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Old 09-08-2016, 03:30 AM   #101
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I'm guessing the rear tails are just slapped on there and the camo is hiding curved LED's on those awkward-looking flares. That'd be in line with the FT1 concept.

Also betting the headlights are just stuck on there, they look way too bland for what's supposed to be a halo sports car. But then again, Toyota IS the king of bland...

Side profile of the front bumper reminds me of the older 911's with the fried egg lights.
I think you're right about the tails, that would fit with the new Prius's flared tails too. I don't think the headlights are necessarily stuck on, the camo's just shrouding the stylized edges.

Told you guys it was happening lol.
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2019 Toyota Supra: Tangible Evidence of a Reborn Legend


What It Is: The reborn Toyota Supra, which is the product of a joint venture between Toyota and BMW that also will produce a successor to the Z4.

Why It Matters: It’s hard to remember now, but Toyota wasn’t always a purveyor exclusively of reliable, soulless transportation devices. Although the company today is defined by the appliance-like Camry and the ultra-green Prius, back in the 1970s and ’80s, someone asked to name a Toyota model might very well say, “Celica,” which was sort of a Japanese Ford Mustang. That popular, sporty car reached its zenith as the Celica Supra, before the Supra was later spun off as a separate, high-performance coupe that lasted through 1998 (2002 in Japan). Adding emotional appeal back into the Toyota lineup is a stated goal of Toyota global president and CEO Akio Toyoda, and there’s only so much that can be done with sport-themed trim levels for the Camry and Corolla. To give any credence to the CEO’s goal, Toyota needs a sports car.

Platform: The reality of small sales volumes and not-so-small engineering costs make for tough economics in developing a new sports coupe. That’s why we’ve seen joint ventures pop up: Toyota and Subaru teamed up for the Scion FR-S (now Toyota 86) and Subaru BRZ, while Mazda spun off a variant of its Miata for Fiat Chrysler to sell as the Fiat 124 Spider. Similarly, we have Toyota pairing up here with BMW. Toyota will get a new Supra out of the deal, while BMW’s version will replace the Z4, with the new model to take the name Z5. The uptick in BMW nomenclature is indicative of the fact that the Supra/Z5 will be larger than today’s Z4. We believe the car captured in these photos is indeed the Toyota—despite the BMW switchgear—largely because of its proportions and front styling that appears to carry a whiff of the dramatic Toyota FT-1 concept that serves as inspiration for this car.

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Powertrain: Both four- and six-cylinder engines are expected, although they won’t be shared. The Supra will use a Toyota four-cylinder in the most affordable variants, while higher-zoot versions will get a new V-6 (code name 943F) bolstered by a pair of turbos that will push output to 400 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque. A performance-themed hybrid setup—which would be shared—also is a possibility. More sharing would take place in the transmissions, suspension, and other chassis components. In these spy pictures, we even see a BMW steering wheel, column stalks, and gauges. Although the final cars may share these cabin parts, they could simply be stand-ins being used during development.

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Competition: Audi TT, BMW Z5, Chevrolet Camaro, Chevrolet Corvette Stingray, Ford Mustang, Porsche 718 Cayman. Basically all relatively affordable performance sports coupes.

Estimated Arrival and Price: Reports indicate that the cars will be assembled on what could be considered the neutral ground of Austria, by Magna Steyr. Production—at an annual rate of 60,000 cars in total—is due to begin sometime in 2018, and we expect the cars to arrive as 2019 models. It’s likely that Toyota will want to keep the starting price of the Supra near the $40,000 mark—which is considerably less than what the old model cost toward the end of its life span—although high-performance variants would drift far upward from there.

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Old 09-21-2016, 08:00 AM   #103
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Sounds like a hybrid.

Damnit Toyota.
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Old 09-21-2016, 02:58 PM   #105
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Sounds like a hybrid.

Damnit Toyota.
Nothing wrong with a hybrid. Just because it's a hybrid doesn't mean it's going to drive like a Camry.

I would love a hybrid that uses the electrical power for off the line power and low end torque. It would be great around town, too. Then maybe this way we can have a N/A powerplant screaming at high revs
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Old 09-21-2016, 03:06 PM   #106
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Sounds like a hybrid.

Damnit Toyota.
So a middle class LaFerrari/918/P1 etc...
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Old 09-21-2016, 03:10 PM   #107
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So a middle class LaFerrari/918/P1 etc...
Hnnnggh when you put it like that... yes please.
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Old 09-21-2016, 06:42 PM   #108
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Nothing wrong with a hybrid. Just because it's a hybrid doesn't mean it's going to drive like a Camry.

I would love a hybrid that uses the electrical power for off the line power and low end torque. It would be great around town, too. Then maybe this way we can have a N/A powerplant screaming at high revs
That's what the NSX and some of the latest hypercars (918, LaFerrari, P1) do too, use electric motors for torque-fill in the lower parts of the powerband and while the turbos are building or off boost. I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota does it in the top end spec Supra.
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Betting this is going to be corvette money which for me means I'd take the Corvette. Still glad they are bringing it back.

On an unrelated note, I just saw a new Q60 on the road yesterday and it looked very nice in person.
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That's what the NSX and some of the latest hypercars (918, LaFerrari, P1) do too, use electric motors for torque-fill in the lower parts of the powerband and while the turbos are building or off boost. I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota does it in the top end spec Supra.
Is there any reason from an emissions standpoint that they'd have to still do turbos if they build in a hybrid system? I want to say the hybrid system will fill the gaps in the low end and for city driving like you said, which IIRC is what most of the EPA cycle is about.

Then when you want to hoon you've got massive bottom end and a N/A top end screamer
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Old 09-22-2016, 09:28 PM   #111
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Is there any reason from an emissions standpoint that they'd have to still do turbos if they build in a hybrid system? I want to say the hybrid system will fill the gaps in the low end and for city driving like you said, which IIRC is what most of the EPA cycle is about.

Then when you want to hoon you've got massive bottom end and a N/A top end screamer
Well obviously those hypercars all need the extra power. If you just mean the Supra, sure I'd imagine they could do an NA V6 with hybrid torque fill. It depends though, the main things we don't know about this car is powertrains and at what segment is it really targeted? I was originally assuming, like the Toyobaru, they'd just adopt the donor cars powertrain, in this case (probably turbo) I6's from BMW, which would be fitting with the Supra's I6 heritage. The latest round of rumors from the rags indicate Toyota developed powertrains, and it would make sense for them to push a hybrid in that case. At this point, I think it's honestly to early to tell; I don't put much stock in modern automotive rag rumors since they are mostly speculation unless they have directly quoted sources, or educated guesses based on actually in person catching mules performance testing.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:12 PM   #112
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Jalopnik posted a first look render of what the car will look like based on their deconstruction of the mule spy shots.



They did this before with the C7 Corvette and they pretty much nailed what it looked like, so it's fair to say this is really close to what we are getting.
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Old 10-05-2016, 01:43 PM   #113
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I don't hate it, I don't like it either, but at least I don't hate it.
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I sure hope the front end doesn't look like that, woof.
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Looks dated already, but it's probably close. The actual design will probably be an improvement of that.
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I like that rendering--understated, but sporty.

BRZish, but with balls.
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I like it, apart from the wheels.

This was their C7 render which was very close to the production design:

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I like it, apart from the wheels.

This was their C7 render which was very close to the production design:

Yeah in the article they actually state the wheels and headlights are just guesses, so I wouldn't put any stock in the wack wheels. I do kinda hope the front fascia is a bit more rounded/scalloped in the actual car, the edges in the render are a bit too sharp. Not bad looking though.
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The front end has a very F1 look to it, I like that.
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Why does it look like the nose is pointed straight up in da air???
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Toyota sure plays a good game of meh'. That thing looks heavy, it handles like it's trying to hide weight.
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looks boring, sounds boring

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It's unfair to judge the car when it's being driven like a Camry. But if that really is Toyota's benchmark for "enthusiastic/sporting driving" - god help them with this one.
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2019 Toyota Supra MSRP, Specs

The Supra is one of the most iconic names in the car industry. Even though the car became widely known thanks to its fourth generation, even before that it was one of the highly regarded tuner cars. Unfortunately, though Toyota scrapped the project back in 2002 and people thought that the Supra was going to be gone forever. The good part comes next. Back in 2007 Toyota released the FT-HS concept which was going to be a successor for the Supra. Nearly ten years later we are finally close to the fifth generation of the Supra. 2019 Toyota Supra is coming, but it won’t be too similar to the previous installment, and it won’t be entirely a Toyota. There are some fundamental differences between it and its predecessor.


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2019 Toyota Supra – In detail

For starters, the upcoming 2019 Toyota Supra is not going to use a Toyota-developed platform. Instead, the car will be based on BMW’s rear wheel drive architecture which will also underpin the future Z5. This has been rumored ever since 2013, and it has been confirmed only recently after a Supra test mule has been seen at BMW’s testing facility at the Nurburgring. There is some really good news about this platform. For starters, it will be significantly lighter than the one before it thanks to the extensive use of aluminum and likely carbon fiber. There is still no word on the weight, but some suggested under 3,000 pounds which might just be true. The car is expected to be released by the end of 2018, and it should hit the market roughly at the same time as well. Its price will be over $50,000. This is a lot more than what the early rumors said. In this price bracket Toyota will have to compete with the Boxster, BMW’s Z5 as well as with European and American-made sports cars.


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The design of 2019 Toyota Supra

There is still nothing official about the 2019 Toyota Supra. The early concepts such as the FT-HS or the FT-1 might give us a glimpse of the car’s appearance. The unfortunate part is that Toyota did say a while ago that they will not pursue the look of the highly aggressive FT-1. This is a shame because the concept is likely one of the best looking two-door sports cars ever made. Instead, the production model seems to be toned down quite a bit over the FT-1. It is also taller; it has shorter overhangs and the front looks to be a lot more similar to the FT-HS than anything else.

While the end design might not be as good as we hoped, we are sure that Toyota will give the new Supra a unique identity which will make it stand out from a crowd. It also seems that the coupe is not going to be the only version. A T-Top model is more than likely at this point while a convertible with a soft top might be in the works as well. Its cabin will more than likely borrow some cues from the BMW to keep the costs down, but this is not a bad thing.

Under the hood

At first, there have been quite a few rumors about the 2019 Toyota Supra going for an inline six engine borrowed from BMW. This is not entirely true, though. Instead, it seems that the new Supra will receive a Lexus developed V6 with the 943F code. This is a twin-turbocharged unit capable of pushing out around 400 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque. This is less than what the first rumors suggested but more than enough to make the Supra fast enough to pose a problem for its rivals. We are quite sure that with this engine, a six-speed manual or an automatic of some sort are going to be offered. The car will more than likely be rear wheel drive only.

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