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Old 10-19-2019, 11:20 AM   #476
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Does the COBB AP completely get rid of this ‘rev hang’?
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Old 10-19-2019, 12:36 PM   #477
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I might have to go test drive a 2020. I'm curious about the rev hang. I only have 7k on my 6mo old 19, but if rev hang is gone and throttle is more linear I might have to try and convince my dealer to flash my car with the new tune!
I'd be very interested to know if they'll even entertain that idea. My guess is no; but, let us know if they do.
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Old 10-22-2019, 01:37 PM   #478
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Hey guys, just have a question on the 2020 WRX changes... I'm thinking about picking one up. Had the opportunity to test drive one recently and coming from a 2006 STi it's a big difference in comfort driveability.

There isn't too much out there about the changes in 2020, (as minor as they are), but I curious about the 2 changes that were outlined on the Subaru website.

"WRX receives improved engine tuning, updated differential and select upgraded interior door trim with red stitching."

Forget the door stitching... i'm more curious about what the tune has done, i.e. is it more performance related or economy/emissions related?

And 2nd one being the rear diff change.

Does anyone have more details on these two changes and how they affect the 2020 WRX vs the 2019?
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Old 10-22-2019, 03:07 PM   #479
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https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?W...ArticleID=9717
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..New for 2020, all models benefit from an updated R167 rear differential.
Interesting. This appears to possibly be a change from the R160?

Would be nice if Subaru sneaked a LSD in

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Old 10-22-2019, 04:16 PM   #480
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https://www.subaru.ca/WebPage.aspx?W...ArticleID=9717

Interesting. This appears to possibly be a change from the R160?

Would be nice if Subaru sneaked a LSD in
Were they having issues with the older diff or is it just gear ratio change?
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Old 10-22-2019, 05:01 PM   #481
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Having issues? It's a 19 year old setup.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:18 PM   #482
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:28 PM   #483
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I was watching a review of the 2020 WRX and they mentioned that the rev hang wasn't as bad as the previous years, but that it's still present.
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Old 10-30-2019, 01:49 PM   #484
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EJ25=Dinosaur...Reminds me of my Evo 8 with a relic 4G63 then turned into 4B11 on my Evo X!
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Old 10-30-2019, 04:16 PM   #485
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2020 STI review by Throttle House.. intro w/ Engineering Explained

2020 Subaru WRX STI Review // End Of The Line, Pal - YouTube
I hadn't seen these guys before, but they seem good. Solid on-camera presence, more articulate than a lot of YouTube car folks, etc. And the EE intro was classic . (Also, "Blake Caliper?" )

They were pretty fair in how they expressed criticisms, putting them in context and not resorting to hyperbole and ridicule the way even some automotive journalists do. It's trendy to pile on the STI for its age, especially the powertrain, and it does have its downsides (Fuel economy? What's that?). But it's still good at what it does and improvements are supposedly in store anyway. Despite the dinosaur joke, they still seemed to appreciate what the engine can do when it's in its element.

Despite popular opinion, I agree with these guys that the current car looks good and the interior, while not dazzling, is fine for what it is. Let Subaru focus on updating what needs to be updated for the next gen and not get lost in change for the sake of change. If the new Levorg concept is any indication, Subaru's recent philosophy of incremental styling changes will treat the next WRX/STI just fine.

Nice to hear a refreshingly objective and reasonable review of a (charmingly?) flawed and aging but still remarkable car.
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:02 PM   #486
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I had to check if the one guy was actually Grant Random the sat radio DJ. Sounded exactly like him but with the occasional jarringly Canadian pronunciation and minus the constant stream of verbal filth.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:15 AM   #487
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Love throttle house, and I think this is the first youtube review I've seen of an 19+ STI from one of the big youtube channels (saw many Type RA reviews though).

Did anyone notice he mention the white is different and not pearl??
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:46 AM   #488
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Love throttle house, and I think this is the first youtube review I've seen of an 19+ STI from one of the big youtube channels (saw many Type RA reviews though).

Did anyone notice he mention the white is different and not pearl??
I hope so... while I love my little Imp in CWP and my old '14 FXT, it doesn't fit a muscle car. A pure white does.

My opinion of course.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:04 PM   #489
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Does the COBB AP completely get rid of this Ďrev hangí?
Not sure what model year you are talking about. The 2020's have a new tune from the factory, I believe the same as the 2019/Type RA. It no longer has the rev hang which is amazing to hear. I hated that in my 2018. The Cobb AP is not going to remove the rev hang just from having it, you'll have to apply a new tune to the engine to do that which will void your warranty just an fyi.
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Old 10-31-2019, 06:07 PM   #490
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I hope so... while I love my little Imp in CWP and my old '14 FXT, it doesn't fit a muscle car. A pure white does.

My opinion of course.
IDK, the only white car I ever had was a Crystal White Pearl 13 Mazdaspeed3 and I thought the white was amazing. Definitely one of my favorite colors. I thought it contrasted very well against aftermarket carbon fiber parts. I'd like to see this new white in person, it may be a step above.
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Old 10-31-2019, 07:57 PM   #491
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Not sure what model year you are talking about. The 2020's have a new tune from the factory, I believe the same as the 2019/Type RA. It no longer has the rev hang which is amazing to hear. I hated that in my 2018. The Cobb AP is not going to remove the rev hang just from having it, you'll have to apply a new tune to the engine to do that which will void your warranty just an fyi.
Yes, Iíve had many COBB APs (tuned/protuned) on many Subarus.
Never experienced revhang on any Iíve owned but have witnessed it aplenty on newer WRX test drives. It sucks. I was wondering if anybody with experience used a COBB AP to tune it out.
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Old 10-31-2019, 08:00 PM   #492
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I hope so... while I love my little Imp in CWP and my old '14 FXT, it doesn't fit a muscle car. A pure white does.

My opinion of course.
Agreed. Not a good look on an STI or WRX. I can barely stand it on my wifeís FXT.
Think Lexus Soccer Mom Suburbia color.
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Old 10-31-2019, 09:31 PM   #493
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2021 STI will come with DCT. Paddle shifter. DCCD. Direct Injection. With Hatch option. Boom.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:14 PM   #494
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2021 STI will come with DCT. Paddle shifter. DCCD. Direct Injection. With Hatch option. Boom.
Nope. Subaru does minor tweaks even with new models. They'll give us a new frame and body, but I bet their focus will be the drivetrain for the first few years.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:19 PM   #495
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2021 STI will come with DCT. Paddle shifter. DCCD. Direct Injection. With Hatch option. Boom.
I expect it would go boom if they attempt to do all that never before seen stuff at once. Itís not like Subaru is an expert at dual clutch manumatics.
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Old 10-31-2019, 10:22 PM   #496
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The 2021 WRX/STI won't be tweaked minor or otherwise. It will be a new ball game.

Expect to hear a lot of superlatives from reviewers.
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:34 PM   #497
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The 2021 WRX/STI won't be tweaked minor or otherwise. It will be a new ball game.

Expect to hear a lot of superlatives from reviewers.
How I hope your right...and I hope it looks good too, otherwise me and my MY19 will become really good friends.
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:51 AM   #498
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Yes, Iíve had many COBB APs (tuned/protuned) on many Subarus.
Never experienced revhang on any Iíve owned but have witnessed it aplenty on newer WRX test drives. It sucks. I was wondering if anybody with experience used a COBB AP to tune it out.
I had rev hang on my brand new 2018 STI when I bought it. I had to apply a tune to get rid of it. I think the rev hang only plagued the 15-18 models. I don't know if the 19's had it and the 2020's don't have it anymore due to the redesigned tune that they come from the factory with.
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