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11-19-2009, 10:20 AM | #1 |
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3, 4 or 5 point seatbelt
Hey guys i've been lookin at buying some seatbelts for my 08 wrx hatch but I have a few questions.
1. I have stock seats. Which seatbelts should i get 3, 4 or 5 point? (for autocross) 2. Also does brand matter? any preferred brands? 3. How do I install them? I don't have a roll cage and it's my daily driver so i need the back-seats is this still possible? thanks guys p.s. I'm lookin to get seats but right now my budget doesn't allow just an fyi
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11-19-2009, 10:26 AM | #2 |
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I love my Scroth quick fit 4 point harness! It utilizes the rear seat belt mount points as well as the front ones and can be taken out when you need to use the rear seats and you can just use the stock belt. It's great for autocross and very simple to install/ remove.
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11-19-2009, 10:26 AM | #3 |
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Scroth Rallye 4 is the best choice if you still need back seats. The 3 isn't bad, but the 4 gives more lateral support. The front and back parts quick disconnect to let you use the back seat without needing to remove a harness bar.
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11-19-2009, 10:38 AM | #4 | |
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Because I'm too lazy to retype this:
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This all being said, there may be some harnesses that are better than others if you have to use them on the street, but I have not looked into that. I work as a vehicle safety systems engineer for a living. I'm not going to lie however in order to make a point; I do not work in seatbelts so my knowledge on the subject is rather limited. That being said, I've seen a lot of crash data and I've seen a lot of crash results. I know better than most what the body does in the event of a collision. EDIT: Also, if you have your mad tyte harnesses and you like them, fine. I don't need to be flamed or told I'm wrong like every time I share info on racing belts for street use. People do silly, dangerous things on here every day and it doesn't effect me in the least. However, don't tell everyone there's nothing wrong with racing belts of the street simply because you've never died or you got in a crash and walked away. Last edited by kpluiten; 11-19-2009 at 10:56 AM. |
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11-19-2009, 10:54 AM | #5 |
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We had crash analysis from BMW and the Army come in and talk to us about safety equipement with motor vehicles. They said that they had looked into 3-4 point systems but always found that the stress placed on the neck was too great. Also, in a side impact, the aorta has a nasty tendency to detach with a sudden change in speed. Having less "give" only worsens this....
All that said...was the OP even suggesting that he was going to use it on the street. Sounds like an AutoX only thing. |
11-19-2009, 10:57 AM | #6 | |
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Yes However the Scroth DOT aprooved belts are designed to give 3in in the case of an accident. Never ever use a track harness on a street car unless you feel like wearing a helmet and a HANS device everywhere you go
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11-19-2009, 10:59 AM | #7 |
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yea i wasn't planning on street use but now that you mentioned all that it certainly solidifies my thoughts about it. I would only be using it for auto x.
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11-19-2009, 11:13 AM | #8 |
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Good call!
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11-19-2009, 11:16 AM | #9 |
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I kept my stock seat belts on for the street and had my 4 points installed but just pushed aside till I needed them.
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11-19-2009, 11:17 AM | #10 |
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Very good call! Not only can they be dangerous depending on what harness you get, but they also get quite uncomfortable and you can't really turn around to look when your backing up with them on. They do make a HUGE difference for autocross though!
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11-19-2009, 11:19 AM | #11 |
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