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Old 03-02-2018, 07:35 AM   #1
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With an eye on future electric motorcycle development, the Motor Company teams up with Alta Motors
Well this is quite a surprise, and a pleasant one too. Harley-Davidson just announced that it made an equity investment in California-based Alta Motors, makers of the Redshift. This surprise collaboration was put together so that the two bike companies can share notes and work on electric motorcycle technology and new product development.

DANGER: Harley-Davidson Promises an Electric Bike in 18 Months

"Earlier this year, as part of our 10-year strategy, we reiterated our commitment to build the next generation of Harley-Davidson riders, in part, by aggressively investing in electric vehicle (EV) technology," said Harley-Davidson President and CEO Matt Levatich. "Alta has demonstrated innovation and expertise in EV and their objectives align closely with ours. We each have strengths and capabilities that will be mutually beneficial as we work together to develop cutting-edge electric motorcycles."

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The fact that giant Harley took enough notice of little old Alta to invest in them says more about Alta than it does about the Motor Company. While not always the shrewdest company, Harley knows a good thing when it sees it. And, as we've discussed before, Alta's Redshift is seriously good. The brass over at Alta seems pretty tickled by the whole thing, as you might expect.

"Riders are just beginning to understand the combined benefits of EV today, and our technology continues to progress," said Alta Motors Chief Product Officer and Co-Founder, Marc Fenigstein. "We believe electric motorcycles are the future, and that American companies have an opportunity to lead that future. It's incredibly exciting that Harley-Davidson, synonymous with motorcycle leadership, shares that vision and we're thrilled to collaborate with them."

DANGER: Alta Motors Announces Hot New 2018 Redshift MXR

To paraphrase Diamond Joe Biden, this is a pretty big f***in' deal you guys. With Project Livewire back on track, and Alta's history of electronic motorcycle innovation, this collaboration promises to change the face of the growing electric bike business. Levatich thinks so, too.

"We believe that EV is where global mobility is headed and holds great appeal for existing riders as well as opportunity to bring new riders into the sport," said Levatich. "We intend to be the world leader in the electrification of motorcycles and, at the same time, remain true to our gas and oil roots by continuing to produce a broad portfolio of motorcycles that appeal to all types of riders around the world."

So, what's that mean for us? Hopefully it means a comprehensive, totally rad line of electric bikes from both companies and an energized (I see what you did there -JM) electric motorcycle market. Stay tuned for more about this in the future.



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Old 12-23-2018, 10:41 AM   #2
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The next two models will be branded with the Harley Davidson name? That means we will now have to pay for that name that Harley is so proud of. I think my plans for one just got moved out of my price range. Plus I was a test rider for Harley and I swore I'd never buy one.I heard this information from one of the investors - Tymur Artemyev

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Old 03-12-2019, 02:41 PM   #3
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When Harley unveiled the production-ready LiveWire electric bike at CES in early January, we were all focused on the Wisconsin brandís pricing strategy. With an MSRP of $29,799, and a whole lot of estimates, question marks, and TBAs when it came to the bikeís ultimate performance, we were forced to assume the worst. As it turns out, things are a bit better than we may have believed in January, but the bike is still hellaciously expensive.

According to Harley, it has finally performance tested and certified the LiveWire in production trim. The 0-60mph time was previously expected to be 3.5 seconds, but thatís been beat by a massive half-second, sitting at 3.0 now. The 60-80mph time is even more impressive at just 1.9 seconds. According to Cycle World, thatís way quicker than anything non-electric, including the legendary Suzuki Hayabusa and Triumphís Rocket III.

Acceleration was always going to be the LiveWireís strong suit. It was expected to fall short on range. While Harley still wonít say what size its battery stack is, it appears to be just a smidge smaller than that found in the new Zero SR/F. While the Zero manages 82 miles of 70-mph riding, the Harley falls short of that. It doesnít quote a full highway number, but somewhat misleadingly slaps an 88 mile number on a ďcombinedĒ city and highway. 140 miles of city range for the LiveWire isnít too bad, however.

So, the Harley is really quick. Itís not quite as quick as Kawasakiís supercharged H2, despite costing about the same money. For now, the fastest of gasoline motorcycles still outpace Harleyís electric, but itís closer than we thought.

Iím starting to come around on the price of the LiveWire, but itís still pretty expensive. Give it a few years and inexpensive electric bikes will start coming down the pike. For now, we have to rely on people to buy into the more expensive models, like the Livewire, to push companies to focus on making more of them. Iím ready for it.

https://jalopnik.com/harley-davidson...tte-1833187112
https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

Could be fun; I'll try anything twice.
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Old 03-13-2019, 07:17 AM   #4
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Does this mean the end for these douche nozzles and their overly loud bikes
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Does this mean the end for these douche nozzles and their overly loud bikes
Let us all hope so.

Having driven EV cars I can only imagine how fun an electric motorcycle would be.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:10 AM   #6
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Does this mean the end for these douche nozzles and their overly loud bikes
Somebody will just release a speaker system that sounds like a loud exhaust.
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Lame. It'll be many years for e bikes to make any inroads. The problem is when you ride, like say I do, out in my twisties, rpm varies. I mean you aren't putting along at the speed limit riding slow in the corners. I can get about 110-120 miles a tank then I have to refuel. You're SOL on an electric bike. People that ride twisty roads, whether farm roads, canyons, mountains, name it, you aren't going to stop at 50 miles because you've been sport riding and the battery is gone. Then sit there for an hour or longer to recharge it just so you can get home. EV is great for DD, etc, but it doesn't work for sport riding. They are acceptable for a commuter but no way would I want to commute on a motorcycle of any kind in this smartphone while driving environment. True sport riding will remain gas powered for the foreseeable future.
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It would be interesting to see the range in heavy sport riding that has a lot of regeneration braking.

Zero has addressed the problem somewhat with a quick change battery
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It would be interesting to see the range in heavy sport riding that has a lot of regeneration braking.

Zero has addressed the problem somewhat with a quick change battery
I'm not sure I would want regen braking on a motorcycle. Would the braking be for both wheels? Would it be applied evenly? It's been a long time since I have bikes, but I don't remember using the brakes that often when doing spirited mountain rides. I'm also not sure I'd want the instant torque / power either but maybe that's just me and i'm wrong.

For those that buy bikes and simply ride in the city, to and from work on the freeway or the douche bags that just rip around town without a helmet, I could see it selling well.

I see the EV Harley making a solid in road with the Millenial crowd. Have classic looking and also retro bikes in EV form and I think they would sell well.
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