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Old 12-23-2011, 10:11 PM   #1
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Subaru Stars 22b sti conversion questions

so yesterday i found a mint condition AWD 1995 subaru impreza coupe

1 owner car bought 16 years ago and used as a commuter buy a 60 year old man.. miles 138k
yesterday he payed cash for a 2011 impreza and sold me his 95 impreza for 2400$ with a 9/10 exterior, 10/10 interior and perfect motor and tranny with all the maintenance records and even the original brochure...

now i wana do the 22b conversion....

is the STI spoiler from the 02-07 the same as the 22B spoiler?

and i found a totaled 2010 2.5rs with 80k miles with a running motor and good trans that i can get for 500$ should i do the 2.5 swap and turbo it or would it be better to just get a sti complete and get it dom tuned?
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:20 PM   #2
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You have absolutely no idea what you're doing. You should do a hell of a lot more research before slapping on a couple 22B badges and calling it a day.

For starters:
No, the GC STI wing is NOT the same as the GD STI wing.
No, do not swap a turbocharged 2.5RS engine into your Impreza.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:30 PM   #3
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your right lol i dont thats why i am asking looking at the wings they look the same.. and i wasnt gonna slap any badges on it ..

as far as the motor goes i thought the 2.5rs motor was a good deal and a hell of a step up from the 1.8 thats in this car but im obviously not gonna boost and tune the 1.8 so the 2.5 would be a good starting point ..
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:45 PM   #4
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as far as the motor goes i thought the 2.5rs motor was a good deal and a hell of a step up from the 1.8 thats in this car but im obviously not gonna boost and tune the 1.8 so the 2.5 would be a good starting point ..
No. It wouldn't. Stop.

A proper 22b conversion is going to set you back about ten grand.

Keep that in mind.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:54 PM   #5
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Lol yeah... the 2004 STi wing fits on a GC. The rest of these guy's are crazy.
















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Old 12-24-2011, 12:01 AM   #6
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No. It wouldn't. Stop.

A proper 22b conversion is going to set you back about ten grand.

Keep that in mind.
True that. ^^

22B replica wings can be found if you do some googling. They look most similar to a ver 6 STI wing. If you plan on going to the trouble of doing a motor swap, I would suggest an EJ20G out of a JDM WRX. These can be had shipped with transmission for less than $2000. I'm not sure if your car's transmission would be compatible, if it were you could figure less than $1500. There is a list somewhere on this forum indicating compatibility. You could also look at headlights, grill and hood from a 2.5RS if you wanted to spruce up the impreza.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:09 AM   #7
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i think to just swap the engine in is not that difficult, but to make it a true 22b youd need the full swap including suspension, breaks, drivetrain, and interior. Itll take lots of time and money. And you also need the blue paint job!!
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:15 AM   #8
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You forgot the biggest thing: the widebody. That alone would set you back a good chunk of that $10,000 that Xan was guesstimating. Hell, I'd venture to guess that MOST of the 10 grand would go towards the widebody. That is, unless you have a hook up at a shop.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:16 AM   #9
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A 22b conversion is just that a conversion. Not the real thing. What's the point.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:24 AM   #10
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A 22b conversion is just that a conversion. Not the real thing. What's the point.
Cuz a properly done 22b wide body on a gc8 is sexy as hell! You will never get a real 22b over here.
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Old 12-24-2011, 01:08 AM   #11
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I personally do not like widebodies. Flairs? That's a different story...



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Old 12-24-2011, 02:48 AM   #12
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ok so the gen 6 sti wing will fit? and ok .. forget it lol im just wanting to do a little more hp with an aggressive look such as the 22B...
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Old 12-24-2011, 04:13 AM   #13
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ok so the gen 6 sti wing will fit? and ok .. forget it lol im just wanting to do a little more hp with an aggressive look such as the 22B...
Gen 6? Man, we're on Gen 3 right now.
Start reading. Figure out what you really want. Specifically. And go from there.
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Old 12-24-2011, 10:41 AM   #14
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Coming from someone who's been there done that, I definitely wont do a 22b wide body kit anytime again soon. It does cost a lot in body work and on top of that it's a pain in the ars. Even though it's really pretty, and I went with the WRC kit which is a bit wider than the normal 22B kit.



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Old 12-24-2011, 11:22 AM   #15
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True that. ^^

22B replica wings can be found if you do some googling. They look most similar to a ver 6 STI wing. If you plan on going to the trouble of doing a motor swap, I would suggest an EJ20G out of a JDM WRX. These can be had shipped with transmission for less than $2000. I'm not sure if your car's transmission would be compatible, if it were you could figure less than $1500. There is a list somewhere on this forum indicating compatibility. You could also look at headlights, grill and hood from a 2.5RS if you wanted to spruce up the impreza.
Just curious, where are you finding these trans/motor ej20g combos for ~2k? wtb wtb

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Old 02-10-2012, 12:43 PM   #16
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The wikipedia article on the wrx states that the 22b's engine is a closed deck ej20g block with ej20k heads & valvetrain from a v4 jdm sti and an ihi vf23 turbo. All that together drops the redline from 8000rpm to 7000rpm with the same hp. Im sure someone in the built motor thread has put something like this together. Its like anything: you can do it high quality, quickly, or cheaply but you can only ever do 2 of the 3 together.

For the money you have put into it so far you would probably be happiest with a straight ej20k motorswap w/ tranny and some fender flares. Dont be throwing around the 22b in you posts though. People get their panties in a twist when you do that.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:09 PM   #17
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Wikipedia is wrong.
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Old 02-10-2012, 07:11 PM   #18
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Wikipedia is wrong.
Usually. But that wasnt the point. Unless the front clip, including wiring harness and ecu from an actual 22b figuratively fell into the OP's lap its just not possible to do a propper lhd 22b clone. You can waste alot of money trying. Someone said $10k. That sound right if the only work your not doing yourself is bodywork. Iirc the actual 22b came out in 98. Means next year they can be imported into canada legally and probably cheaper then building a custom clone. Certainly not a satisfying learning experience like doing your own build though.
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Old 02-10-2012, 08:57 PM   #19
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This thread is full of

With the widebody, motor, trans, all the other parts associated with the swap...you're looking at a minimum of something like 12K, I'd venture to say you could knock that up to 20K if you wanted to do everything perfectly...most likely if you followed through you'd end up with a bill for about 15K.

...just get a GC8 and throw an STi engine in...about 1/3 the cost.
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Old 02-10-2012, 09:49 PM   #20
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I'd love a clean Impreza like the one you described to perform a swap on. However, you need to do some serious home work so you have an idea of what you are getting yourself into because it is no small feat. I personally know I don't have the time, money, space or skill to get into something this involved at this point in my life...and when you don't have all of those things the money part can increase exponentially. There is plenty of information on the forum to give you an idea of where you are headed though.

I wouldn't worry about all the wide body stuff...work with what is there now, a cared for car waiting to be improved upon...investing your money in a drivetrain swap would easy put a smile on your face. A WRX or STi drivetrain probably wouldn't matter in terms of building a nice quick car, it just depends on how deep your pockets are and what you want to get out of it. Swapping a 2.5RS drivetrain would just leave you begging for more later. Based on my limited knowledge of forced induction with those motors, it seems to be a waste of time when you have factory ready turbo engines at your disposal already prepared to handle boost.

I'd personally love a swapped 1st generation Impreza sedan or coupe with the appearance package of a 2.5RS, some nice wheels and maybe the addition of some other OEM exterior components. If I ever have the opportunity to build one that's the direction I'd take it. If you don't do some research expect more responses like some of the ones you've already received. You won't receive any real help for the most part, just witty comments from people who are much too intelligent to type anything meaningful.

RS stuff but gives you an idea:
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f128/t828...add-notes.html
Better yet just go here period:
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f128-swaps-conversions
Similar to what you're trying to achieve:
http://www.rs25.com/forums/f145/t156...ed-dragon.html

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From my understanding the 22B had an adjustable spoiler. Wich on average retail at $600. I have a 1998 SUbaru RS two door coupe, 5 speed and was pondering a conversion towards a 22B look. The spoiler I am looking at is here....http://www.visracing.com/newcatalog/...e-Spoiler.html
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