|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
08-22-2016, 09:57 AM | #1 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
Vehicle:24 TypeS ZO6 White |
2018 Honda Civic Type R
Quote:
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
|
|
08-22-2016, 10:11 AM | #2 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2016, 11:42 AM | #3 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: www.testdrivemylife.com
Vehicle:2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000 |
Maybe. However, driving dynamics and fun are not exclusive to AWD. If the car is light, and nimble and has a really good LSD or dare I say it electronic diff, it could pull off some Type R magic again. This is Honda we are talking about. They CAN do it. Whether or not they WILL remains to be seen. I am as skeptical as you are Pre. But it could happen.
|
08-22-2016, 11:58 AM | #4 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 128484
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region:
International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:2006 EDM WRX STI WRB |
did they manage to install a corvette exhaust?
|
08-22-2016, 12:04 PM | #5 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 276425
Join Date: Mar 2011
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle:2003 BMW M3 Jet Black |
Plus I hear the FoRS is FWD on the track
|
08-22-2016, 12:15 PM | #6 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
Quote:
|
|
08-22-2016, 12:56 PM | #7 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 84671
Join Date: Apr 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: San Antonio, TX
Vehicle:2007 LegGT(dead) DGM |
Really concerns me if they are insisting that its "playing in the area of the FoRS" and cant match the performance. then its just over priced AF and i cant see it being successful. If they can bring it in at sub $30k then maybe...in championship white....maybe
|
08-22-2016, 01:47 PM | #8 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: snoco wa
Vehicle:135i vert fast leaf |
i'm sure that whatever they make will have good numbers on a track. Sticking with fwd is unfortunate though... okay numbers on a track, but poor in day-to-day driving. A high hp fwd car does not appeal to me given that I live in a place with wet roads for a good portion of the year, and mountain passes that require me to put chains on my car unless I have awd... I'd welcome a good performance awd Honda to my driveway. (throw this engine, with awd and a manual into the hrv and maybe you've got a winner?)
|
08-22-2016, 02:12 PM | #9 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 437188
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Houston
Vehicle:06 TR Stage 2 17 SS 1LE |
FWD at these power levels -> no care. At a minimum they could use the SHAWD.
|
08-22-2016, 02:46 PM | #10 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 84671
Join Date: Apr 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: San Antonio, TX
Vehicle:2007 LegGT(dead) DGM |
Quote:
i mean i get the want for AWD. especially considering they want to compete with the FoRS. But if the chassis/platform isnt set up for it do we want them trying to shoehorn SHAWD into it? would likely make it waaaayy too expensive for the segment. Like the FoRS already is. |
|
08-22-2016, 07:42 PM | #11 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 35419
Join Date: Apr 2003
|
Quote:
Is it really clever or is there a reason other companies aren't doing it that way... . I am not too enthused about a powerful FWD car. But hey, it doesn't have huge hype to live up to and may actually impress. |
|
08-22-2016, 08:44 PM | #12 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 441528
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Vehicle:2015 STI |
|
08-22-2016, 09:02 PM | #13 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 442
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: RI/SE Mass
Vehicle:17 Imp Spurt 00 S2k |
The limiting factor of the ITR we got was tires. You couldn't put a tire wider than 225 on it without cutting fenders. Once people figured out the WRX, it was faster than the ITR, given almost the same HP. But the ITR did beat up on the WRX for a bit until wider tires became available for the WRX. But the ITR was still rather fast on the track regardless - tight autox? WRX was better after a year or two of figuring things out (The ITR had a few year head start).
If they can bring in a lightweight challenger that can put wider tires (245 at least, 275 would be awesome) without hitting fender or suspension, it can be REALLY quick. --kC |
08-23-2016, 10:49 AM | #14 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 44501
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Yeah, well, you know
Vehicle:that 's, like, your alternate facts, man. |
Quote:
As for a FWD Civic not competing.. here's the euro Type-R civic (based on the Fit platform.. which has been traditionally slower than the JDM Type-R based on larger the Civic platform) compared to the FoRS and Golf R: tl;dw: The Civic is the preferred dry track day car... it's lighter, has a more frenetic engine, better steering, and puts more power to the wheels with a proper LSD. Last edited by Calamity Jesus; 08-23-2016 at 10:59 AM. |
|
08-23-2016, 04:44 PM | #15 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 84671
Join Date: Apr 2005
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: San Antonio, TX
Vehicle:2007 LegGT(dead) DGM |
Quote:
Im all for this. I dont need a damn race car and ill most likely never track it. Autox possibly. But ill take a fun, lighter, better handling FWD car for DD over AWD any time. People hate on FWD but then insist the GTI is amazing (which it is). |
|
08-23-2016, 04:54 PM | #16 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: www.testdrivemylife.com
Vehicle:2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000 |
^^^^^ THIS, exactly this ^^^^^
|
08-23-2016, 05:16 PM | #17 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 194216
Join Date: Nov 2008
Chapter/Region:
W. Canada
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:2022 Fast POS |
Quote:
|
|
08-23-2016, 05:57 PM | #18 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 447202
Join Date: May 2016
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Buffalo
Vehicle:2016 wrx |
If the Type R looks like the red sedan pictured then I will likely trade my 16 wrx in for one. Esspacially if its priced around 30K. I dont care if its FWD or AWD. Honda has made some of the best FWD cars ever. I willing the bet the interior will be way nicer as well. I enjoy my WRX but im a honda boy at heart.
|
08-23-2016, 05:59 PM | #19 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: snoco wa
Vehicle:135i vert fast leaf |
FWD cars aren't great in inclement weather. They're better than RWD, but still trail AWD. I understand that for some climates maybe it's acceptable, but there's a reason that the pacific northwest is subaru country. Since it's wet for 6 months of the year, I want something that can put some power to the ground when it's wet, rather than just lighting up the tires. Poor inclement weather driving is not a track issue, it's a daily driver issue.
A few months back, I was driving in downtown Seattle. On a rainy day, I got stopped at a stop light on one of the very steep streets we have downtown (everyone thinks of SF as being hilly, but Seattle has some seriously steep streets) behind a brand new Civic. The Civic couldn't get moving, he just kept spinning his wheels, starting to slide backwards down the hill. I simply went around him, as did all of the other Subaru's on the road. By the time I got past the next block, he was still in the same spot. Plus, there's the whole tire chain issue here in the mountains, which makes awd a no-brainer for anyone who enjoys recreating in the mountains in the winter time. FWD has it's place, but it's not in my driveway. |
08-23-2016, 06:29 PM | #20 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 447202
Join Date: May 2016
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Buffalo
Vehicle:2016 wrx |
@dwf137,
In those types of environments I totally understand where your coming from. I live in the Northeast. Buffalo to be exact. We have some brutal winters, that was part of the reason I was interested in the WRX. However, I find that snow tires really solve any snow related issue to come up. That situation you discussed makes me laugh though... I bet that was the day the civic driver decided to get a subaru lol. |
08-23-2016, 08:09 PM | #21 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
Quote:
|
|
08-23-2016, 08:53 PM | #22 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 379605
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Peabody, MA
Vehicle:2017 Civic Sport 2012 Outback 2.5 |
The Civic R from 2 generations ago was unanimously praised - it's really a Touring Car, so obviously not really a street car or winter car.
It's not what I need in my life, and probably too harsh for US crappy roads. I'd love to own one in Switzerland. |
08-24-2016, 11:02 AM | #23 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 192568
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Georgetown, KY
Vehicle:'23 F150, '23 Camry '21 RAV4 |
|
08-24-2016, 12:34 PM | #24 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: snoco wa
Vehicle:135i vert fast leaf |
Agreed. Snow tires plus FWD is definitely acceptable. I had an MCS for a year and had a set of snow tires on it. I had no issues getting up to the mountains, but when the sign says "chains required except awd" and there's a cop sitting at the chain up location... I had to stop, get out in the rain (changed to snow about 1/8 mile up the road), and install chains... never again.
|
08-24-2016, 12:54 PM | #25 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 276425
Join Date: Mar 2011
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: Seattle, WA
Vehicle:2003 BMW M3 Jet Black |
Quote:
|
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|