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Old 09-28-2004, 03:04 AM   #1
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Any one that can give me some tips and maybe pics of there installs of this unit or something similar. I just bought one and i really do not want to pay some one for the install. Any help would be awsome. I tried to search but just came up empty handed.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:34 AM   #2
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I really hate to get into this. I am an installer, and I do this for a living. Giving you directions on how to install that is contrary to my beliefs, and it almost nullifies my job.

I don't know how technically proficiant you are, and an AVIC N1 install isn't something that I would recommend an amateur to do.

you probably paid around 2000 dollars for that unit, if you can't shell out a couple of hundred dollars to have that professionally installed I don't see the logic in that. That unit needs to be professinally installed for it to work properly.

However in the interest of giving you some pointers let me break down tine install.

as far as installing the unit in your dash, it is just like doing a regular cd player install.
where it gets a little tricky is the rest of the install. You need to properly and securely mount the brain of the AVIC N1 for it to work properly. You also have the GPS antenna that needs to be installed. I highly recommend that you mount the antenna outside ( on the rear part of the roof would be ideal)
You also have to find the speed sense wire, the reverse input wire, and the hand brake wire ( to stay legal in most states). IF you aren't technically, and electrically proficiant.. I wouldn't even bother trying to do this.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:29 AM   #3
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You can DIY it..but like the guy said, if you shelled out over a grand for the unit, then you can probably afford 10% of the total price to have it professionally installed and guaranteed to work!
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:24 PM   #4
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its not really the point of paying for it its the fact that it feels good when u can do it yourself
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:38 PM   #5
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I really hate to get into this. I am an installer, and I do this for a living. Giving you directions on how to install that is contrary to my beliefs, and it almost nullifies my job.
I'd have to agree with locosti04.... I am also an installer and I usually tend to give the following advice, If you have to ask questions you almost shouldn't be doing the install. It is very similiar to a plumber installing a hot water heater. Is it hard for a plumber to install? No, of course not but that doesn't mean that any average home improvement handyman should attempt it.

wan2gofast, your don't mention which car you have but I'll assume it's either a WRX, STi, 2.5RS or other late model subaru. You wouldn't want to mess up you car so I would recommend a professional install. It isn't easy to start with a flip up monitor with integrated navigation and the rest of the features of that Pioneer unit and you wouldn't want to mess up the unit. I would therefore strongly advise professional installation to avoid future headaches and heartbreaks.

But if you have any specific questions, feel free to post or PM me and I'll try to lend a hand.

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Old 09-28-2004, 01:48 PM   #6
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I'd have to agree with locosti04.... I am also an installer and I usually tend to give the following advice, If you have to ask questions you almost shouldn't be doing the install.
I really have to disagree with that *in general*. I understand wan2gofast wanting to get the satisfaction of doing it himself.

However, the AVIC ins't what I would call a simple HU install if hooking up all of the bells and whistles of this unit.; and it isn't what I would recommend for someone to learn how-to on. And unless you have money to burn on a possible mistake, at the very least I would recommend finding a good installer in your area to do the install with you. That way you would get the satisfaction of learning with the assurance that it will not be smoked, work correctly, and most importantly that you don't screw up anything else in your car.

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Old 09-28-2004, 02:37 PM   #7
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Perhaps a middle of the road approach would be to pay someone to install the HU and nav-based features (VSS signal, hand break, headlight dimming, etc), but wan2gofast could handle power, amps, speakers, and the rest of the sound system.? I suspect that most shops will want to do the full install, but it might be possible to find someone who would do the nav on a time & materials basis...
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Old 09-28-2004, 09:00 PM   #8
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I really have to disagree with that *in general*. I understand wan2gofast wanting to get the satisfaction of doing it himself.

However, the AVIC ins't what I would call a simple HU install if hooking up all of the bells and whistles of this unit.; and it isn't what I would recommend for someone to learn how-to on. And unless you have money to burn on a possible mistake, at the very least I would recommend finding a good installer in your area to do the install with you. That way you would get the satisfaction of learning with the assurance that it will not be smoked, work correctly, and most importantly that you don't screw up anything else in your car.

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I didn't mean that you shouldn't ever ask questions, asking questions is the only way to learn however in the case of the AVIC, it is a much more involved install than just a 'normal' headunit. If a normal head unit were the device in question I would say to go ahead and try it and ask plenty of questions. If wan2gofast had a few headunit installs under his belt then it would be another story as he would be experienced with this type of process and then would be pretty easy to install. However having to ask questions about a presumably first time install of an AVIC is like asking how to disarm a nuke, would you rather do it yourself or let someone with experience do it and watch and learn. I'm not trying to bring any kind of beef up with any members, just trying to save others from some costly mistakes and frustration

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Old 09-29-2004, 09:03 AM   #9
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I know you didn't mean it exactly that way this time jay25RS; and I wouldn't have bothered except that you had also quoted locosti04 whose comment was a little more extreme.

Anyway, since everyone pretty much agrees that this isn't a solo first-time adventure I am curious to see wan2gofast's reply on what his plans are now?

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Old 09-29-2004, 03:39 PM   #10
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Where is the speed detection circuit located on the wrx?SO I can hook up the gauge part of the avic n1
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:00 PM   #11
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I have the unit installed in my 02 WRX. I also have not found some of the areas to hook all the wires up to, however most of the gauges in the unit still work. I have the unit in the lower din and mounted the other piece under the drivers seat. I then ran the GPS antenna to sit right on top of the brake light in the rear window, still inside the car. It comes with a magnetic pad that you can stick to the brake light then just slap on the antenna. I can take pics for you if you need and email them to you. It really is a great unit, and I haven't even set everything up!!! I know there is a pink wire all wound up sitting under my floor mat, couldn't find where to put it :/
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Old 09-29-2004, 09:12 PM   #12
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The pink wire is the one that attaches to the ecu or the cluster.Just need to find out which way to go.
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Old 09-29-2004, 11:29 PM   #13
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i'll actually be helping in install this unit into his car, he owns an sti for someone that was wondering above
i have several hu "under my belt" and i also helped my brother install his alpine dvd nav hu in his maxima. plus you always got the mans worse friend the directions. I deffs think ask as many questions and try to do it yourself otherwise you'll never learn and only waste money paying people to install and that adds up quickly, just ask him, he paid someone to do all the work on his cougar, ahh long story haha
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Old 09-30-2004, 12:38 AM   #14
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I found that you can listen to music in the changer and use the dvd naving at the same time.and have the gauges going.So that 3 things at one time its crazy.
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Old 03-29-2005, 12:05 AM   #15
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This unit is not that bad to install. I am MECP certified and it took about 5 hours. Tapping your reverse signal and speed signal is actually pretty easy. Just take off your gauge cluster, vampire tap the speed signal, put it back. Pull back your trunk lining and tap your reverse wire. The wires to tap can be found on some forum, I forget which. Just search for speed signal. I would avoid tapping the ECU at all costs though. If you are new at this, you can achieve it, but just be extra careful, UNHOOK the negative battery terminal!, be 100% sure of what wires you tap. Routing the wires is actually really easy (thanks to subaru) Just pull back your side sills, take out your back seat (bottom part only). I mounted the rear view camera in the rear deck brake light housing and the GPS receiver on top of that (magnet is strong enough to hold and I get a great signal) My XM antenna is on the roof and it gets a comparable signal. Hope you can benefit a tiny bit from this, e-mail any questions you want or post etc
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:32 PM   #16
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5 hours! holy $#it! It should only take a couple of hours tops for an experienced installer.
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:43 PM   #17
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I took less than 5 hours taking out an Alpine CD player and XM Commander and modifying the space next to the dash trim cup holder for a flush mounted Greddy Profec boost controller and putting in an AVIC N1 and Pioneer XM and changer. (04 STI -customer's car)
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Old 04-08-2005, 05:19 PM   #18
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i have the avic-n1 and i installed it myself very easy where do you live i can install it for you
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Old 04-11-2005, 04:27 AM   #19
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5 hours! holy $#it! It should only take a couple of hours tops for an experienced installer.
hahaha it was my 1st install and i was being super careful taking my sweet time and routing all the wires with extreme care using looms and ties and all. every detail was very closely worked out. the unit was also defective which accounted for about 1.5 hours of me on the phone with pioneer sitting in my car screwing around with it, but i eventually got it replaced and it dropped in perfectly. since this initial install i have uninstalled and reinstalled it 3 times moving it from place to place and just that part only takes me about 15 minutes max. i am not defending myself so much as explaining myself, i know it took me a darn long time, lol.
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BTW i got certified right before this and had no previous experience.
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