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Old 11-08-2018, 07:03 AM   #1
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2019 Mazda3 Teaser Confirms L.A. Auto Show Debut This Month
It looks like both the hatchback and sedan are going to be in Los Angeles.

After a cryptic 15-second-long teaser video published last month, the Zoom-Zoom company has now released a new image confirming the all-new Mazda3 is right around the corner. By that we mean the world premiere is scheduled to take place at the end of this month during the Los Angeles Auto Show. The event will open its doors to the media on November 28 with the first press day, but don’t be too surprised if the car will be revealed on the Internet a few days before.

There’s more good news to share as not only will it introduce the five-door hatchback, but Mazda is also going to unveil the four-door sedan. Obviously, details are scarce at the moment, but we do know straight from the horse’s mouth that the new 3 will adopt a more mature interpretation of the excellent Kodo design language. It’s safe to say the promising Kai concept (pictured below) is an accurate blueprint of what to expect from the road-going car.

The short press release published today reiterates the revamped compact Mazda models will adopt the next generation of SkyActiv engines, while the overhauled platform aims to “deliver new dimensions of driving pleasure to customers around the world.”

One of the most important assets of the next-gen 3 will be under the hood where we’ll find a SkyActiv-X (pronounced “ex” not “ten”) engine. We drove a Mazda3-bodied prototype at the beginning of the year with the new mill, which took the shape of a supercharged inline-four featuring cooled exhaust-gas recirculation and an electrically controlled variable valve timing. Mazda is being coy on details, but promises the new gasoline engine will cut fuel consumption by 20-30 percent while boosting torque by as much as 20 percent to deliver diesel-like levels.

The prototype’s engine has been engineered to work with a six-speed manual gearbox as well as an automatic with the same number of gears. In the prototypes, Mazda’s engineers had to add special foam in the engine bay to silence the four-cylinder mill in the same vein as premium European automakers strive to make their diesel engines quiet.

Dave Coleman, Mazda’s manager of vehicle dynamics engineering, admitted noise, vibration, and harshness (NVH) are “very challenging” due to the new engine’s explosive nature of compression ignition and the higher-pressure fuel system. He went on to mention the SkyActiv-X engine does not have anything in common with today’s 2.0-liter SkyActiv-G, adding the engineers had to reinforce the new unit since the explosions are putting more strain on the internal components.

We’re eager to learn more about the next-generation Mazda3, so it’s a good thing the wait is almost over.

Source: Mazda
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:26 AM   #2
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Looking forward to it.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:31 AM   #3
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I heard a rumor it will offer AWD.
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:34 AM   #4
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I heard a rumor it will offer AWD.
Been hearing that rumor for about 10 years. Not sure what platform it is on now, but when it was on the global Focus/C30/Mz3 platform, it wasn't going to happen.

Maybe we'll be luckier this time around?

I'd still pick up an MS6 if the right opportunity presented itself.
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Old 11-08-2018, 10:59 AM   #5
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News New Mazda 3 Will Debut in LA With Holy Grail Skyactiv-X Engine

Mazda just confirmed that the new Mazda 3, with its fancy Spark Controlled Compression Ignition Engine called Skyactiv-X, will debut at the LA Auto Show in about three weeks. And it will be a mild hybrid, according to Automotive News Europe.

The Skyactiv-X engine works by using a process that Mazda calls Spark Controlled Compression Ignition—essentially a spark plug lighting off a localized rich mixture of fuel and air to create a fireball that compresses the lean mixture throughout the rest of the cylinder, yielding spontaneous ignition. It’s a fascinating concept that promises the efficiency of a diesel engine, but with far lower emissions, and it’s finally making its way into a production car.

In Los Angeles on Nov. 28, Mazda’s showing off the all-new Mazda 3, which will get new styling based on Mazda’s KODO design language (see Mazda’s teaser above), and will ride on an all-new platform that promises improved driver comfort, among other changes over the outgoing car.

But the big difference is the engine, which will be the first mass-produced production gasoline compression engine on the market. I had a chance to drive a prototype Mazda 3 with this Skyactiv-X engine and found it to feel fairly normal in most conditions, though I did notice some knocking under some conditions.



But Mazda plans to refine the rough edges of the engine using a motor generator unit like the one shown above, with Automotive News Europe writing:

Mazda CEO Akira Marumoto, talking about the car here ahead of its unveiling, said the strategy is to mate the Skyactiv-X engine to a mild-hybrid system. Marshaling the electric motor’s power-assist ability will ensure linear acceleration and spirited driving, Marumoto said.

“Skyactiv-X is a very efficient engine in the first place, so we don’t need a full hybrid. Mild hybrid is good enough,” Marumoto said. “And by using the mild-hybrid system, linear driving dynamics can be pursued as well.”

The news source cites Marumoto as stating that the new Mazda 3 will get the 2.5-liter Skyactiv-G found in the current lineup, as well as the Skyactiv-X engine, which will be a 2.0-liter mild hybrid, and will “be positioned as the higher grade.” Marumoto also allegedly told the site that the Skyactiv-X-equipped car will have the same driving dynamics of the 2.5-liter, but it will offer the fuel economy of a 1.5-liter diesel.

“The arrival of all-new Mazda 3 marks the beginning of a whole new generation of Mazda cars,” Mazda says in its press release.

I’m excited to see how this thing turned out, and how the company improved the prototype I drove in August of last year. More importantly, I’m interested in seeing the official EPA fuel economy figures, which I assume won’t be out until well after the car’s debut.

https://jalopnik.com/new-mazda-3-wil...v-x-1830305925
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Old 11-13-2018, 07:14 AM   #6
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Mazda just confirmed that the new Mazda 3,

But the big difference is the engine, which will be the first mass-produced

The news source cites Marumoto as stating that the new Mazda 3 will get the 2.5-liter Skyactiv-G found in the current lineup, as well as the Skyactiv-X engine, which will be a 2.0-liter mild hybrid, and will “be positioned as the higher grade.” Marumoto also allegedly told the site that the Skyactiv-X-equipped car will have the same driving dynamics of the 2.5-liter, but it will offer the fuel economy of a 1.5-liter diesel.

“The arrival of all-new Mazda 3 marks the beginning of a whole new generation of Mazda cars,” Mazda says in its press release.



https://jalopnik.com/new-mazda-3-wil...v-x-1830305925
How about a new Mazda3 to play with the CTR Wrx GTi etc.. They have 2.5 Turbo and optional AWD in the Cx5. MazdaSpeed 3 hatch 2.5 Turbo AWD with G vectoring etc etc. wrapped in that nice Signature Edition Package.. Yeah baby
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Old 11-13-2018, 03:44 PM   #7
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How about a new Mazda3 to play with the CTR Wrx GTi etc.. They have 2.5 Turbo and optional AWD in the Cx5. MazdaSpeed 3 hatch 2.5 Turbo AWD with G vectoring etc etc. wrapped in that nice Signature Edition Package.. Yeah baby
I was secretly hoping for this, but even if they put the turbo in, I doubt they'd put the AWD in. No AWD in the Mazda6 afterall.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:26 AM   #8
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Been hearing that rumor for about 10 years. Not sure what platform it is on now, but when it was on the global Focus/C30/Mz3 platform, it wasn't going to happen.

Maybe we'll be luckier this time around?

I'd still pick up an MS6 if the right opportunity presented itself.
They offer AWD in Japan, I never took the time to figure out what was different / why they never sold it elsewhere, but it's definitely an offering.
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Can't wait to see it.
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Old 11-11-2018, 09:46 AM   #10
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I just thought I would jump in and say one thing. I always love Dave Coleman's expertise in regards to technobabble. He was the one saving grace when Sport Compact Car was still the thing to read.
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As expected, but not complaining at all, mini CX-5.

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Old 11-27-2018, 11:17 PM   #13
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Looks like AWD will be an option. No engine specs yet though.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:54 AM   #14
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ugh. as one who prefers hatchbacks, the 3 sedan looks much better IMO. Probably has to do with the strip of chrome running along the bottom of the windows and that awkward c-pillar...
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I've read a couple reviews that said Mazda changed the 3's rear suspension from multi-link to torsion beam. This seems like a step backwards for a company that is known for its handling.
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Old 11-28-2018, 06:33 AM   #16
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I've read a couple reviews that said Mazda changed the 3's rear suspension from multi-link to torsion beam. This seems like a step backwards for a company that is known for its handling.
The AWD version will probably still have multi-link.

Agree the hatchback looks horrible. Sedan looks good but I don't like sedans.
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The AWD version will probably still have multi-link.

Agree the hatchback looks horrible. Sedan looks good but I don't like sedans.
Sure hope the AWD variant has multi link rear, still can’t understand why the FWD doesn’t. Well, realistically I know it’s about cost savings.

I hope there is a Mazdaspeed version on the horizon.
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Sure hope the AWD variant has multi link rear, still can’t understand why the FWD doesn’t. Well, realistically I know it’s about cost savings.
I wouldn't count on it. I would think they would have mentioned that a multi link is available. They even went out of their way to mention the torsion beam setup was used to reduce NVH. Also, the CX-3 has a torsion beam rear with AWD.

Unless they are doing a Hyundai like the Kona gets multi link for AWD and torsion for FWD, but Hyundai mentioned the suspension difference.
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I wouldn't count on it. I would think they would have mentioned that a multi link is available. They even went out of their way to mention the torsion beam setup was used to reduce NVH. Also, the CX-3 has a torsion beam rear with AWD.
If they've figured a good way to add AWD to torsion beam already, that's what it'll get.

The 3 hatch looks worse with every generation, imo. Of course I love the Civic hatch so it's all subjective!
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Sure hope the AWD variant has multi link rear, still can’t understand why the FWD doesn’t. Well, realistically I know it’s about cost savings.

I hope there is a Mazdaspeed version on the horizon.
Mazdas are expected to drive with a finesse belying their mass-market price tags, to connect with motorists in a way rival vehicles simply don’t. After all, it is the zoom-zoom brand.

They absolutely hang their hat on offering products with engaging dynamics. So, why the hell does the all-new 2020 Mazda3, the Japanese automaker’s latest compact offering, feature a decidedly old-fashioned torsion-beam rear suspension instead of a more advanced multi-link arrangement? There are several important reasons, and one is quite surprising.



Kouta Beppu is the Mazda3 program manager. Speaking through a translator, he explained, “What we wanted out of this car is to keep the behavior as smooth in its transition as possible up until the limits of performance.” The reason for this, Beppu said, is because they desired to have the vehicle behave in a way that feels natural to the person driving it to make it seem intuitive.

“And we… saw that rather than having a multi-link, it was easier for us to have it with the torsion beam because there are less… variables with the torsion beam,” said Beppu. A suspension with fewer points of change should be easier for engineers to fine-tune, but it’s not the only reason to adopt a system like this.

SEE ALSO: 8 Design Secrets of the 2020 Mazda3

Compared to multi-link suspensions, torsion beams are often mechanically simpler, can be lighter and are typically easier to package. That last point, in particular, can pay some important dividends, particularly in the area cargo space. Torsion beams usually sit lower in a vehicle, something that often allows for more trunk room.

And this is also the case with the 2020 Mazda3. Beppu noted the new cargo hold is deeper and more accessible than before. He also said suitcases are easier to fit in there because of the space’s revised shape.



Obviously, the humble torsion beam has its share of important benefits, but it’s still surprising that Mazda engineers opted to go with a suspension arrangement that doesn’t provide the best-possible dynamics. “So, if you were… driving around a circuit, [at a] track day or whatever, and you’re going around a high-G corner, of course, multi-link, in that particular instance, will have its advantage,” said Beppu. “But, if you think about real daily driving, the vast majority of cases there’s no difference between the two in this area.”

The choice engineers have made seems like a curious step backwards for Mazda, a move in the wrong direction, though given their track record of delivering exceptionally engaging vehicles there’s probably little to worry about. We can’t wait to test the 2020 Mazda3 at some point next year, to see if it truly handles as well as Beppu says it does.


Craig Cole at Autoguide.com

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...spension-.html
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Old 12-25-2018, 08:00 AM   #21
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“So, if you were… driving around a circuit, [at a] track day or whatever, and you’re going around a high-G corner, of course, multi-link, in that particular instance, will have its advantage,” said Beppu. “But, if you think about real daily driving, the vast majority of cases there’s no difference between the two in this area.”

Basically the opposite of what everyone is saying above. FWIW, their argument about more cargo space is valid, but the rest is bull****. Fewer variables to tune means they will do a better job tuning it? GTFO.
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I kinda like the 3 hatch. For some reason it reminds me of the hatches from the 80's and 90's.
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Still waiting for them to re-release the Mazdaspeed 3 and 6. Keep or improve current handling, MT RWD or AWD with a powerplant putting out 220bhp with curb weight around 3000 lbs would be perfect for a sedan or hatchback. Not any of this anemic (for the curb weight) 158bhp stuff that is better suited for grocery-getter-only duty.

Their only truly fun car right now is the MX-5.
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Mazda 3 AWD Hatch might be the WRX Replacement I was waiting for. I really need a Hatch, can't wait for more specs
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I see a lot of Brera in the back end.
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