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Old 03-27-2012, 01:03 AM   #3476
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He knows what he's doing. I can have him tune me with it, I was just afraid to rely on it you know? Im curious as to what itll put me at though if I'm 358whp on 16psi.. If we use the same tune but lean it out
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:14 PM   #3477
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Putting a smaller nozzle or put in a smaller rtrictor or trim the spary down by a tad with the offset trimmer. It is a shame that you are not really using the full capability of the HFS-6 - still the most advanced system we made to date.

The HFS-6 still works even under power supply failure condition.
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Old 03-27-2012, 06:42 PM   #3478
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Well I'll eventually get it tuned in but for the mean time. I have a .8 nozzle the smallest i have. I don't know how to adjust trim.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:46 PM   #3479
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The offset trimmer is inside the controller.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:57 PM   #3480
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So if I turn it back a couple it should work okay for temporary then?
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:05 PM   #3481
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yes. that is all is needed.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:19 PM   #3482
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Thanks for all the help. I'll make sure to have it incorp in the next tune
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:44 AM   #3483
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I have a new 2012 WRX. I don't want to add a lot of mods, but i'd like to pick up 300 or a little over 300 whp. What are the possible downfalls to running a 50/50 alcohol mix on my car? Understanding of course that there are always small things that can go wrong. How much HP is a reasonably attainable goal for my car with just the AM system and a protune? Stock otherwise. Others can chime in if they would like.
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Old 04-01-2012, 04:07 PM   #3484
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I have a new 2012 WRX. I don't want to add a lot of mods, but i'd like to pick up 300 or a little over 300 whp. What are the possible downfalls to running a 50/50 alcohol mix on my car? Understanding of course that there are always small things that can go wrong. How much HP is a reasonably attainable goal for my car with just the AM system and a protune? Stock otherwise. Others can chime in if they would like.
If you are willing to install a catless downpipe + aquamist + engine management you will gain a very good amount of power. Aquamist kits are great for their failsafe capabilities, linearity to fuel injection, and PWM system.

I got the HFS3V2 and have been loving it ever since. If you get one, make sure it is installed properly to reduce chances of failure.
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Old 04-01-2012, 05:19 PM   #3485
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The water/meth alone will increase knock margin, downpipe is good idea but not necessary (especially catless) to improve power. Protune implies some kind of engine management system.
As for hard power figures - difficult to tell, depends on too many things (my guess you would be close to stg2 w/o downpipe - I reserve the right to be wrong)

I also have an HFS3 - definitely recommended (good price to value ratio, and by value I mean failsafe and PWM injector)
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Old 04-01-2012, 07:22 PM   #3486
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awesome info guys thanks. I've been interested in doing this for quite a while. I wanted to do it with my 370z but I was told by a lot of people that for an NA car it would do very little for me. I don't know what it is about it makes it so fascinating to me lol, I just really want to do it. I guess I would like to have the added power, but not by adding a whole lot of mods. Bang for buck I think is the phrase i'm looking for.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:46 PM   #3487
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I am trying to clear out the old meth from storing the car for the winter and cant seem to get the pump to activate on my 06STI. Here is what I am doing.

Jumper from PRK to TST ignition on, and nothing.

It is been a while since I have had to do this so I just want to know if I am missing something.

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Old 04-02-2012, 11:24 PM   #3488
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ok guys I have another question. I know that an EM system is obviously advised for a water injection system such as this. I don't want to have to go through the whole buying and installing a WB02 if I don't have to. If I buy the system... hook it up and have it protuned is that good enough? Or do I really need to have a way to accurately show me my AFR at all times?

I just didn't know if this system is a set it and forget it type of thing or not.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:29 AM   #3489
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ok guys I have another question. I know that an EM system is obviously advised for a water injection system such as this. I don't want to have to go through the whole buying and installing a WB02 if I don't have to. If I buy the system... hook it up and have it protuned is that good enough? Or do I really need to have a way to accurately show me my AFR at all times?

I just didn't know if this system is a set it and forget it type of thing or not.
you would only need an O2 sensor for tuning. No need afterwards, but it is nice to have.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:43 AM   #3490
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you would only need an O2 sensor for tuning. No need afterwards, but it is nice to have.
Yeah, don't get me wrong it's definitely nice to have... I just don't want to have to hook all of this stuff up. I didn't want to get to many mods for the car. I want to get about 300-320 whp... on a mustang dyno if possible, but if not, that's ok. I don't know if a tune + this system will put me there... I don't have anything against adding a catted downpipe, i'd rather not go full TBE. Like I said earlier.. I just want bang for the buck and am just wondering if the Aquamist system.. or any system for that matter needs to constantly be monitored or if everything is set basically in stone once the protune is finished.
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:11 PM   #3491
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Methodically,

The Aquamist system is a set-once and tune-once system. At anytime you forgot to fillthe tank up of in the event of a clogged nozzle or cut hose, it will automatically reduce boost back to wastegate setting. Even the in-tank filter is self-cleaning.

All you need to do is to fill the water tank up every so often.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:36 PM   #3492
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The Aquamist system is a set-once and tune-once system. At anytime you forgot to fillthe tank up of in the event of a clogged nozzle or cut hose, it will automatically reduce boost back to wastegate setting. Even the in-tank filter is self-cleaning.

All you need to do is to fill the water tank up every so often.
Thanks for the info... that's definitely nice to hear. Puts it on my list of mods to get!
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Old 04-04-2012, 12:27 AM   #3493
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The only reason you should change settings, will be for reasons that would require a retune anyway. Bigger injectors, different mix concentration, etc.
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Old 04-09-2012, 03:13 PM   #3494
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I have a hsf-4 installed recently. I am not sure is my battery is dying or other problem.

Here is what happen:

most of the time, when i release my gas pedal on freeway or local for like around 2 second, the dds3 gauge turns off and restart with 1 orange led on the bottom and back on. With a/c and headlight on, dds3 will reset when the auto climate a/c turns on and off by itself.

Please help!!!
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Old 04-10-2012, 08:04 AM   #3495
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I have heard this before, about a year ago. See fix below:
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/...ead.php?t=2113

Please check the wiring. Especially the red wire of the grey harness.

Richard

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Old 04-12-2012, 01:25 AM   #3496
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thanks for the advice, i will check the wire out this weekend.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:46 PM   #3497
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What kind of grease is suggested for the orings for the restrictor and the other fittings on the FAV?
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:25 PM   #3498
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Please dismiss the grease comment. Just wet it with some water.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:30 PM   #3499
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Whew, good thing I asked first!
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Old 04-14-2012, 07:54 PM   #3500
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Take your time on the install, it is worth it.
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