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01-29-2013, 04:14 PM | #1 |
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need recommendation for adjustable upper arm assembly for 2012 WRX
Hi,
Does anybody have a recommendation for a maker of rear adjustable (for camber adjustment) upper arm assembly for a 2012 WRX? Thanks!
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01-29-2013, 04:35 PM | #2 |
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no one makes one. WL designed and tested one, but never released for production.
get a lower control arm instead. there are offerings made by Cusco and GT-Spec. |
01-29-2013, 05:01 PM | #3 |
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Pretty sure MSI makes an upper arm. TIC would be able to get them.
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01-29-2013, 05:49 PM | #4 |
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havent been able to source any MSI part for this. not through google or their website.
MSI does make front lower A-arms though (for 2002-2007) no 2008+ goodies |
01-30-2013, 02:04 PM | #5 |
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01-30-2013, 02:08 PM | #6 |
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01-30-2013, 05:53 PM | #7 |
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01-31-2013, 06:43 PM | #8 |
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Apparently the ones Whiteline were trying to produce had problems with production. Two outside manufacturers broke their super expensive machinery trying to produce them.
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01-31-2013, 09:19 PM | #9 | |
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And I heard that the WL units had fatigue problems. I believe it. Look at how beefy the MSI units are. And the stock arms are the only part of the rear suspension (other than spindle) made of cast iron. I guess they take a lot of load. The MSI stuff def looks like quality, and I'm sure the welds and spherical joints are all quality. $2000 puts it well outside the affordability range for just about everyone though. I am aware that MSI mostly caters to the pro motorsports market. I even think $500 for the Cusco lower arms is a bit much. Last edited by gsrcrxsi; 01-31-2013 at 09:34 PM. |
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01-31-2013, 10:41 PM | #10 |
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I was speaking to Doug from Whiteline (the guy who designs most of this stuff) back at PRI 2010 about the Whiteline version. They aren't ever going to happen. The issue they were having was to do with fitment. They could make them work with an OEM shock, but with some coilovers at some ride heights they didn't fit properly. Whiteline didn't want to release something that wasn't going to work universally the way replacement LCAs do, so they eventually scrapped the project. I was pretty disappointed since we were the original vendor who announced these back in 2009 and we had a ton of interest in them.
The best set up for an 08+ WRX or STi are adjustable LCAs and replacement bushing for the OEM upper control arms. Super Pro makes the fixed/non camber adjustable bushings for the upper control arms. Cusco, SPC, GT Spec and Agency Power all make LCAs and that is the exact order that I like them in. Cusco makes the nicest ones, but SPC are half the price and get the job done. I'd buy one of those two... Unless you want to spend $2k on those upper control arms that is. -Geoff |
01-31-2013, 11:02 PM | #11 | |
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"Those control arms are the same for both sides. You would just need to order 2 x 67645 to make both sides adjustable for your Subaru." |
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01-31-2013, 11:19 PM | #12 | |
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Hmm I don't know how to say this without possibly vending in the tech section but we sell them for less than half of that $264.95 shipped for a pair.. Buying parts directly from the manufacturer is never going to get you as good of a deal as buying from a shop. |
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02-01-2013, 12:06 PM | #13 |
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Sorry if this isn't the place for this comment. But, I just bought some of the Cusco LCAs and was looking into getting stiffer bushings for the Upper arm. I see that Super Pro and Whiteline both make non camber adjusting versions.
Cygnus - do you know which Brand has the stiffest bushing? Also, I know that Whiteline is in the process of releasing their version of the LCAs. They seem to have multiple mounting points for the coilovers/struts and endlinks. Is that true? Because I have seen some input where people didn't like the fact that all of the LCAs currently on the market move the bottom mounting point on the strut outwards. |
02-03-2013, 09:27 PM | #14 | |
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I have no firm info on the Whiteline LCAs. They are not in the US and may not be in the US for a very long time. From what I have been told the first batch also might be BRZ only. Sorry for the vague info there. Personally I think both Cusco and SPC are great options which are available now instead of "probably eventually." Any other questions just let me know I'm happy to help. Thanks, Geoff |
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02-03-2013, 09:55 PM | #15 |
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That's great info! Thanks for all the help. I already have the Cusco arms so I plan on changing the upper arm bushings, trailing arm bushings and going with some adjustable toe arms. Do you have a recommendation as far as those go?
I just want to go ahead and upgrade everything in the area then get a solid alignment/corner balance all at once. I looked at the Cygnus website and you guys seem to have great deals, i will probably be making an order with you guys soon. |
02-03-2013, 10:52 PM | #16 | |
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Thanks, Geoff |
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