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Old 01-10-2020, 09:31 AM   #1
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https://wnep.com/2020/01/09/subaru-i...could-explode/

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Subaru is recalling nearly 500,000 cars for faulty airbags that could explode and shoot metal projectiles throughout the vehicle.

The recalls apply to a number of Subaru models released between 2003 and 2014 that have Takata airbags in the front passenger seat. These can explode when deployed and send sharp metal fragments flying, which could seriously injure or kill the driver or passengers.

The driver’s seat front airbag is not in danger of explosion, Subaru said.

The same crop of cars were recalled in 2015 for the same reason, though their airbag inflators were replaced with the same defective Takata design then, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said.

The Subaru models join “tens of millions” of vehicles with Takata airbags recalled again, the safety agency said.

The inflators could explode when the propellant that triggers the airbags degrades after many years of exposure to “high absolute humidity” — the amount of water vapor in an air sample — high temperatures and toggling between extreme heat and extreme cold, the NHTSA said.

Vehicles affected
2003-2006 Subaru Baja

2009-2013 Subaru Forester

2004-2011 Subaru Impreza

2003-2014 Subaru Legacy

2003-2014 Subaru Outback

2004-2014 Subaru WRX

The recall applies to those models sold or registered in all 50 states and Washington, plus Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands and the US Virgin Islands, the NHTSA said.

What to do
Subaru should notify all owners whose cars are affected by the recall. Local Subaru dealerships will replace all passenger air bag inflators for free with an appointment, and the repair should take about three hours, the company said.

Owners can also contact the Subaru recall team at 888-575-1382 or look up their vehicle identification number (VIN) with NHTSA to check whether their vehicle is subject to recall.

Parts are available for repairs now, but this could change due to the number of vehicles affected. Subaru warned passengers not to ride in the front passenger seat of affected vehicles until they’re repaired.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:15 PM   #2
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wow. this is pretty bad. I'm glad that I didn't opt for the 2004 STi interior swap on my 98 RSTi
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:30 PM   #3
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Didn't we already have this recall?

I had both my 12 Sti and my wifes 11 WRX airbag replaced about 6 months ago.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:34 PM   #4
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The same crop of cars were recalled in 2015 for the same reason, though their airbag inflators were replaced with the same defective Takata design then, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said.
Awesome.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:34 PM   #5
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Didn't we already have this recall?

I had both my 12 Sti and my wifes 11 WRX airbag replaced about 6 months ago.
Because local new outlets suck; and put this information in the middle of the article...

“The same crop of cars were recalled in 2015 for the same reason, though their airbag inflators were replaced with the same defective design “

AFFECTED VEHICLES
This phase of the Takata recall includes vehicles which may have had an interim (“like-for-like”)
repair performed under a previous airbag recall, to reduce the risk of injury before final remedy parts
were available


SO. If they were replaced once before they have to be reinspected and if the old design was replaced with the old design part , it has to be swapped out for the new design part.

Run your VIN and see if it applies to your vehicle

https://www.subaru.com/vehicle-recalls.html

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Old 01-10-2020, 01:41 PM   #6
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Awesome.
Amazing.

I checked both of mine and both do not say they need to be redone. I guess I'll wait a few months and check again.
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:11 PM   #7
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Takata is the gift that keeps giving.
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:21 PM   #8
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This is the same thing that happened to Honda, recall on a recall.
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Old 01-10-2020, 02:55 PM   #9
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The same crop of cars were recalled in 2015 for the same reason, though their airbag inflators were replaced with the same defective Takata design then, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said.

What in the ever loving ****. We just spent 3 months this past summer not sitting in the passenger seat.

Outback is getting traded in. **** Subaru. Done. Completely ****ing done. This company is dead to me.


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****! Same ****ing airbag design after getting this work done.

Welp, back to the dealer.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:22 PM   #11
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What in the ever loving ****. We just spent 3 months this past summer not sitting in the passenger seat.

Outback is getting traded in. **** Subaru. Done. Completely ****ing done. This company is dead to me.


Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:44 PM   #12
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What in the ever loving ****. We just spent 3 months this past summer not sitting in the passenger seat.

Outback is getting traded in. **** Subaru. Done. Completely ****ing done. This company is dead to me.


It’s NOT Just Subaru ; It’s ANY manufacturer that used Takata Bags, Takata supplies the bags, TRW had to make the millions of replacements,

So you may trade right into another brand doing the same thing for the second time , IT’s NOT Just Subaru. Pretty Much any vehicle sold in the US between 2000 and 2014 could have a Takata Bag and still need it’s first or second replacement. So if you’re gonna trade, better buy New.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:49 PM   #13
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It’s NOT Just Subaru ; It’s ANY manufacturer that used Takata Bags, Takata supplies the bags, TRW had to make the millions of replacements,

So you may trade right into another brand doing the same thing for the second time , IT’s NOT Just Subaru.
I don't care.

Subaru forced my wife and I to sit in the back seat of the car for 3 months to replace the air bag the first time around. There was absolutely ZERO indication that what we were receiving was another faulty airbag. None.

How hard would that have been? "We don't have a new airbag design yet, but to avoid killing you with a 4 year old airbag, we'll replace it with a new one to hold you over while we make some new ones".

Transparency, that's all I'm asking for. I understand that Takata was the one that f'd up, not Subaru, or Honda, or VW or whatever company, but just be forthcoming with information to your consumers.

It pissed me off enough that Subaru sold a 2014 Outback with a faulty airbag, AFTER these issues were well known and documented, let alone replace the damn airbag with the same faulty ****.

Done. Just Done. I've already done the research on our next vehicle and am just waiting for a few things to play out financially, this car will not be with us for much longer. Subaru is officially off my list for the foreseeable future.

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Old 01-10-2020, 06:33 PM   #14
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The only Subaru I own has a cage in it and no airbags.
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Old 01-10-2020, 06:39 PM   #15
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have the executives responsible for this mess performed seppuku, yet?
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The only Subaru I own has a cage in it and no airbags.
At this point that's what I'm considering.
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I don't care.

Subaru forced my wife and I to sit in the back seat of the car for 3 months to replace the air bag the first time around. There was absolutely ZERO indication that what we were receiving was another faulty airbag. None.

How hard would that have been? "We don't have a new airbag design yet, but to avoid killing you with a 4 year old airbag, we'll replace it with a new one to hold you over while we make some new ones".

Transparency, that's all I'm asking for. I understand that Takata was the one that f'd up, not Subaru, or Honda, or VW or whatever company, but just be forthcoming with information to your consumers.

It pissed me off enough that Subaru sold a 2014 Outback with a faulty airbag, AFTER these issues were well known and documented, let alone replace the damn airbag with the same faulty ****.

Done. Just Done. I've already done the research on our next vehicle and am just waiting for a few things to play out financially, this car will not be with us for much longer. Subaru is officially off my list for the foreseeable future.
Nice, big overreaction. The autos worked with NHTSA and NHTSA said it was safer for the autos to install Takata airbags for the short term knowing that those airbags would be a problem in the future rather than have the cars go without airbags at all. There are precious few suppliers for front seat airbags, so it's not like all of these manufacturers could switch over to a different airbag.

Heat and humidity over time is what makes Takata airbags go bad. They aren't dangerous in the near term of installment. NHTSA wanted cars with airbags knowing the manufacturers were going to have to swap them out before the airbags were likely to become dangerous.
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I replaced my second airbag. Thanks Crapkata!
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I just got the letter in the mail today

The 05 Legacy had the passenger airbag replaced a few years ago. I haven't gotten any notices about the 08 Outback, and this notice doesn't say which car.
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You got a letter? I found out here and typed my VIN in.
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I don't care.

Subaru forced my wife and I to sit in the back seat of the car for 3 months to replace the air bag the first time around. There was absolutely ZERO indication that what we were receiving was another faulty airbag. None.

How hard would that have been? "We don't have a new airbag design yet, but to avoid killing you with a 4 year old airbag, we'll replace it with a new one to hold you over while we make some new ones".

Transparency, that's all I'm asking for. I understand that Takata was the one that f'd up, not Subaru, or Honda, or VW or whatever company, but just be forthcoming with information to your consumers.

It pissed me off enough that Subaru sold a 2014 Outback with a faulty airbag, AFTER these issues were well known and documented, let alone replace the damn airbag with the same faulty ****.

Done. Just Done. I've already done the research on our next vehicle and am just waiting for a few things to play out financially, this car will not be with us for much longer. Subaru is officially off my list for the foreseeable future.
You’re blaming Subaru for a part they have no control over manufacturing? Personally, at most they should have offered to return the vehicle to you until the part comes in but I’m sure there is some legal liability with that they don’t want to take.
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Got my letter yesterday. There was a WTF moment for them asking to do the same recall twice.
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My injected molded dash is starting to glue. I should have opted for the new dash TSB, especially after they chunked some of it during the first airbag replacement. I didn't want to wait though and have them just fudged the new one. Goddam hot mess this is.
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My injected molded dash is starting to glue. I should have opted for the new dash TSB, especially after they chunked some of it during the first airbag replacement. I didn't want to wait though and have them just fudged the new one. Goddam hot mess this is.
Same, I'm not looking forward to them messing up my dash some more.
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I don't care.

Subaru forced my wife and I to sit in the back seat of the car for 3 months to replace the air bag the first time around. There was absolutely ZERO indication that what we were receiving was another faulty airbag. None.

How hard would that have been? "We don't have a new airbag design yet, but to avoid killing you with a 4 year old airbag, we'll replace it with a new one to hold you over while we make some new ones".

Transparency, that's all I'm asking for. I understand that Takata was the one that f'd up, not Subaru, or Honda, or VW or whatever company, but just be forthcoming with information to your consumers.

It pissed me off enough that Subaru sold a 2014 Outback with a faulty airbag, AFTER these issues were well known and documented, let alone replace the damn airbag with the same faulty ****.

Done. Just Done. I've already done the research on our next vehicle and am just waiting for a few things to play out financially, this car will not be with us for much longer. Subaru is officially off my list for the foreseeable future.
You seem like a customer subaru would gladly be OK with leaving. Service advisors must love it when you step in to a dealership.
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