 07-13-2021, 04:22 PM   #26
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Not to mention I don't think I could ever be excited about a high performance Hyundai Elantra.

I generally don't consider myself to be a badge snob, but I have my limits. At least the Veloster was always interesting and has a cool name. If the N was a true 5 door with AWD I would have given it a shot.

I'm not just discriminating against Hyundai either. I could also never see myself in a Camry "TRD" or the Ford Fusion ST. They really need to N-ify the Stinger. I think that will be a hit.
I love the i30N. i20N is pretty sweet too. So I've nothing against Hyundai just don't like what they choose to offer in the US.

And offering the Kona N without AWD in the US is a real head scratcher. Good luck selling a FWD performance mini SUV in the US.
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Old 07-14-2021, 09:09 AM   #27
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I am wondering if they will offer an Ioniq N.

Just need to use the same stuff as the EV6 GT.
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Old 07-14-2021, 10:50 AM   #28
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I love the i30N. i20N is pretty sweet too. So I've nothing against Hyundai just don't like what they choose to offer in the US.

And offering the Kona N without AWD in the US is a real head scratcher. Good luck selling a FWD performance mini SUV in the US.
The i30N is gorgeous. Too bad it's not offered here. This Elantra is looking nice. Interior looks good, engine specs look good, 6 speed manual offering, Brakes look fantastic. The eLSD seems to be the only negative here. I see this more of a competition for the Civic SI, not the Type R. I'd consider this for a daily. Now what's the MSRP.
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Old 07-14-2021, 11:30 AM   #29
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The little four-pot will produce 276 hp and 289 lb-ft of torque. Either a six-speed manual transmission and an eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission will be available
So why the no 290 hp?
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Old 07-14-2021, 01:31 PM   #30
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The eLSD seems to be the only negative here.
It has the same diff as the i30N. It's not a brake-based eLSD as some call it, like on a non-M BMW.

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Old 07-14-2021, 01:59 PM   #31
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The eLSD seems to be the only negative here.
Those are the future. All the higher performance Camaros and current Corvettes feature high performance eLSD setups and people love them. They're not the same **** that they stick on cheap cars to avoid having to pay for a Torsen.

That's not to say that this one isn't cheap ****. This is a Hyundai...
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Old 07-14-2021, 04:51 PM   #32
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The i30N is gorgeous. Too bad it's not offered here. This Elantra is looking nice. Interior looks good, engine specs look good, 6 speed manual offering, Brakes look fantastic. The eLSD seems to be the only negative here. I see this more of a competition for the Civic SI, not the Type R. I'd consider this for a daily. Now what's the MSRP.
The i30N would probably eat into Veloster sales too much. I imagine I'm not the only person who can't get past the asymmetric pillar layout and who would prefer the i30N instead.
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Old 07-14-2021, 05:02 PM   #33
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The i30N would probably eat into Veloster sales too much. I imagine I'm not the only person who can't get past the asymmetric pillar layout and who would prefer the i30N instead.
I think Elantra GT sales were so poor they decided to stick with a sedan. I guess hatchbacks just aren't popular enough. But I think the i30N fastback would sell here. Maybe if the Kona N flops we'll get the Fastback.

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Old 07-14-2021, 11:11 PM   #34
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Funny enough, I have seen quite a few meets with the Elantra GT. Even see three/four of them making at run up in the mountains. It's got a burble tune on the exhaust, it's not such a bad looking car. The stigma with Hyundai ownership is still there.

I am definitely willing to look at this thing as a daily, all depending on lease numbers to be honest.
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Old 08-19-2021, 02:23 PM   #35
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2022 Hyundai Elantra N debuts for U.S. with 276 hp and manual transmission

https://www.autoblog.com/2021/08/19/...ra-n-us-debut/

The 2022 Hyundai Elantra N was supposed to be making its grand North American debut at the New York Auto Show this week, but with that being canceled late in the game, Hyundai has taken the virtual approach once more.

We've already seen this car and know virtually all the necessary details, so today is more about checking out the new photos and confirming North American specs and features. The initial set of photos showed the Elantra N in Hyundai's Performance Blue paint, but these images reveal it in white. The white paint only highlights its giant maw further. The design changes between the standard Elantra and the N still look rather dramatic in these new photos, and we'll reserve final aesthetic judgement for inspecting the new styling in person.

As for the important stuff, Hyundai confirmed the 2.0-liter turbocharged four-cylinder and its 276 horsepower and 289 pound-feet of torque. Pressing the "N Grin Shift" button boosts that up to 286 horsepower for 20 seconds at a time by increasing boost pressure. Hyundai says the interval time between presses is only 40 seconds, so you could theoretically use it on every lap when on a track. You'll need to spec the eight-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission to get the N Grin Shift power, though, as it's not available with the standard six-speed manual.

We wish we could share more details like price, fuel economy and specific availability, but Hyundai has left these vital details out of its North American debut today. Instead, we can just confirm that everything you read about in the car's international release carries over to the U.S.-spec car.

Hyundai fits an electronic limited-slip differential to properly wrangle the power up front. It gets fairly large brakes (14.2-inch rotors in front) with high-friction pads - Hyundai even modified the brake dust covers for greater cooling capacity instead of dust blockage. We can also confirm that all Elantra Ns will be fitted with a mechanical parking brake, not an electronic one. Hallelujah to sick winter drifts.

The chassis and suspension is fully worked over for N duties. Hyundai integrates the drive shaft, wheel hub and bearing into one piece for a stronger, lighter driveline. New, stiffer bushings are used throughout the suspension, and Hyundai says use of a dual-compound insulator on the front suspension helps handling and NVH. Extra bracing is used front-to-rear for better rigidity, and you'll actually see one of the extra stiffening bars painted red in the trunk. And of course, Hyundai uses electronically-controlled adaptive dampers to adjust your damping on the fly.


There isn't a whole lot going on with aero, but Hyundai promises the rear wing improves stability in and out of corners. It also has greater underbody coverage to improve aerodynamics. You can go with the standard, enhanced N seat, but Hyundai will also be offering an "N light bucket seat" optionally that is thinner and lowers the seating position by 10 mm.

Hyundai also confirmed for us that the Elantra N will get a suite of driver assistance systems. The big ones include blind spot warning (w/collision avoidance assist), rear cross-traffic alert (also w/avoidance assist), forward collision avoidance, lane-keeping, lane-following (keeps car centered in lane) and auto high beams.

The last little tidbit we'll drop on you today concerns a new slogan from Hyundai N. It's simple: "Never just drive." That one's fairly self explanatory, and it works well with the products Hyundai N has put out. As for this Elantra N, we're still not totally certain when it's going to officially go on sale. Stay tuned, though, because it can't be too much longer.



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Old 08-19-2021, 02:27 PM   #36
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Boy paintless dent repair would be bitch on front doors
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Old 08-19-2021, 03:06 PM   #37
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That front end looks like one of those men that grow the perfect 5 o'clock shadow that grows from their upper cheeks down.
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Old 08-19-2021, 03:13 PM   #38
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I like it way more than the Veloster or Kona. Would seriously have to consider the Elantra N if I were shopping.
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Old 08-19-2021, 03:13 PM   #39
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Wonder if this has more HP or the 2022 WRX has more HP. hmmmm
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Wonder how it looks like in person.
The current model is jut horrific. That huge overhang on the back side, tiny wheels on large wells, that droopy face.
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Old 08-19-2021, 07:34 PM   #41
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Manual gets no moonroof and 110 lbs lighter , it’s near perfect on paper for me, but I hate the styling.

Leaning toward 11th gen Type R.
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Those things on the doors are not decals?
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Wonder if this has more HP or the 2022 WRX has more HP. hmmmm
Probably about the same.
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Cant tell from the pic. Is the front end abs plastic black or painted black. If its abs, I cant imagine keeping it long term and dealing with that much faded black plastic.
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If you don't like the Hyundai version, get the Kia version.

I bought my Kia Cadenza (basically identical to the Hyundai Azera) because it looked better to me.
The Kia K5 looks better to me than the Sonata - same basic car, very different looks.
The K5 GT & Sonata N are spec'd the same (though one tester shows the K5 having a very slight performance edge)

What's the Kia equivalent to the Elantra? Forte? The 2022 Forte GT will have the same specs but be better looking.

It's nice to have options.
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I have no words for the ugly of that car. Wow, if ICE cars are going to look like that, I will have to adopt EV sooner.
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Love the concept of it, but the new Elantra is fugly and the boy racer N sport accents aren't helping it look any better.
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Old 08-20-2021, 05:27 PM   #48
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What's the Kia equivalent to the Elantra? Forte? The 2022 Forte GT will have the same specs but be better looking.

It's nice to have options.
There is no Kia version of this car. The GT was 200 hp and will remain so.
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There is no Kia version of this car. The GT was 200 hp and will remain so.
Maybe not yet. Give them time.
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I like it way more than the Veloster or Kona. Would seriously have to consider the Elantra N if I were shopping.
Boy Brian Wong from Motor Authority made a strong favorable comment. I want Drive one. His comment below. I'll throw review too

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