Official: Subaru Solterra (EV) ...coming 2022 - Page 3

SCRAPPYDO · 05-12-2021, 10:06 AM

once you start going electric do you really care about what platform? All the steering feel and fun is already sucked out of the car for battery weight and packaging. Seriously, one chassis would be better between two car companies. The more people that share one platform the better. It will speed up what EV fans want. Autonomous driving and complete removal from the actual driving experience. Chassis commonality will put all vehicle 'dynamics' into software people first, who will be able to 'tune' out any inherent chassis shortcomings.

shared chassis will mean larger parts commonality, charging infrastructure similarities, and hopefully price drops so those who really want an EV an afford them easier.

I hope the Toyota/Subaru EV platform is 100% identical. It would be good to have some more Toyota Reliability in a Subaru.

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R P · 05-12-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

I hope the Toyota/Subaru EV platform is 100% identical. It would be good to have some more Toyota Reliability in a Subaru.

Yup, this is a very good thing. Toyota had lots of time to come up with this new vehicle, so hopefully there will be less new product bugs, which we have experienced with Subaru.

subyski · 05-12-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chanomatik

"e-SGP" is redundant, because back in 2016 when Subaru debuted their SGP it already included "e".

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a1...uture-subarus/
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Not really. Hyundai/Kia is using this approach in flexible platform as their Kona/Ioniq/Niro offers gas hybrid, PHEV, and EV varients. They are also coming out with their dedicated Ioniq 5/EV6 using a dedicated EV platform (skateboard). But the difference is Hyundai/Kia is offered their flexible platform EV first.

Hyundai is pricing the Ioniq 5 near the Model 3 Long Range model price (UK, at least). The Kona/Niro EV's are still cheaper. My guess is that the Subaru/Toyota EV's will be priced similarly, so EV based SGP Impreza, Outback, Forester could still be the cheaper options.....if they ever come to fruition.

This e-SGP seems more marketing as to advertise that it's not just a Toyota platform, but we'll have to wait and see what/if any differences between e-SGP and e-TNGA.

dwf137 · 05-12-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

It will speed up what EV fans want. Autonomous driving and complete removal from the actual driving experience.

This is not what all people want an EV to be. And the sooner manufacturers realize that, the sooner that more people will buy one, imho.

I'm all on board for an EV. But I don't want some apple-like tesla, nor do I want a dorky looking turd like a leaf. I'm usually function over form, but only to an extent. I'm not stooping that low. I also don't want autonomous features. Put AEB in there if needed, but please, no autonomous features.

The Subaru/Toyota collab EV might be okay, although the huge tablet in the Toyota doesn't quite fit what I'm looking for. The etron q4 is honestly the highest on my list at the moment of the teased EV's, but I'm more likely to just wait until something like an ID.3R comes out, since I think VW will be the first to introduce an affordable EV with at least some lens towards sporty driving.

bugatti0628 · 05-12-2021, 02:03 PM

do we have anyone willing to shed some light on the teaser image. and it looks like subaru is ready to introduce acura type headlights on the new Subaru. we await the first official spyshots.

dwf137 · 05-12-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bugatti0628

do we have anyone willing to shed some light on the teaser image. and it looks like subaru is ready to introduce acura type headlights on the new Subaru. we await the first official spyshots.

aside from the LED DRL layout, they look very similar to the Toyota headlights.

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho...1#post46551921

left footed whooten · 05-12-2021, 02:33 PM

In the future, all restaurants are taco bell. Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!
Its nearly impossible to be truly different and unique anymore and we have to accept that.

left footed whooten · 05-12-2021, 02:33 PM

In the future, all restaurants are taco bell. Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!
Its nearly impossible to be truly different and unique anymore and we have to accept that. At least to be unique,different, and desirable. They could use dried turds for headlights, and different it would be, but...

Snow Drift · 05-12-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bugatti0628

do we have anyone willing to shed some light on the teaser image. and it looks like subaru is ready to introduce acura type headlights on the new Subaru. we await the first official spyshots.

Nothing to see.

Calamity Jesus · 05-12-2021, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by murrdogg24

now we know who has ultra wide monitors...

I think it has more to do with bizarrely low data caps in Germany.

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Originally Posted by SCRAPPYDO

once you start going electric do you really care about what platform? All the steering feel and fun is already sucked out of the car for battery weight and packaging.

This has nothing do with the cars being electric and everything to do with choices made by the manufacturers. Do you think a Tesla Roadster (not the vaporware one with jets, the one based on a Lotus Elise platform) has poor steering feel? The i3 feels and drives better than the 4-series, no doubt.

Tesla aimed their cars at boring cars with high margins.. Toyotas and Lexus.

Tesla needs to up their steering/chassis/dampening/bushing/seat bolster game to compete with //M cars. The base model Mach-E is already boasting better steering feel than the Model Y.

Anyway, this will be a Toyota SUV with Subaru badges, so it'll likely have no road feel at all.

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Originally Posted by dwf137

This is not what all people want an EV to be. And the sooner manufacturers realize that, the sooner that more people will buy one, imho.

I'm looking forward to the Mustang Mach-E GT.. but really, I want to see what an SVT (or whatever they're calling their stuff these days) Mach-E looks like. Also, modding a used Tesla is getting more and more appealing.

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neg_matnik · 05-13-2021, 03:49 PM

^ Holy cow; 315 square setup on a Model 3, darn it, that does look good going down the canyons

SCRAPPYDO · 05-13-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dwf137

This is not what all people want an EV to be. And the sooner manufacturers realize that, the sooner that more people will buy one, imho.

I'm all on board for an EV. But I don't want some apple-like tesla, nor do I want a dorky looking turd like a leaf. I'm usually function over form, but only to an extent. I'm not stooping that low. I also don't want autonomous features. Put AEB in there if needed, but please, no autonomous features.

The Subaru/Toyota collab EV might be okay, although the huge tablet in the Toyota doesn't quite fit what I'm looking for. The etron q4 is honestly the highest on my list at the moment of the teased EV's, but I'm more likely to just wait until something like an ID.3R comes out, since I think VW will be the first to introduce an affordable EV with at least some lens towards sporty driving.

I can see that, I still really like that Honda EV CCVC thing they had a while back.

I like that one. AND I think that VW EV van is going to be crazy cool

dwf137 · 05-13-2021, 05:10 PM

I'd totally be down for that little honda, but apparently they don't think the US wants something like that, and I can't really blame them. It is pretty small, and small cars aren't exactly flying off dealers lots. I think mfrs are targeting the most popular categories to try to get as much traction as possible to pay off the upfront design costs quickly. In the US, that's the small SUV category. Europe, hatchbacks.

But once those initial upfront design costs are recouped, I think these manufacturers will pivot to offering EV equivalents of everything they make. I think we'll get fun EV's, eventually. But for now, it's the bread and butter volume sellers...

djramz · 05-13-2021, 06:01 PM

Solterra... Nice name!

dwf137 · 05-13-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djramz

Solterra... Nice name!

Ask your doctor today, if Solterra is right for you.

chanomatik · 05-14-2021, 06:02 AM

Oh snap! You finally made it click why the name felt off!

SVX WRX · 05-14-2021, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dwf137

Ask your doctor today, if Solterra is right for you.

Solterra may cause liver damage, nausea, diarrhea, burning when you urinate, and frequent trips to the dealer.

fredzy · 05-14-2021, 08:06 AM

Thanks, now I need some aloe from being too close to that burn

mcarb002 · 05-14-2021, 09:02 AM

Sol is Spanish for sun and terra is Italian for land/earth...Japanese be coming up with some weird names. Soltera is also Spanish for single woman lol

JRodrigues · 05-14-2021, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mcarb002

Sol is Spanish for sun and terra is Italian for land/earth...Japanese be coming up with some weird names. Soltera is also Spanish for single woman lol

Actually, Sol is sun in portuguese, and Terra is earth in..... portuguese.

JP Chestnut · 05-14-2021, 09:40 AM

Actually they’re both Latin.

Snow Drift · 05-14-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JRodrigues

Actually, Sol is sun in portuguese, and Terra is earth in..... portuguese.

Lol, all of these (Italian, Portuguese, Spanish, etc.) are Romance Languages derived from Latin. So you are all correct, but let's keep it simple with the origin of the word.

Sol = Sun in Latin
Terra = Earth in Latin

This is where we get the English words Solar and Terraforming, thanks to our French cousins (another Romance Language from Latin).

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Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Actually they're both Latin.

Yuppers.

4S-TURBO · 05-14-2021, 11:49 AM

It's literally in their press release.

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The name Solterra was created using the Latin words for “Sun” and “Earth” to represent Subaru’s commitment to deliver traditional SUV capabilities in an environmentally responsible package.

kimguroo · 05-14-2021, 12:15 PM

Hope it will not be 250 miles range, 8 sec 0-60, 20-80% charging speed for 50min and cost 43k.

left footed whooten · 05-14-2021, 12:30 PM

Potato, tomato, its time for two turnips in heat.

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SCRAPPYDO Scooby Guru Member#: 873 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: www.testdrivemylife.com Vehicle: 2020 JEEP / RAM Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000	once you start going electric do you really care about what platform? All the steering feel and fun is already sucked out of the car for battery weight and packaging. Seriously, one chassis would be better between two car companies. The more people that share one platform the better. It will speed up what EV fans want. Autonomous driving and complete removal from the actual driving experience. Chassis commonality will put all vehicle 'dynamics' into software people first, who will be able to 'tune' out any inherent chassis shortcomings. shared chassis will mean larger parts commonality, charging infrastructure similarities, and hopefully price drops so those who really want an EV an afford them easier. I hope the Toyota/Subaru EV platform is 100% identical. It would be good to have some more Toyota Reliability in a Subaru. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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bugatti0628 Scooby Newbie Member#: 447323 Join Date: May 2016	do we have anyone willing to shed some light on the teaser image. and it looks like subaru is ready to introduce acura type headlights on the new Subaru. we await the first official spyshots.

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