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Old 11-01-2013, 01:44 PM   #25126
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Don't be so dramatic; every car built usually had a few quirks, and any car that happens to be modded and raced adds additional stress. If the car has an enthusiast type following (the guy driving his wrx probably cares more about his car than the guy driving a Tercel), and you'll see more threads about the issue.
This^.... Weakpoints in the design and assembly of any car will be exposed when taken to the track, its the risk taken when driving your car as hard as possible (or modifying to create more power). Thats why being aware of what others expereinced is important to being informed and knowing your car, but it doesn't amount to jumping to conclusions that all our cars are doomed for failure and should give up cause the sky is falling.

One of the best examples I have seen is in the 997 GT3 (issue resolved I believe on later gen 2 RS models). These are cars built for track use off the showroom floor more than most all cars out there, but there is a little 90 deg coolant line that is notorious for bursting on hotter track days. Most guys who know this that will put the majority of the miles on their car at the track have them welded to ensure no failures under heavy thermal loads, but some do not resulting in nasty coolant spills (line is above the left rear tire on a 400+hp RWD/rear engined car, you do the math).

Lesson: No car is 100% fail proof when you drive your car hard

btw, sweet garage SLO_flat4! You have the right kind of engines in your cars haha!
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Old 11-01-2013, 01:53 PM   #25127
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pretty sure there were a bunch of stock block 300-400whp tC's running around a few years back

159hp to 400hp is 150% more than stock

K series engines can handle quite a bit of power as well

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Old 11-01-2013, 01:57 PM   #25128
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The block on TCs can handle it. The connecting rods and pistons fail starting at about 210 on. There were guys popping them with the TURD superchargers.

K series motors do handle more, but not a ton more and not without work.
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:13 PM   #25129
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btw, sweet garage SLO_flat4! You have the right kind of engines in your cars haha!
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pretty sure there were a bunch of stock block 300-400whp tC's running around a few years back

159hp to 400hp is 150% more than stock

K series engines can handle quite a bit of power as well
I honestly don't remember any very high horse TCs out in Southern California; most TCs were owned by the flatbill wearing brotatoes and just had springs, cheap wheels, and angled exhausts.

The K series is pretty good, it is not bulletproof. I know that the timing chain tensioner is usually a weak point in every K series (Honda has a TSB about it), and lets not forget the crappy 6 speed and even the auto is supposedly bad as well (although I didn't have an issue with mine). And high horse usually needed alot of modifications, and even then, most have had to rebuild the motor and use forged internals. Junior's MR build is still not done after he blew the motor.

The point is every car has its issues. Every car I have owned has different weakpoints highlighted on forums, and friends of mine have similar known issues with their cars (best friend has a 350z, and the VQs have their issues too). I try not to take too much stock in it though. Most of the Subaru issues I have seen here were either associated with the bad batch of 2009 WRXs (and were addressed by Subaru) or were from cars that have been modified/raced. My WRX is just a commuter, so I hope it remains trouble free
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:20 PM   #25130
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yes everything has weak points
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:23 PM   #25131
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yes everything has weak points
I guess my ultimate point is that it doesn't make sense to sell a car, and lose money in the process, on the fear that some random issue might pop up (referring to the guy that figured he should sell his car because best has an issue with his modded car).
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:26 PM   #25132
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Enough talk


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Old 11-01-2013, 02:29 PM   #25133
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Yeah but that's the way it goes with this stuff. Usually when people push a car to the point where it is a good deal faster than stock they play around with it for 6 months to a year, get bored or annoyed and then move on to something else. Almost always happens with engine swaps. Or if the person has money they just store it and move on to something else. Because the real fun is the building process not the final result. Because the final result is just your cheap car performing like an expensive car for possibly more money than the expensive car was in the first place lol.
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:32 PM   #25134
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Enough talk
Lol no one talks in the discussion thread and after 3 years of this thread we all know what lowered GR's with wheels and lips look like by now. So more talk lol
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:45 PM   #25135
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pretty sure there were a bunch of stock block 300-400whp tC's running around a few years back

159hp to 400hp is 150% more than stock

K series engines can handle quite a bit of power as well
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The block on TCs can handle it. The connecting rods and pistons fail starting at about 210 on. There were guys popping them with the TURD superchargers.

K series motors do handle more, but not a ton more and not without work.
I had a TC with the supercharger. Went from a stock 7psi pulley to 9.5psi pulley. Ran ok/safe in the higher elevations cause it stayed rich. I went to SoCal (sea level) one weekend and as soon as I got lower elevation... it go BOOM!! Snapped a couple rods.

I remember the company ZPI that used to turbo a lot of TC's. Don't know what happened to them though.
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:51 PM   #25136
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maybe what I remember is scion fanboys saying their tC's were fast lol

still K series are pretty strong

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Old 11-01-2013, 02:53 PM   #25137
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I like your effort lol
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:00 PM   #25138
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hey 302 whp and no cf hatch or label to tell us that its daily driven...that's weird
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:12 PM   #25139
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Last I checked this is a picture thread.

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Old 11-01-2013, 03:14 PM   #25140
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but we've seen everyone's car already and there is no chat thread

tell you what, give me an idea for a picture and I will post it.

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Old 11-01-2013, 03:17 PM   #25141
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100mph straight into a wall.

SHOOT A WATERMELON OUT OF YOUR MASSIVE STUPID EXHAUST TIPS!
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:22 PM   #25142
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I honestly don't remember any very high horse TCs out in Southern California; most TCs were owned by the flatbill wearing brotatoes and just had springs, cheap wheels, and angled exhausts.
meh i beg to differ on this one, almost every boosted tc1 with a dezod "stage1" turbo kit on just 8-9lbs were in the 341hp and about 325tq range, literally all of them, same with ptuning turbo kits. those cars could handle that power it seemed like, but they werent anymore reliable than the subaru with alittle bit of bolt ons etc,
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:23 PM   #25143
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^^sup brotato

BABAHAHAHAH
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:23 PM   #25144
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I had a TC with the supercharger. Went from a stock 7psi pulley to 9.5psi pulley. Ran ok/safe in the higher elevations cause it stayed rich. I went to SoCal (sea level) one weekend and as soon as I got lower elevation... it go BOOM!! Snapped a couple rods.

I remember the company ZPI that used to turbo a lot of TC's. Don't know what happened to them though.

lmfao ZPI, zpi went under bc they started stealing peoples money and not making kits lol.
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but we've seen everyone's car already and there is no chat thread tell you what, give me an idea for a picture and I will post it. ib4driveoffaclifforintotheriver
I wanna see a picture that depicts exactly how Obamacare supports the Subaru community and how both of these impact global warming lmao
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but we've seen everyone's car already and there is no chat thread

tell you what, give me an idea for a picture and I will post it.

ib4driveoffaclifforintotheriver
Like we really want to see vids of Civics or read you trolling people for poops and giggles

head to OT if you wanna chat
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Old 11-01-2013, 03:35 PM   #25147
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meh i beg to differ on this one, almost every boosted tc1 with a dezod "stage1" turbo kit on just 8-9lbs were in the 341hp and about 325tq range, literally all of them, same with ptuning turbo kits. those cars could handle that power it seemed like, but they werent anymore reliable than the subaru with alittle bit of bolt ons etc,
There could have been more heavily modified TCs out and about, but I didn't see them, and basic bolt on TCs were slower than my base Rsx. That is decent power though for just a turbo.
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why are our wheels so much closer to the front of the wheel well, that has always annoyed me
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