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Old 02-03-2017, 02:59 PM   #801
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Are these new 19" wheels still forged BBS's?
19" forged wheels are going to be $$$. It's very likely an Enkei cast or flow formed wheel. They don't necessarily have to be heavy as the 19" Pretoria wheels (manufactured by BBS and Borbet) optional on Golf R's are only around 22 lbs which is pretty light for an OEM 19" wheel.
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:11 PM   #802
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I understand.
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I'll either come across a sweet GR at a good price or Subaru will get drunk and send the Levorg over.
Makes sense. And I'm the same with used. It's hit or miss and you don't usually come across enough paperwork to make owning it comfortable. For me at least. And when it comes to performance cars, it's even scarier.

Funny thing though, my STI insurance is a whole $5 per month more expensive than my Hawkeye WRX. Figure that eh? Haha. It gets roughly the same mpg though... and that was custom tuned stg 2. That motor felt more high-strung than this stock one. this one feels way smoother.

I always liked the GR hatch. I still like it better than the levorg tbh. I probably would've picked up a hatch if it existed now just cuz I had a sedan before, but I'm usually 50/50 on either one. If 2020 rolls around and there's no hatch I have a feeling lots of people will lose their *****
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Old 02-03-2017, 03:47 PM   #803
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Man I wish the wait time for a Golf R wasn't so ridiculous. Right now that's my ideal car for the years of my life without hair on top of my head.
Used (10k or less ODO) they are 33-35k right now. You may be able to find certified used for 34k.
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Old 02-03-2017, 04:16 PM   #804
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Used (10k or less ODO) they are 33-35k right now. You may be able to find certified used for 34k.
10k miles? That's barely broken in. I abuse cars for fun, so I would know. Haha

If I found a 2014 GR with 10k miles I'd probably jump on it.
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Old 02-03-2017, 04:43 PM   #805
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Used (10k or less ODO) they are 33-35k right now. You may be able to find certified used for 34k.
Not in Alaska. It's too late any ways, my WRX should be ready for pick up in April.
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Old 02-05-2017, 01:50 PM   #806
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Any real details on what this new "electronic" DCCD in the STi is?
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:45 PM   #807
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Any real details on what this new "electronic" DCCD in the STi is?
I want details too. It seems most likely that it'll be like the current center diff but all magnet driven without that mechanical cam
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:36 AM   #808
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Any real details on what this new "electronic" DCCD in the STi is?

This. ^


Nearly making me a bit nervous by not having any detail on it.
Of course it would be a surprise to me if for whatever reason they've messed with a very good thing resulted in a negative.. But,
I feel the money could have been spent in better areas.

I love the set up so much. That would be the absolute last thing on
my list of things that could or should be updated or addressed.

I wish they would release something about it.
None of you insiders here have anything?

This could be a ridiculous question, but.. With it being electronic; could
that potentially lead to it being even more tune-able via aftermarket
programming?
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:47 AM   #809
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This. ^


Nearly making me a bit nervous by not having any detail on it.
Of course it would be a surprise to me if for whatever reason they've messed with a very good thing resulted in a negative.. But,
I feel the money could have been spent in better areas.

I love the set up so much. That would be the absolute last thing on
my list of things that could or should be updated or addressed.

I wish they would release something about it.
None of you insiders here have anything?

This could be a ridiculous question, but.. With it being electronic; could
that potentially lead to it being even more tune-able easy to screw up via aftermarket
programming?
fixed that for ya
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Old 02-09-2017, 11:49 AM   #810
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I saw some info at iwsti suggesting that someone knew what the deal was... sounds like something with using electromagnets instead of something more mechanical for selecting the mode, but the diff would still function the same from a driving perspective... I didn't have time to dig through the whole thread, but the info might be buried in the thread over there.
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Old 02-09-2017, 12:51 PM   #811
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I saw some info at iwsti suggesting that someone knew what the deal was... sounds like something with using electromagnets instead of something more mechanical for selecting the mode, but the diff would still function the same from a driving perspective... I didn't have time to dig through the whole thread, but the info might be buried in the thread over there.
Read the same thing, using magnets. They had to change something for marketing reasons. They needed something to talk about. If the motor is unchanged it's likely not to be any significant change.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:09 PM   #812
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My guess is that it was changed for MPG reasons, but we shall see.
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Old 02-09-2017, 01:11 PM   #813
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Read the same thing, using magnets. They had to change something for marketing reasons. They needed something to talk about. If the motor is unchanged it's likely not to be any significant change.
Yeah I question the "quicker response" they said it gets being all electronic. Who knew there was even a lag time having the mechanical portion there

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My guess is that it was changed for MPG reasons, but we shall see.
Or just component cost savings
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:05 AM   #814
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Current DCCD is both mechanical and electro magnetic.
The new dccd update will make fully electro magnetic. Why? Because electronics work faster and being it fully electro magnetic makes it less complex than mechanical. Reading some japanese articles about this, this new dccd update should improve power/torque transfer during cornering.
What subaru is doing is making STi faster and faster track car without adding any power to the engine, they all about improving chassis, suspension, steering, braking and transmission...
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:57 AM   #815
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itīs the center diff, how should it improve cornering?
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:05 AM   #816
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Old 02-10-2017, 08:19 AM   #817
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itīs the center diff, how should it improve cornering?
because center diff controls torque
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fixed that for ya
hahah...

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Current DCCD is both mechanical and electro magnetic.
The new dccd update will make fully electro magnetic. Why? Because electronics work faster and being it fully electro magnetic makes it less complex than mechanical. Reading some japanese articles about this, this new dccd update should improve power/torque transfer during cornering.
What subaru is doing is making STi faster and faster track car without adding any power to the engine, they all about improving chassis, suspension, steering, braking and transmission...
If this is their angle, which seems true, I'm more than fine with it..
More power is rarely the answer.
Of course I'd love some extra pull out of corners whether it be in the canyons,
or on the track.. but stability, power transfer and cornering speeds is more important to me.
I've waited this long.. I think the 18 may be my new whip for a couple of years
until I see what the new one brings.
Either that or I'll find a babied Hyper Blue..
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:46 PM   #819
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If the mechanicals are not eating power, it's putting more engine power to the ground and improving throttle response. Is the function being compromised? We gotta drive it to find out. Not sure we could really tell the difference on a typical test drive if Subaru tunes it to mimic a mechanical unit under certain loads.
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:54 PM   #820
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because center diff controls torque
torquemada's point is that the center diff does not control side-to-side torque and that's probably just as relevant to cornering if not more.
In fact, we basically don't know if these center diff changes will actually improve anything (except maybe reduce overall cost of the transaxle).
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torquemada's point is that the center diff does not control side-to-side torque and that's probably just as relevant to cornering if not more.
In fact, we basically don't know if these center diff changes will actually improve anything (except maybe reduce overall cost of the transaxle).
In controls front to rear, thats why theres auto/manual dial controler, you can adjust how much lock you want or just leave it on auto
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:07 PM   #822
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They are probably releasing this now because it's the direction the next generation STI is going where they will be looking to improve efficiency and fuel economy as right now the STI is the thirstiest car of its kind. The Golf R for example gets significantly better gas mileage and while the next STI will not likely have the ability to go FWD on the highway they have to look at other areas to improve in addition to a new engine.
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Old 02-10-2017, 01:59 PM   #823
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They are probably releasing this now because it's the direction the next generation STI is going where they will be looking to improve efficiency and fuel economy as right now the STI is the thirstiest car of its kind. The Golf R for example gets significantly better gas mileage and while the next STI will not likely have the ability to go FWD on the highway they have to look at other areas to improve in addition to a new engine.
Sti is the only true all wheel drive performance car on market right now, out of any price range.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:13 PM   #824
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exactly.. i hope this never changes.
i don't want ANYthing related to a haldex or electro packed rear axles in an STi... ever.
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Old 02-10-2017, 02:30 PM   #825
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I'll third that. I want my AWD all the time. I hope they don't follow the others with the part time AWD
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