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Old 02-25-2005, 08:03 AM   #1
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Default Spring's Sprung

Hey there,

Well the springs got installed yesterday. I want to add pics here. What do I do?

A couple interesting notes: On the front, the springs are smaller in diameter than stock, so that is why you need the new upper spring seats there. If you buy the springs be sure to have new "isolators" included. They did not send me any, and we found out after everything was pulled apart! The options were cut the old ones down to size, or leave at the garage to two more days waiting for a rush order from Subaru. I had them cut them. I don't see any problems coming from this, but uncut would be better than cut, so don't forget to ask about this. I already informed Rennick. An interesting note: Scorpion spirngs are shorter then the stocks! But they are heavier and so don't compress as much. I can't wait to see how much I gained. Looks like at least an inch.

The backs were no problem.

As of right now, the only difference I have felt in the ride (short trip home from High Tech Truck Center in Chantilly, VA) is that the car fells tighter. The ride is not harsh at all, and there is still some give in it. I will find some speed bumps today to test the spine crush factor, but so far it feels great. I would like to see the car sprung this tight right off the lot. The stiffer springs will also help with a trailer I think.

Once again, I can't say enough good things about High Tech in Chantilly, VA. All you NOVA guys, go there! This job was more involved than anyone first thought it would be, and as the hours added up their clock slowed way down. So I have no complaints. I started using them for my Grand Wagoneer, because they always found a way to get it fixed well, whenever I needed it. Good guys and into trucks, and now the only place on the east coast that has lifted a Baja! ;-)
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Old 02-25-2005, 11:19 AM   #2
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Default The unofficial results

Okay, the unofficial results are in. It looks like I picked up about 1.1 inches with the springs. A far cry from the two inches Renick was talking about and not even the 1.5 that was listed in their Web content. I was hoping for 1.5. Oh well. The improved ride and loading capacity are still valuable additions.

Once the snow melts I will measure from the differential to the ground for a better reading.

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Old 02-25-2005, 01:24 PM   #3
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So, you are saying the you are basically at the same height as the 04 and 05. That is not cool for the 04 05 what are we going to do if we want a lift.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #4
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So, you are saying the you are basically at the same height as the 04 and 05. That is not cool for the 04 05 what are we going to do if we want a lift.
Just measured the distance between the differential and the ground. With a full tank of gas that now comes to 9.5 inches! So, that is a good gain, more than the 1.1 I initially thought! I am happier now.

As for 04 and 05, you need to find out how the lift was done to your cars. If it is a body lift, then you will gain the additional 1-1.5 inches. If it is suspension, then I guess you won't.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:30 PM   #5
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Just got my springs today, I'll let you guys know about an '05 when they're on. Since the springs' part numbers are the same 03-05, as well as top hats, I'm banking it's body lift (which I believe has been discussed before).
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Old 02-25-2005, 06:44 PM   #6
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Yeah let us know how they look on an 05. I also want to know if the camber is affected by raising it....
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Old 02-25-2005, 06:50 PM   #7
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I'd say it's a given to have the alignment done anytime you do suspension work, especially on an awd car.
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Old 02-25-2005, 06:54 PM   #8
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yeah, but some cars cannot be allign that much so I was just wordering.
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Old 02-25-2005, 07:46 PM   #9
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I gotcha. I'll see if I can get a print out of the alignment job.
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:38 PM   #10
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Damn, I tossed my alignment report.

The tech said it was way out (of course) once the new springs were in, but was impressed that he could get it back to factory spec without any problems. It drives great now too.
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Old 02-27-2005, 10:45 PM   #11
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Do you have pics?
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Old 02-27-2005, 11:21 PM   #12
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How much for everything?
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Old 02-28-2005, 02:59 AM   #13
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Perry,
I'm waiting on the egde of my seat for the report on how bigger tires fit. My spring and body lift should be coming soon

With a less than a 1.5 lift, I think you'll still have to cut the inside of the fenders to avoid rub.

1-10 scale how difficult was the install for the springs? what were the unexpected problems that you all ran into? I'm gonna try to do this myself (and a friend who used to do this kind of stuff a tire shop)

thanks Perry, and again, congrats.
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Old 03-02-2005, 02:02 PM   #14
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Hi,

Yes, I have pictures. I want to post them, but I don't know how. Someone file me in.

I hate to say it, but I had the springs installed rather than doing it myself. I needed the car, and the weather was really bad, so...

The springs and seats were 400 delivered. The install was about 6 hours of their time. No special tools were needed, other than a spring compressor and a wheel alignment system. All told the install with alignment was about 500. That hurt, but at least it was done on time, not over several weekends.

As for fitting bigger meats, that is gonna have to wait until I actually need new tires. But, if you are getting both a spring and body lift, you will be well up out of the way.

Can someone with a stock 03 measure the distance between the rear diff and the ground and tell me what it is? Thanks

(Anecdotal note - my gf didn't know I got the springs put on, but remarked that the Baja seemed taller as soon as she was riding in it. Just a coincidence? You decide.)
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Old 03-02-2005, 02:43 PM   #15
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Old 03-02-2005, 04:15 PM   #16
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This is the Baja as it looks now.

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Old 03-02-2005, 04:16 PM   #17
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Hey cool, looks like it worked!

Anyway, the lift isn't super obvious, but notice the bottom of the car relative to the center of the wheels. It is about 1.5 higher than before.
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