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Old 04-25-2023, 07:45 PM   #1
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Default Nissan to end sedan production in Japan. All hail the CUV/SUV craze!

SOURCE: https://www.driven.co.nz/news/end-of...ion-for-japan/

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It was once one of the most familiar car bodies on the roads, but a decision in Japan appears to be yet another sign of the slow death for the one-time family favourite auto the classic four-door sedan.

It has been reported that car giant Nissan has said it will end development of all new sedans for its home market. It comes after US firm Ford also dropped sedans in many of its major markets.

Japanese newspaper Nikkei said major suppliers had been informed of the plans on Friday but the company itself has given no official comment.

Nissan currently has four sedans available in Japan including the venerable Skyline model which has featured in the line-up since 1957.
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Old 04-26-2023, 09:27 AM   #2
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not shocked, but this trend will reverse eventually. Will be worth a chuckle or two when sedans are the new hot item.
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Old 04-26-2023, 10:49 AM   #3
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This is a pretty misleading article/thread title

It says Nissan is going to end sedan production for Japan only. The only sedan that Japan gets right now is the skyline (Q50), but there are tons of hatchbacks that aren't getting the axe, they're not only producing CUV's.

The reality is that people don't like sedans, they're even falling out of style here.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:01 PM   #4
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no doubt, I really do not want one at the moment, but tastes can be fickle and subject to change. Even mine. At one point I hated trucks more than Pre, now I own a RAM. Go figure.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:10 PM   #5
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As someone with a sedan, I still miss my wagon. Wagon>Hatch>Sedan.
I don't want a truck, but as a homeowner, it would be nice to have one, thankfully I have access to one more-or-less whenever I need it.
My wife's CUV is nice to have, I hate driving it, but it's good at what it does, haul people and stuff around, and it runs in EV mode most of the time, which is nice.

If there isn't enough demand in a market for a "thing" it goes away.
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:42 PM   #6
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As someone with a sedan, I still miss my wagon. Wagon>Hatch>Sedan.
I don't want a truck, but as a homeowner, it would be nice to have one, thankfully I have access to one more-or-less whenever I need it.
My wife's CUV is nice to have, I hate driving it, but it's good at what it does, haul people and stuff around, and it runs in EV mode most of the time, which is nice.

If there isn't enough demand in a market for a "thing" it goes away.
In a pure supply demand market that is so true, but we are in a world where politics infects all and fingers are definitely on scales these days.
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:00 PM   #7
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Hey this is the correct solution for climate change, larger heavier vehichles where you can move more people more fuel efficiently with less carbon emissions in a carpool lane.

Has nothing to do with demand, eco responsible nissan makes decions based on the demands of mother earth.
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:01 PM   #8
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^^^LOLOLOL...

wait are you serious. just about every SUV on the road has exactly 1 passenger most of the time.
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^^^LOLOLOL...

wait are you serious. just about every SUV on the road has exactly 1 passenger most of the time.
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Deadly serious, we only have one earth.
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As someone with a sedan, I still miss my wagon. Wagon>Hatch>Sedan.
I don't want a truck, but as a homeowner, it would be nice to have one, thankfully I have access to one more-or-less whenever I need it.
My wife's CUV is nice to have, I hate driving it, but it's good at what it does, haul people and stuff around, and it runs in EV mode most of the time, which is nice.

If there isn't enough demand in a market for a "thing" it goes away.
I don't want a truck. it's not at all practical, but they do have their uses once a year.

my parents bought my daughter an outdoor playset (well, they gave us money and said go use this on an outdoor playset), we found a really great buy at Costco. I measured the 5 boxes, no way it's fitting in my Corolla, or the Outback, and no, even if we took both it wasn't going to fit half/half.

U-Haul set me up in a 15' box van with an easy load ramp which allowed me to use my dolly (plus a ratchet strap) at home to get everything out of it as a 1 man show. the size was way overkill, but it was what they had available when I needed it cause I didn't rent ahead of time.

$50 for 2 hours for way more than what I needed. for the once a year need of a truck, I can't justify buying a truck as a full time vehicle, never mind the depression I would suffer from having to drive it day in day out.

anyway, yeah, you don't need to justify buying a truck for 1 or 2 time a year needs, I mean, if I have room in the garage for a 3rd vehicle, then maybe, but no way I'd justify owning a truck just because I'm a homeowner. and actually, if I do have room for a 3rd vehicle, it's going to be a ratty old jeep wrangler for funning about on the beach, I'll toss a trailer hitch on it and rent a trailer from U-haul for the bigger needs.

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Deadly serious, we only have one earth.
it's ok, as was mentioned, most SUVs only have 1 occupant. so it works out.

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Old 04-26-2023, 02:21 PM   #12
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yup, not all things fit all people and I would never suggest it should. We all have different lives. Which is just fantastic with me.
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it's ok, as was mentioned, most SUVs only have 1 occupant. so it works out.
*cries in eco mode*
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This article is about the Japanese market.

The largest CUV that Japan gets is their equivalent of a Rogue, and it's a hybrid. The only other CUV they get is the Juke and the all electric aryia. The rest of their vehicles are hatchbacks, vans, and the sports cars... They lost one car. Just one. They don't get all of the other sedans that we have here, and there's no indication that production of those vehicles will stop for the US market.

ah whatever, yall just want a reason to bitch and moan.
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Old 04-26-2023, 04:00 PM   #15
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I don't want a truck. it's not at all practical, but they do have their uses once a year.

my parents bought my daughter an outdoor playset (well, they gave us money and said go use this on an outdoor playset), we found a really great buy at Costco. I measured the 5 boxes, no way it's fitting in my Corolla, or the Outback, and no, even if we took both it wasn't going to fit half/half.


Never say never! And YES... that is a Costco set... and my buddy was in the passenger seat. Riding on the bump stops in the rear, but the Costco is a 15 minute drive from me on quiet roads. You can't see it in the picture, but everything was strapped down inside as well, and this was just after I removed the red flag from the back.

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that's a lot more ambitious than I was willing to be!

and those are the second best looking stock wheels that Subaru had, behind the V7 STI wheels, well done.
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since I won the doublepost lottery, how is the set holding up, specifically the contact points with the ground?

I'm thinking of getting some pressure treated 2x6 to put under everything so that the pressure treated wood is sitting on the ground, rather than the set itself, anchoring the 2x6 to the ground, and then anchoring the set to the 2x6.

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just here again to say much respect for using that wagon boy!
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that's a lot more ambitious than I was willing to be!

and those are the second best looking stock wheels that Subaru had, behind the V7 STI wheels, well done.
Wheels were from our 2001 Legacy Wagon, and I always thought they looked sharper on the Impreza. Summers for the Legacy were 2003 WRX rims... which I thought looked better on the Legacy.

That picture was from 2008. The set lasted quite well. Our's was treated western redwood, and I placed it on smallish patio stones (at the bases of the columns) to keep it off the soil. Drilled holes through the the patio stones for the anchors... but truth be told it was so heavy it wasn't going anywhere. Certain pieces did show some rot after about 10 years. Specifically the bases of the ladder and rock wall. They were easy to replace though, and with some light sanding and stain it looked like new. For us a bigger problem became carpenter bees which started to chew through a few bits.

We moved that set to our next house as well. I just unbolted the swing section and slide, then lifted the main portion with my engine hoist and put it on my trailer. Easy peasy. I sold the set 2 years ago for $200 less that we paid origionally. They have gone up in price tremendously, so the new owners were pleased as punch. They replaced 3 pieces of wood and restained it again. In the pictures they sent me it looked brand new. Moral of the story is the set will last decades with just a little bit of care.

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Never say never! And YES... that is a Costco set... and my buddy was in the passenger seat. Riding on the bump stops in the rear, but the Costco is a 15 minute drive from me on quiet roads. You can't see it in the picture, but everything was strapped down inside as well, and this was just after I removed the red flag from the back.

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Best I've done was this beermeister. I would love a true wagon one of these days! Later in the day the towels I used to cover the casters came off and ripped up some of the rear tint which I still haven't fixed whoops.

edit: it did go all of the way in after the pic.
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That picture was from 2008. The set lasted quite well. Our's was treated western redwood, and I placed it on smallish patio stones (at the bases of the columns) to keep it off the soil. Drilled holes through the the patio stones for the anchors
Very cool. Patio stones are a good idea too. Appreciate the feedback!
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Ya think Nissan will use the Tennessee $2.3 billion mega battery factory taxpayers bought ? Or was it just another fraud FISKER deal ? Where did all the green sprouts money go ?
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People rag on EV's but SUV's are the plague of the automobile industry where more expensive and worse performing vehicles in every way became the norm. Roads and parking lost just full of inefficient, overpriced, generic, rolling boxes.
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you are back to a straw man argument. You are saying people bought something they did not absolutely need. That is a non starter. They bought what they wanted and I am happy people have a choice. Neither you nor I have a right to tell others what they can buy. I do not want an EV ever, but if you do, I am happy for you. Your reasons are yours. Not mine. You are fully entitled to your own set of values.

Same with SUV / CUV people....
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you are back to a straw man argument. You are saying people bought something they did not absolutely need. That is a non starter. They bought what they wanted and I am happy people have a choice. Neither you nor I have a right to tell others what they can buy. I do not want an EV ever, but if you do, I am happy for you. Your reasons are yours. Not mine. You are fully entitled to your own set of values.

Same with SUV / CUV people....
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