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Old 01-14-2022, 10:09 AM   #401
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Watering down of the sti brand... Not surprising, but a bummer. Too bad they can't actually provide a more thrilling version.
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Old 01-14-2022, 10:47 AM   #402
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Watering down of the sti brand... Not surprising, but a bummer. Too bad they can't actually provide a more thrilling version.
Eh, this is the STI Parts Company, not an STI-car. I don't consider it watering down as it's merchandise.

It's like AMG wheels vs an AMG-car. If I buy a normal MB, I can add AMG accessories. That doesn't water-down the motorsports/coach-works company.

A true Solterra STI or Solterra tS would be a Model Y competitor.
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Old 01-14-2022, 05:21 PM   #403
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they're going all in on the black cladding.

pretty soon you'll be able to get a Subaru in any color you want as long as that color is black cladding.

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Big STI wing too.

Any specs? More powerful motor? (I know, I know, but it would be nice).

When I saw it in person at the meeting, they did mention about future possibilities on range and power.


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Watering down of the sti brand... Not surprising, but a bummer. Too bad they can't actually provide a more thrilling version.



Watering down the STI, to me, are those that put a couple parts on their car then put the STI logo on it.


STI has been doing tS models and parts cars for a long time. Just not here obviously.
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Old 01-15-2022, 08:03 AM   #404
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Nice.

When I saw it in person at the meeting, they did mention about future possibilities on range and power.

Watering down the STI, to me, are those that put a couple parts on their car then put the STI logo on it.

STI has been doing tS models and parts cars for a long time. Just not here obviously.
STI badged wings, wheels and other parts have been available since at least 2016 for the USDM Crosstrek.
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Old 01-15-2022, 08:50 AM   #405
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STI badged wings, wheels and other parts have been available since at least 2016 for the USDM Crosstrek.



I know. I mean the car badging like it IS an STI. Funny story. A customer did get a GREAT deal once. It wasn't his intention to deceive; but, had done a few things to a WRX, including badging it with STI badges. Brought it in for a trade. The appraiser at the time thought it WAS an STI and priced it accordingly. The saddest(or funniest) part about that? It was a Bugeye. I guess it's good everything is done by VIN now, eh?
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Old 01-15-2022, 10:40 AM   #406
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I know. I mean the car badging like it IS an STI. Funny story. A customer did get a GREAT deal once. It wasn't his intention to deceive; but, had done a few things to a WRX, including badging it with STI badges. Brought it in for a trade. The appraiser at the time thought it WAS an STI and priced it accordingly. The saddest(or funniest) part about that? It was a Bugeye. I guess it's good everything is done by VIN now, eh?
Hahah that is funny. I always assume most people at the dealership are not fans, just employees.

I have no problem with official STI-badged/stickered parts, nor the BRZ tS. I have a STI sticker on the rear window of my Crosstrek to support the motorsports team/brand, but I would never put a STI-badge on the paint to try and say the car was tuned or from STI.
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Old 01-15-2022, 11:05 AM   #407
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Hahah that is funny. I always assume most people at the dealership are not fans, just employees.

I have no problem with official STI-badged/stickered parts, nor the BRZ tS. I have a STI sticker on the rear window of my Crosstrek to support the motorsports team/brand, but I would never put a STI-badge on the paint to try and say the car was tuned or from STI.
Yeah. We have three dealerships. He, at the time, was our appraiser for all three. Didn't spend much time here. We'd just call him or take him the car. We've since started doing them "in house". He certainly learned his lesson. That was a good $$$ lesson he learned.


From what they showed/told us, it is completely feasible they could make a true, badass Solterra STI. Do I think they will....ever? Nah. I could see a more powerful higher trim; but, I think any improvements in the future will be more of a range thing. I just don't see, at this time, a Solterra customer being one to worry about racing that Tesla Plaid.
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Old 01-15-2022, 03:43 PM   #408
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Watering down the STI, to me, are those that put a couple parts on their car then put the STI logo on it.
So, when an individual does it on one car, it's watering down the brand, but when the manufacturer does it, it's not? Okay.

Sti making and selling parts is fine. Should they be adorned with the sti logo or color? Not on a non sti car, imo.

They're following in the footsteps of all of the other brands though. Whatever let's them raise prices.
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Old 01-15-2022, 05:54 PM   #409
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So, when an individual does it on one car, it's watering down the brand, but when the manufacturer does it, it's not? Okay.

Sti making and selling parts is fine. Should they be adorned with the sti logo or color? Not on a non sti car, imo.

They're following in the footsteps of all of the other brands though. Whatever let's them raise prices.
Ummmm.......since it's STI actually doing it.......as a new car......then yeah. I'm OK with it. An individual doing it is just as bad as going to Autozone and getting a "turbo" badge and putting it on. The STI badging on any particular part that is installed? That's fine. Subaru/STI dictates what is or isn't STI. Not an individual.

I can't argue the raising prices thing though. Probably true. They are a business to make money, though.
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Old 01-15-2022, 10:09 PM   #410
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Old 01-15-2022, 10:32 PM   #411
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Yeah. We have three dealerships. He, at the time, was our appraiser for all three. Didn't spend much time here. We'd just call him or take him the car. We've since started doing them "in house". He certainly learned his lesson. That was a good $$$ lesson he learned.


From what they showed/told us, it is completely feasible they could make a true, badass Solterra STI. Do I think they will....ever? Nah. I could see a more powerful higher trim; but, I think any improvements in the future will be more of a range thing. I just don't see, at this time, a Solterra customer being one to worry about racing that Tesla Plaid.
I’m all for a Solterra tS. That just gives them more data points and research for our future STI EV.

Doesn’t need to be Plaid. The basic Model Y LR AWD is quicker than a STI to 60.
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Old 01-26-2022, 04:49 PM   #412
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Just got an email:

“The opportunity to reserve a new Subaru Solterra is coming soon*. To make sure you don’t miss out on this exciting opportunity visit Subaru.com/Solterra-ev and click on "Get Vehicle Updates".

*Reservation Opportunities do not guarantee a vehicle. Based on availability. Requires $250 refundable deposit.”
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Old 01-29-2022, 10:40 AM   #413
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The Solterra, bZ4x, and RZ 450e are all closely related. Based on the numbering, we can expect that the RZ 450e will be around 320-350hp. No reason that Subaru couldn’t take those same motors and battery pack for the Solterra and make an STI version.
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Just got an email:

“The opportunity to reserve a new Subaru Solterra is coming soon*. To make sure you don’t miss out on this exciting opportunity visit Subaru.com/Solterra-ev and click on "Get Vehicle Updates".

*Reservation Opportunities do not guarantee a vehicle. Based on availability. Requires $250 refundable deposit.”
with reservations opening soon, it's only a matter of time to we get pricing, any chance we get pricing in the beginning of april
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Old 02-08-2022, 11:45 AM   #415
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Reservations should be open today, but the website is silent.
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Old 02-08-2022, 12:11 PM   #416
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according to the media site (https://media.subaru.com/pressrelease/1858/...) it went live at noon and you can see it now.

Sounds like pricing will come out April/May.
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the colors seem to be very limited, it seems all the colors have a different color code from what the usual name is.
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some Japanese documents say the solterra has a cruising range of 460km. that is 285miles. is that what they mean when they says over 220miles. because almost 300miles is very good
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some Japanese documents say the solterra has a cruising range of 460km. that is 285miles. is that what they mean when they says over 220miles. because almost 300miles is very good
WLTP vs EPA? The EPA range is more conservative compared to WLTP.
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WLTP vs EPA? The EPA range is more conservative compared to WLTP.
hopefully official specs let us know the actual range and it's closer to 285 miles
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hopefully official specs let us know the actual range and it's closer to 285 miles
Very unlikely with a 71.4 kWh battery pack, especially if the subordinate motor doesn't sleep.
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I put in a pre-order for a Solterra yesterday. If the off-road capabilities turn out as advertised, or as good as the Crosstrek, I may end up with two EVs, and no ICE car.

That means selling my Crosstrek. I had the dealer do an appraisal on it for a trade-in, and to my surprise, the offer was very close to what I paid for it back in the fall of 2017. Apparently in Canada, the Crosstrek is a very hot item, and used ones are very scarce and dear. New ones are sold out until next year. They don't allow new car MSRP mark-ups in Canada, so that cleans out the inventory pretty good.

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It's probably about as useful as most CUV these days.

Here is the Toyota bz4x concept twin.

The first is the first electric car from Subaru, but they already had a hybrid. So we can say they have perfected the technology. This means that their electric cars will be traditionally reliable, and there will be fewer breakdowns. And this is an important factor, more see it here. As far as resemblance and so on. Well, if you look with an amateurish look, then yes, there is a resemblance to the Toyota. And look closely - and what? The Subaru's front is the same as a Subaru's should be. They are different, but it will be possible to understand this only after we ride ...

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The first is the first electric car from Subaru, but they already had a hybrid. So we can say they have perfected the technology. This means that their electric cars will be traditionally reliable, and there will be fewer breakdowns. And this is an important factor. As far as resemblance and so on. Well, if you look with an amateurish look, then yes, there is a resemblance to the Toyota. And look closely - and what? The Subaru's front is the same as a Subaru's should be. They are different, but it will be possible to understand this only after we ride ...
Profound 1st post here. Care to explain a little more?
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