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Old 11-26-2021, 12:06 AM   #3526
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I guess with that body kit it also makes it look less econobox. Def stands out nicely in red.

Edit: I also wonder how many of those S4 interesting features will make it to the US models? The fully digital gauge cluster, that facial recognition scanning, and that little collision warning system that reflects off the windshield.
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The Outback and Legacy XT have fully digital gauge cluster? I don’t think so man…also they have that collision thing that illuminates on the windshield?? I think that’s new to the WRX?



The WRX HTCVT was the first Subaru to feature the EAM. EyeSight Assist Monitor....Heads Up Display.



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Old 11-26-2021, 03:41 AM   #3527
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Anybody notice how gorgeous the wheels on that red Japanese spec car is? It took me a little bit to realize it. Look like volks or Ray’s that cost 3K + a set.

Unfortunately the car is so ugly that the plastic cladding actually hides the wheel design because you try to figure out what the hell kind of shape the car is. Terrible

Anyone think Subaru looks back at the 04-07 cars at all before new ones come out? I mean this things a hood scoop delete away from being a impreza outback
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Old 11-26-2021, 03:43 AM   #3528
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Also, in about 10 years we are going to look back at the current ev movement and laugh. People acting like it’s the end of the line for gasoline cars. Synthetic fuel is cleaner and more efficient than hybrids or EVs and should work with modern and old gasoline cars. Porsche is working on it. They just need to make it cost effective and the electric vehicles will once again be a niche for the children of Woodstock attendees
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Old 11-26-2021, 04:00 AM   #3529
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Also, in about 10 years we are going to look back at the current ev movement and laugh. People acting like it’s the end of the line for gasoline cars.
It's people that think enthusiasts' cars are at an end because of EVs that we are laughing at (and will be for a long time).
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Old 11-26-2021, 09:21 AM   #3530
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Old 11-26-2021, 09:37 AM   #3531
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Marketing is trying pretty hard***8230; "WRX S4 STI Sport R". What are they going to call the STI then?
"STI Sport" is a sporty trim level, like "M Sport" or "S-Line." It is not an STI, or even necessarily tuned by STI. It is most likely just using superficial STI division parts, ex. the side skirts, etc.

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The STI will just be "STI".

What's odd is that they're not using "tS", "tuned by STI". That's supposed to be for everything that gets the STI treatment, without being an actual STI.
tS would mean it was tuned by STI. This is just bolted on exterior and interior parts most likely. All show, no go. tS would be a car upgrade by the STI division itself, not just side skirts and rims from the "STI" store. The BRZ tS was co-developed w/ STI division's engineers.
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Old 11-26-2021, 09:51 AM   #3532
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Apparently you didn't notice the chassis bracing? I know what tS stands for as I've been following it since Day 1. Where do you think the STI aero is developed? If you go on STI's website they casually explain their process and reasoning for parts they develop. Any STI bits come from STI and the point of tS was meant to showcase their development without engine tuning as they felt the car could be made better with just aero, suspension and chassis bracing. Lots of track testing even for the Forester and Legacy tS models.

Obviously things can change, but I thought they were trying not to water down the STI brand by just slapping an STI badge on everything, and so tS made a lot of sense. The WRX S4 in particular has been getting the STI nomenclature since the maybe last year? And the Levorg too, IIRC. So it seems they're no longer concerned with the tS branding.

And I only follow the tS and STI branding because of 1) wanting a new STI and 2) wanting a new BRZ tS. This kind of makes me feel like we won't get a BRZ tS though. Just a BRZ that's sold with STI parts installed at the port/dealership and such.
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Old 11-26-2021, 10:39 AM   #3533
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Apparently you didn't notice the chassis bracing? I know what tS stands for as I've been following it since Day 1. Where do you think the STI aero is developed? If you go on STI's website they casually explain their process and reasoning for parts they develop. Any STI bits come from STI and the point of tS was meant to showcase their development without engine tuning as they felt the car could be made better with just aero, suspension and chassis bracing. Lots of track testing even for the Forester and Legacy tS models.

Obviously things can change, but I thought they were trying not to water down the STI brand by just slapping an STI badge on everything, and so tS made a lot of sense. The WRX S4 in particular has been getting the STI nomenclature since the maybe last year? And the Levorg too, IIRC. So it seems they're no longer concerned with the tS branding.

And I only follow the tS and STI branding because of 1) wanting a new STI and 2) wanting a new BRZ tS. This kind of makes me feel like we won't get a BRZ tS though. Just a BRZ that's sold with STI parts installed at the port/dealership and such.
BRZ tS was jointly developed and limited in production. Is this one? To me it looks like an up-charged trim line like S-Line. Either way, it is not a STI as you and I agree. Perhaps they just scrapped "tS."
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Old 11-26-2021, 10:42 AM   #3534
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The STI will just be "STI".

What's odd is that they're not using "tS", "tuned by STI". That's supposed to be for everything that gets the STI treatment, without being an actual STI.
Maybe we'll get lucky and see an "WRX STI R". Or better yet a "WRX STI S210 RA-R NE [Nürburgring Edition]".

WRX tS would have sufficed.. but that doesn't sound as fast, sporty and race car as " WRX STI Sport R" to help compensate for the appearance.

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"STI Sport" is a sporty trim level, like "M Sport" or "S-Line." It is not an STI, or even necessarily tuned by STI. It is most likely just using superficial STI division parts, ex. the side skirts, etc.
I know, it's a marketing trick to make you feel like you're getting the real deal or something truly special. But really, STI Sport wasn't enough? They had to make it a WRX STI Sport R..

That's like if VW decided to make a Golf GTI Clubsport R.. or a BMW M340i Sport R or M340i CS-R.. Or a Honda Civic Sport SI-R.

To a non car enthusiast, a WRX STI Sport R certainly has to be better/faster than just a plain WRX STI.

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Old 11-26-2021, 11:00 AM   #3535
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Synthetic fuel is cleaner and more efficient than hybrids or EVs and should work with modern and old gasoline cars.
That's a bold statement. As much as I love my gasoline piston engines, and am in no hurry to buy any of the current EV offerings... the simple fact of the matter is that the maximum peak theoretical thermal efficiency of gasoline piston engines is around 55%. Real world peak is below 40%. Although synthetic fuel has the potential to reduce detonation and therefore increase compression ratios, it's not like that is all of a sudden going to raise the thermal efficiency to 70%.

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Old 11-26-2021, 11:09 AM   #3536
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It's people that think enthusiasts' cars are at an end because of EVs that we are laughing at (and will be for a long time).
I suppose it depends what your particular definition of enthusiats's cars are. For me it is small, lightweight, and nimble... which current EVs have a wee bit of trouble with. Once we can deal with battery weight, then that might change. So maybe not dead, but perhaps on hiatus.

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Old 11-26-2021, 01:47 PM   #3537
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Welcome WRX "VB" Chassis: JDM Goodies!!

https://www.sti.jp/parts/wrxs4_vb/


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Old 11-26-2021, 02:16 PM   #3538
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God even the accessories are terrible...

Red lip/sideskirts? Bleh
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:17 PM   #3539
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:24 PM   #3540
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God even the accessories are terrible...

Red lip/sideskirts? Bleh
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:31 PM   #3541
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Welcome WRX "VB" Chassis: JDM Goodies!!

https://www.sti.jp/parts/wrxs4_vb/

Whoa , that's awesome.
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Old 11-26-2021, 02:44 PM   #3542
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A Supra is on your radar and you were holding out for ANYTHING that Subaru had to offer…? That’s an interesting cross shop.


ALWAYS open to anything when looking for a fun car. Have had several STi's so they are always on the list! It's not my only car (have a 95 Miata and a 2020 Mazda 3, plus my wife's cars) so it's nice that I can cast a wide net.

PS: The Supra is great.

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Old 11-26-2021, 03:09 PM   #3543
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WATCH: Cody Crocker wind up the 2022 Subaru WRX
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Plus Aussie fans have a chance to win a free six-month loan of the all-new 2022 WRX

The hype train is building up steam as the 2022 Subaru WRX edges closer to its Australian launch, with Subaru this week releasing a video of rally legend Cody Crocker punting the all-new WRX Sportswagon around an unnamed proving ground.

In the video, Crocker reiterates some of the new model’s key specifications and features before giving his take on what that feels like as a driver.
“The car’s balanced, it rotates really well,” he said. “This is the sort of car that you go hunting for corners in.”

The video is being used by Subaru to announce and promote a new competition that will gift one lucky Rex fan a six-month stint behind the wheel of the new 2022 Subaru WRX, something the brand has labelled “the ultimate test drive in the ultimate performance machine”.

All you need to do is tell Subaru Australia in 25 words or less where you’d like to drive the all-new WRX.

Coincidently, the competition’s opening and the Crocker video release fell on the same day as the debut of the JDM-spec Subaru WRX ‘S4’ and Subaru Levorg STI Sport R.

The biggest news to come out of the Japanese reveals is the omission of a manual transmission; all four WRX S4 variants and both of the Levorg STI Sport R models are fitted exclusively with the latest ‘Subaru performance transmission’.

All are powered by the new 2.4-litre turbocharged four-cylinder boxer engine.
This is not a surprise for the Levorg given the STI Sport R is the same basic package as the Aussie-bound WRX Sportswagon, but the lack of a manual in the sedan was not anticipated, especially given other markets – including Australia – will be getting a six-speed DIY set-up as standard.
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Old 11-26-2021, 03:30 PM   #3544
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WATCH: Cody Crocker wind up the 2022 Subaru WRX


https://youtu.be/nfpSfjzDkU4
“…now it’s your turn…”,
unless of course you’re in the world’s biggest Subaru market, in which case, let us thank you for that with a big fat FU!

When SOA offers a full blown WRX/Levorg (or whatever they want to call it) STI, I’ll get another Subaru. Until then, well SOA, see how the last paragraph ended.
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Old 11-26-2021, 03:53 PM   #3545
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Lipstick on a pig?









Oh my. These were just the right finishing touches to round out the whole package.
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"***8230;now it's your turn***8230;",
unless of course you're in the world's biggest Subaru market, in which case, let us thank you for that with a big fat FU!

When SOA offers a full blown WRX/Levorg (or whatever they want to call it) STI, I'll get another Subaru. Until then, well SOA, see how the last paragraph ended.
What is funny is it looks better than the Crosstek WRX we are getting, by a country mile.

What consumers should do, is demand it. Call, email, go in person, to your local stealer, show them the video. Then do the same at SOA. And refuse the Crosstek version we are getting. If people would raise hell, and demand it, they'd get it.

Instead, the shills will just do their typical herd thing. This is why you don't get change, and why you don't get what you want.
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Lipstick on a pig?









“Lipstick on a pig”
Spot on. Good call.
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Old 11-26-2021, 05:32 PM   #3548
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great, more plastic you can add on.
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Old 11-26-2021, 06:40 PM   #3549
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So can we expect that this is basically what the STI is going to look like minus some things here and there and the big wang?
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Old 11-26-2021, 07:04 PM   #3550
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So can we expect that this is basically what the STI is going to look like minus some things here and there and the big wang?
One would think so.
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