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Old 08-06-2019, 01:22 PM   #76
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having owned a 92 impreza, that car would be an experience, to say the least, with 300hp.
Which is why people swap them, or like me, people are currently waiting a few more years so they can legally import a later version WRX/STI. I personally want a V5, so I need to wait a couple more years.
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Old 08-06-2019, 03:27 PM   #77
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Worth checking out honda, the 1.5T SI is fairly quick with a hondata tune and intake.
Oof, if you're a person that feels the EJ is a unreliable engine, when tuned, that new Honda 1.5T will teach you a few new lessons about tuning and unreliability.

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Old 08-07-2019, 10:25 AM   #78
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the new fog bezels are looking way better than the current ones
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Old 08-07-2019, 10:47 AM   #79
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if they have those forged pistons, on top of at 330ft/lbs of torque, then modding will result in longer lasting builds and more reliable increases in power
That's the question on the 2020. Did Subaru finally put forged pistons in it? Or is that only the upper signature trims they've been doing small runs of the last few years.
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:23 AM   #80
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That's the question on the 2020. Did Subaru finally put forged pistons in it? Or is that only the upper signature trims they've been doing small runs of the last few years.
the 2020 are still on the old platform, I'm waiting to see if the 2021 will be on the new platform and the forged pistons along with it
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:21 PM   #81
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Pre is referring to Subaru using the updated strengthened versions they put in the special editions for the following model year base STI. In this case the S209 spec engine used for the 2020 base STI.
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Old 08-07-2019, 12:59 PM   #82
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I thought 2019 STI got RA engine?
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Old 08-07-2019, 01:11 PM   #83
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I thought 2019 STI got RA engine?
...so Pre is wondering if the 2020 STI will get the S209 engine and send the EJ off with a lesspotentialfora BANG.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:04 PM   #84
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Aaaahhhhhh.... Hell no. Those S209 things are handmade.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:14 PM   #85
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Welp, the Golf R is dead (for now). So I guess that means Subaru is the last one standing in the segment. Now they have even less of an incentive to update.

Long live the EJ, may it reign for another 20 years!
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:32 PM   #86
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Oof, if you're a person that feels the EJ is a unreliable engine, when tuned, that new Honda 1.5T will teach you a few new lessons about tuning and unreliability.
Ive been on the 10th gen civic forums for quite awhile and so far ive only heard of 1 Si with a blown motor and he was running meth and an aftermarket turbo. Please provide a link to back up your claim. 10th gen forums is full of modded Si's with no problems. Im on those forums every week.
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:34 PM   #87
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Welp, the Golf R is dead (for now). So I guess that means Subaru is the last one standing in the segment. Now they have even less of an incentive to update.

Long live the EJ, may it reign for another 20 years!
What do you mean the Golf R is dead? There are 55 in a 50 mile radius from me in NorCal. unless that's what you mean, and I'm not picking up on your sarcasm lol
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Old 08-07-2019, 03:37 PM   #88
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What do you mean the Golf R is dead? There are 55 in a 50 mile radius from me in NorCal. unless that's what you mean, and I'm not picking up on your sarcasm lol
they're stopping production on the R. At least temporarily...
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Old 08-07-2019, 04:15 PM   #89
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The factory that built the MK7 Golf R has switched over to Mk8 production and we won't get those for another year or two.
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Old 08-07-2019, 04:28 PM   #90
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I wonder if the electronic parking brake will be on both the WRX and the STi? It appears to be listed under "WRX". I'd prefer the E-brake, especially if it comes with an improved hill start function.
The E-Brake is only available on the WRX with the CVT. Mechanical hand brakes for all manuals. Same as this year.
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Old 08-07-2019, 04:52 PM   #91
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Ive been on the 10th gen civic forums for quite awhile and so far ive only heard of 1 Si with a blown motor and he was running meth and an aftermarket turbo. Please provide a link to back up your claim. 10th gen forums is full of modded Si's with no problems. Im on those forums every week.
Yeah. As am I. SI's seem to have stout engines, possibly marginal transmissions, and genuinely weak clutches. Type R's, outside of a couple bad transmissions have been rock solid. I've never heard of a stock SI suffering catastrophic engine failure while new, and people are a lot less finicky about taking care of them than is suggested for FAs and EJs on this forum. Even the oil dilution seems not to be a problem on the SI (it was on the 1.5T in the CRV when I looked at them for my wife).
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Old 08-07-2019, 05:51 PM   #92
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Oof, if you're a person that feels the EJ is a unreliable engine, when tuned, that new Honda 1.5T will teach you a few new lessons about tuning and unreliability.
No i'm not. I'm just leasing one until the new wrx comes out, or I get a HUGE pay raise and stop caring. I never had any issues with the 3 wrx's i owned.
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I honestly donít see how the STI carries forward beyond its current incarnation?
The WRX might have a few years remaining, but what could the specs on a future STI possibly be?
I saw a Nissan Leaf casually take off from a stop light leaving all others in its wake by several car lengths this morning. Outside of a track environment, I donít see how a future STI even presents itself as a marketable vehicle ?
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I honestly donít see how the STI carries forward beyond its current incarnation?
The WRX might have a few years remaining, but what could the specs on a future STI possibly be?
I saw a Nissan Leaf casually take off from a stop light leaving all others in its wake by several car lengths this morning. Outside of a track environment, I donít see how a future STI even presents itself as a marketable vehicle ?
Didn't realize the STI was a stop light racer.
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I mean, if you want a car that just stays ahead in traffic, just do jack rabbit starts like I do. It kills your mpg, but no one's blocking your path and you're more likely to make the light and bypass crapper mergers. Don't need a fast car for that.
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I honestly donít see how the STI carries forward beyond its current incarnation?
The WRX might have a few years remaining, but what could the specs on a future STI possibly be?
I saw a Nissan Leaf casually take off from a stop light leaving all others in its wake by several car lengths this morning. Outside of a track environment, I donít see how a future STI even presents itself as a marketable vehicle ?
Insights like these are probably why you limit your comments to 1+/- a year.

Read the thread for multiple answers to your spec question; a Leaf isn't quick (7-8 seconds 0-60) but yeah, quicker to 60 than your average economy car by a couple seconds, so it's not hard to walk away from the herd if you have any interest in doing so.
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Some people fail to realize that the STI is so iconic that a chunk of its sales come from enthusiasts who've always wanted an STI. If I'd NEVER owned an STI, the current model would be the one to get.

Unfortunately this forum has a lot of old-timers, many of whom have already been there and done that, myself included.

It'll be interesting to see what happens if somehow the next gen is actually all-new and has two variants. I still attest that the WRX should have two variants while the STI should be a lightweight coupe. I think the world is ready.
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Wow chano, I could have typed that post like 5 years ago. Spot on.
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Insights like these are probably why you limit your comments to 1+/- a year.

Read the thread for multiple answers to your spec question; a Leaf isn't quick (7-8 seconds 0-60) but yeah, quicker to 60 than your average economy car by a couple seconds, so it's not hard to walk away from the herd if you have any interest in doing so.
Letís say they update it for 2021.
Starting base price 37k- 38k.
2.4 - 2.5l w/ direct injection. 350HP, combined 20mpg, 6 speed manual,
0-60 4.8 secs when launched from 5k rpms.
Those specs have to be sufficient to carry the car for the following 5-7 years at least. I donít see it.
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Old 08-08-2019, 12:28 PM   #100
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Let’s say they update it for 2021.
Starting base price 37k- 38k.
2.4 - 2.5l w/ direct injection. 350HP, combined 20mpg, 6 speed manual,
0-60 4.8 secs when launched from 5k rpms.
Those specs have to be sufficient to carry the car for the following 5-7 years at least. I don’t see it.
What else do you imagine will compete against that? What better deal will there be than that (pretty solid, as described by you) STI? Or do you think there won't be any people left that care about such a car?

And with a 350hp DIT I'm gonna say it'll beat 4.8 to 60
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