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#101 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
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#102 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 162846
Join Date: Oct 2007
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![]() I’d take a Levorg STI with a manual or CVT!
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#103 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
![]() I think you'd have people at the stealer literally fist fighting to get an allocation. Subaru and all their reliability issues, and recalls, etc, and people would still be lining up. For a company that talks about customer loyalty etc, you need to make one vehicle to make up for LGT wagons, STi hatches, WRX hatches, give us one g damn option!
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#104 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 129681
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region:
MAIC
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![]() That doesn't surprise me. The Corolla is the largest selling vehicle in the world, from the world's largest automaker. It darn well should be an excellent car.
Kind of amazing to me... for Subaru to be a player in that league, performance and reliability wise, however relatively placed. |
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#105 | |
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Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
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#106 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 183032
Join Date: Jun 2008
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: CT
Vehicle:RWD Camry Pull me over red |
![]() It's ugly, I'll take it! With an STI drivetrain pls. still significantly less cargo capacity than my 2006 wagon had, but significantly better than the sedan.
Ugly is part of what makes a Subaru a Subaru. |
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#107 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 194216
Join Date: Nov 2008
Chapter/Region:
W. Canada
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Vehicle:2022 Fast POS |
![]() It's ugly but it kind of goes back to Subaru's roots of making quirky, strange looking vehicles. Most of their lineup today is pretty bland and anonymous in comparison.
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#108 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 379605
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Peabody, MA
Vehicle:2017 Civic Sport 2012 Outback 2.5 |
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#109 | |
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Member#: 454909
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Andorra
Vehicle:2006 WRX SW Crystal gray |
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Because the 06 WRX wagon had 166L less cargo space than this new Levorg. And a 06 Legacy had 102L less than this new Levorg. I personally don't find it ugly at all, it's has better proportions than the old Levorg and the design looks fresh and unique. But ugly or pretty is just a personal thing. |
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#110 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 94408
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: Canada
Vehicle:17 STI Sport-Tech 20 Corolla Hybrid Premium |
![]() I really like it. STI-it with a 6-speed and it’s perfect.
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#111 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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I'd also think Levorg had more cargo capacity than our old 06 WRX wagons. |
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#112 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 450808
Join Date: Jul 2016
Chapter/Region:
SCIC
Location: Anaheim
Vehicle:2017 WRX Premium WR Blue Pearl |
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I like the current design language but I do agree that it looks...almost like any other automaker. Everything now is angular and aggressive and has LED running lights which look cool as hell, but EVERYONE has them. Honda Civics used to look like true econoboxes. Now even a base model Civic looks quite muscular with the big fender arches and prominent hood lines. I really like the Levorg but then again I love hatches and wagons, which can't be said of most Americans. I do think that segment needs a lot of love and I'm glad Subaru is still catering to it. Now if only we can get this thing stateside... |
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#113 | ||
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Member#: 183032
Join Date: Jun 2008
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: CT
Vehicle:RWD Camry Pull me over red |
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Press release for the Levorg says 561 litres, which in freedom units is 19.8 cuft. Everything I come across for the 06 says 27.9 cuft with the seats up (converted that would be 790 liters). Either the press release is wrong, my conversion is wrong, the internet is lying about the 06 cargo capacity, or the Levorg hatch area is compromised by the sloping roof & raised back-end coupled with the rear passenger seats. |
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#114 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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In the U.S., we publish the entire volume up to the headliner. |
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#115 | ||
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Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region:
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#116 | |
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Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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80.6 mm bore and 88 mm stroke (splitting the difference between FA20/FA24 and FB20/FB25 stroke). Maybe Subaru engineers have finally understood what they needed to do to get a turbo engine that runs well on pump gas (with improved fuel economy too). Took 'em long enough. |
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#117 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 161333
Join Date: Oct 2007
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: snoco wa
Vehicle:20 Yami XSR fast leaf |
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But if it's going to be auto (CVT), hard pass. If I'm accepting an automatic, there are other things on the market I'd prefer. Used BMW 330i xdrive, audi sq5, etc. would all be higher on my list than another CVT powered Subaru. Will be back in the market for a sporty wagon again in a few years - likely would accept a "sporty" CUV too. Probably would prefer EV if there's a good awd option available, but if not, I'll settle for another ICE. |
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#118 | |
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Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region:
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#119 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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But, unless they used toothpicks instead of proper rods, that engine should be able to match FA20DIT blow for blow while being more tolerant on less than perfect 93 AKI gas. But, then again, FA24DIT makes 260-hp on 87; so, maybe it's the path of least resistance even if it will never match the fuel efficiency or knock resistance of the 1.8L long stroker. |
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#120 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 57287
Join Date: Mar 2004
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Kalamazoo, MI
Vehicle:2002 Bugeye STi MY07 WRB FXT |
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#121 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 3251
Join Date: Dec 2000
Chapter/Region:
NWIC
Location: WA
Vehicle:2009 WRX Hatch DGM |
![]() Yeah but just like the last WRX, it's just a 4 door version of the Levorg. Honestly it's not straying too far from the 2020 Impreza face, I think we all expected that.
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#122 |
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Member#: 447323
Join Date: May 2016
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#123 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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For sure, it should rev WAY better than EZ36 ever could. Would be a nice N/A 250-hp for a BRZ... |
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#124 | |
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Member#: 67807
Join Date: Aug 2004
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#125 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 159474
Join Date: Sep 2007
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Northbridge, MA
Vehicle:2017 Impreza Sport Lithium Red - OLDKID |
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