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Old 12-16-2016, 02:56 PM   #226
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The ACT 6 puck clutch has had its last breath of life. It's very recently been replaced with a new exedy hyper twin disk clutch. I'm still in the break in period of the clutch itself, and still rocking the same oem 5 speed the car was sold from the dealership with. It's been a hectic year with starting a new job and moving to the burgh.
We're so far aparts meow.
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Old 08-13-2018, 10:17 PM   #227
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Sorry to bump an old thread... but how is the stock 5 speed?
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Old 08-14-2018, 06:58 AM   #228
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Oh ya, forgot he was moving to the Burgh
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Old 08-14-2018, 07:57 PM   #229
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Holy crap. This thing is awesome.
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Old 08-15-2018, 11:12 AM   #230
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Looking good man!
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:09 PM   #231
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This car DOESNT represent what you can expect from a 5 speed. This shouldn't give you any hope. He personally stated the car is a garage queen and he rarely ever drives it like most subaru owners drive their cars.
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Old 08-15-2018, 04:38 PM   #232
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For sure... any OEM 5-speed canít reliably handle over ~325 wtq (source: Flatirons Tuning). That should also be taken as the exception and not the rule. As for the Blast Plates, well their benefits seem dubious.

Iím just really curious to see if that stock trans is still kicking
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Old 08-15-2018, 06:39 PM   #233
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I'm average about 10k miles on 4.11 5mt's with spirited driving. I usually break 2nd gear between shifts, not even agressive shifts so i think they certainly wear and don't just quit. Current 5mt been in car about 1k miles and first gear sounds straight cut after 2 passes in the 1320.

I swapped out the shirty plastic linkage bushing for some brass since each time I've removed tranny, the bushings were shot. I somewhat think the loose linkage may have contributed too breaking. I have no plans to go 6mt.

400-480wtq depending on dyno
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:24 PM   #234
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This car DOESNT represent what you can expect from a 5 speed. This shouldn't give you any hope. He personally stated the car is a garage queen and he rarely ever drives it like most subaru owners drive their cars.


Amen to that!
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:26 PM   #235
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For sure... any OEM 5-speed canít reliably handle over ~325 wtq (source: Flatirons Tuning). That should also be taken as the exception and not the rule. As for the Blast Plates, well their benefits seem dubious.

Iím just really curious to see if that stock trans is still kicking


Does flatirons tuning have any data to back it up? Iam sure they have plenty experience with subarus but some stats would be nice.
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Old 08-15-2018, 07:41 PM   #236
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Does flatirons tuning have any data to back it up? Iam sure they have plenty experience with subarus but some stats would be nice.


Unfortunately I donít think Flatirons has any data to back it up. I would think that any attempt of collecting data on transmission strength is fallible. So many variables... age, maintenance, abuse, clutch strength, tire grip, etc.

The only way to do it is to
1) have a massive budget
2) have a large enough sample size of transmissions to destroy
3) have a way to consistently provide the same load conditions to every trial

A drivetrain is a chain, and the first broken link in that chain is ideally the tires. Since we have AWD, the components will break first
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Old 08-30-2018, 06:58 PM   #237
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Unfortunately I donít think Flatirons has any data to back it up. I would think that any attempt of collecting data on transmission strength is fallible. So many variables... age, maintenance, abuse, clutch strength, tire grip, etc.

The only way to do it is to
1) have a massive budget
2) have a large enough sample size of transmissions to destroy
3) have a way to consistently provide the same load conditions to every trial

A drivetrain is a chain, and the first broken link in that chain is ideally the tires. Since we have AWD, the components will break first


Yeah, itís not cost effective. Thanks for your valuable input.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:03 AM   #238
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This car DOESNT represent what you can expect from a 5 speed. This shouldn't give you any hope. He personally stated the car is a garage queen and he rarely ever drives it like most subaru owners drive their cars.

^^^^^ This. I can't stress this enough. My factory 5 speed is still running fine, but the car is rarely driven anymore since I was traveling so much for work. It's a garage queen and hasn't made any passes on a track, especially since I've moved. So while it does hold up to spirited drives just fine, I'd imagine this transmission will grenade the second it's launched. I've had to replace my ACT 6 Puck recently and ended up going with an Exedy twin disk. I've since had the car retuned by Graham Gaylord and it feels muuuuuuch better. Currently sitting around 660awhp, 580ish lbs tq for the streets, with room to grow again if I want it.

Side Note: Anybody in Pittsburgh in the car scene here? Where/ When are the meets and who's who around here? Would love to get involved since work has slowed a bit.
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Old 08-31-2018, 10:40 AM   #239
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^^^^^ This. I can't stress this enough. My factory 5 speed is still running fine, but the car is rarely driven anymore since I was traveling so much for work. It's a garage queen and hasn't made any passes on a track, especially since I've moved. So while it does hold up to spirited drives just fine, I'd imagine this transmission will grenade the second it's launched. I've had to replace my ACT 6 Puck recently and ended up going with an Exedy twin disk. I've since had the car retuned by Graham Gaylord and it feels muuuuuuch better. Currently sitting around 660awhp, 580ish lbs tq for the streets, with room to grow again if I want it.

Side Note: Anybody in Pittsburgh in the car scene here? Where/ When are the meets and who's who around here? Would love to get involved since work has slowed a bit.
Ya. I dont attend much since #familylife but theres at least two meets amonth. One at QSL in Robinson first Wednesday of each month and another at BWW like 2 weeks after that

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...15628&page=453
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Old 08-31-2018, 11:38 AM   #240
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I blew my 3rd gear over the weekend, but that was 70k miles of abuse before I even installed the blast plates. I will give it one more try with fresh set of gears and see how it does. But if you watch my videos, I am very rough with the shifting when going fast, not a surprised I blew a gear lol. 400ft-lbs on low boost atm. I dont launch my car though. I've flat foot shifted when I first got the car, money shifted a few times, slam gears all the time, and kick in and out the clutch.

I am not afraid to admit that the 5 speed cant handle abuse if it takes a poop again, but first time since I've had the car! oh and I have a lot of movement during shifting I need to fix. I think tranny mounts/ engine mounts are going bad, not sure if all that movement contributed for the gear going out.
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