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Old 01-08-2021, 07:07 PM   #101
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looks are all subjective. Still looks dorky to me, the big wing doesn't hide it - I'd want to remove the big wing anyway. I appreciate the little bit of added utility that a liftback provides, but just don't like it on a sedan. A coupe, sure, but on a sedan, it just looks meh. I'm a euro car fan... give me a modern EG hatch please. actually, I'd just prefer the Honda E.
Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

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Old 01-08-2021, 07:50 PM   #102
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Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

That looks great.

I mean... yes, you have to chose from what's made, but vw does exist and they do still make a euro type hatch for our market...
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Old 01-08-2021, 08:33 PM   #103
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That looks great.

I mean... yes, you have to chose from what's made, but vw does exist and they do still make a euro type hatch for our market...
Golf R vs Type R is a tough call certainly. Since the new model has a rear diff of some sort, if it's more like a Focus RS that appeals to me more than the old one, which is too refined for my tastes.

Honda needs to make the 11th gen Type R sound better - it sounds just like my $21k Civic Sport.
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:19 PM   #104
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Honda needs to make the 11th gen Type R sound better - it sounds just like my $21k Civic Sport.
With a crazy looking center exhaust, it does lack sound and character. Kinda surprised how they don't even offer a variable exhaust or an optional louder exhaust. The way it looks, it should have an exhaust like the Veloster N.
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Old 01-09-2021, 02:45 PM   #105
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taillights & rear 3/4 view remind me of Audi/VAG offerings, nose however looks like it's on the eleventh generation of inbreeding, or that it's been run into a guardrail
Definitely. The rear looks like it's straight off an Audi A3.
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Old 01-09-2021, 02:49 PM   #106
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With a crazy looking center exhaust, it does lack sound and character. Kinda surprised how they don't even offer a variable exhaust or an optional louder exhaust. The way it looks, it should have an exhaust like the Veloster N.
I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
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Old 01-09-2021, 02:53 PM   #107
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I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
It didn't need an active exhaust. Just one that's slightly louder all the time.
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Old 01-09-2021, 03:01 PM   #108
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It didn't need an active exhaust. Just one that's slightly louder all the time.
I meant one like the Veloster N - I don't want that sound all the time.
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I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
I don't think it's a cost thing. Veloster N can offer an active exhaust. They even offered a non-active exhaust on the cheaper non-performance package N that was pretty aggressive and rowdy. It just seems like Honda was more interested in the looks department in the multi diameter 3 tip exhaust and the rest of the "loud" body "vents".
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Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

I would take a i30N over the Veloster N. But sadly the dream is dead now the Elantra GT is dead in the U.S.
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Old 01-11-2021, 11:59 AM   #111
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I would take a i30N over the Veloster N. But sadly the dream is dead now the Elantra GT is dead in the U.S.
Do you think the Fastback N is a possibility? Audi/BMW seem to love this body style. Not sure how well the body style sells though.

I don't like it as much as the hatchback but it's practical and I like it much better than the Elantra N sedan.

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Do you think the Fastback N is a possibility? Audi/BMW seem to love this body style. Not sure how well the body style sells though.

I don't like it as much as the hatchback but it's practical and I like it much better than the Elantra N sedan.

I would welcome it. It's interesting that Hyundai has different N models for different markets. i30N hatchback and fastback for Europe. Veloster N and Elantra N (coming soon) for U.S. We will most likely get the Kona N because CUV.
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gimme dis:



just a render, but it's a Type R render on a Honda City Hatchback. I like the styling on the Honda City a lot more than the fastback on the Civic.
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:53 PM   #114
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I would welcome it. It's interesting that Hyundai has different N models for different markets. i30N hatchback and fastback for Europe. Veloster N and Elantra N (coming soon) for U.S. We will most likely get the Kona N because CUV.
Kona N is for us - what other country would want that?
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Old 01-11-2021, 06:56 PM   #115
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just a render, but it's a Type R render on a Honda City Hatchback. I like the styling on the Honda City a lot more than the fastback on the Civic.
Yeah, that's a car that looks awkward but with wide body kit and stuff it actually looks good.

Looks great here imo:

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^^^ I like that a lot more than the levorg.
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Old 01-12-2021, 02:42 PM   #117
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If they use some of the Clarity rear suspension (compact multi-link to make way for the giant H2 tank) magic to replace the twist beam, and have room for a dual-axis front suspension in the City, than it would be an excellent little halo car.
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^^^ I like that a lot more than the levorg.
Looks like a minivan.
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If they use some of the Clarity rear suspension (compact multi-link to make way for the giant H2 tank) magic to replace the twist beam, and have room for a dual-axis front suspension in the City, than it would be an excellent little halo car.
That Honda manufacturer died a long time ago. People, including myself, are wondering why the sudden change of heart by Honda to bring back DWS on the new Acura TLX and MDX. Did they get tired of BS MacPherson strut design? Seriously, forget 9K redline and refined FWD suspension setups on Honda econoboxes.
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That Honda manufacturer died a long time ago. People, including myself, are wondering why the sudden change of heart by Honda to bring back DWS on the new Acura TLX and MDX. Did they get tired of BS MacPherson strut design? Seriously, forget 9K redline and refined FWD suspension setups on Honda econoboxes.
Well, maybe because Acura gained a reputation of being fancier Hondas with optional AWD. They weren't perceived as a luxury brand.
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