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Old 12-05-2018, 11:23 AM   #1
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News Volkswagen says last generation of combustion engines to be launched in 2026

Volkswagen will develop its final generation of vehicles using combustion engine technology in 2026, the company's strategy chief said on Tuesday.

VW made a strategy shift toward battery-driven vehicles in the wake of a damaging diesel-emissions cheating scandal in 2015, which forced the carmaker to pay billions of dollars in fines for hiding excessive pollution.

"In the year 2026 will be the last product start on a combustion engine platform," Michael Jost told the Handelsblatt automotive summit conference at Volkswagen's headquarters in Wolfsburg, Germany.

A spokesman confirmed Jost's remarks meant that VW, Europe and China's best selling passenger car brand, will focus on electric cars instead.

VW will continue to adapt its petrol and diesel engined cars to meet environmental standards during the lifetime of those vehicles, but the German carmaker is now committed to radical steps to stop global warming, Jost said.

As a way to meet the goals of the Paris climate accord, Volkswagen has changed its car development benchmarks to include the target of radically cutting levels of carbon dioxide pollution in production as well, Jost said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/aut...d-2026-n943991
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:18 PM   #2
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This is PR. I think they may try to push all EV but the infrastructure is not ready for this by 2026
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Old 12-05-2018, 12:55 PM   #3
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Curious how many manufacturers have an electric future planned while few drivers want or will pay extra for them. I think they have been told from over their heads you WILL make these cars and we Will make them buy only those. It's not a natural progression at work. Electric infrastructure will need to be rebuilt and cost passed along to customers.
Germany pays .40 per KWhr while USA .10-.12 so at same usage they would be over $500. mo electric bill. Truth is few can afford this today especially Gen X-Y Or are you willing to pay 4-5 x more for cleaner electric ?
and wen the total clean cars only populate the cities and that winter smog rolls in people will look up and find the culprit was Chimneys of heating systems that had zero abatement all along. They burn oil. low grade oil, wood, coal, charcoal, and turf or peat moss in EU or anything they can use to heat their homes or industry. Zeor catalyst, no regulations at all

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Old 12-05-2018, 01:47 PM   #4
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This is PR. I think they may try to push all EV but the infrastructure is not ready for this by 2026
How I read it is VW's last new ICE engines will debut in 2026. Those new engines could last 10-20 years or more depending on how you interpret or the industry interprets "new". In theory, they can continue to update those last engines pushing them further out.
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Old 12-05-2018, 01:58 PM   #5
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How I read it is VW's last new ICE engines will debut in 2026. Those new engines could last 10-20 years or more depending on how you interpret or the industry interprets "new". In theory, they can continue to update those last engines pushing them further out.
STI engine debuted 10 years ago... should be good until 2036 haha
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Old 12-05-2018, 02:26 PM   #6
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How I read it is VW's last new ICE engines will debut in 2026. Those new engines could last 10-20 years or more depending on how you interpret or the industry interprets "new". In theory, they can continue to update those last engines pushing them further out.
That’s how I read it too.
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Old 12-05-2018, 02:55 PM   #7
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How I read it is VW's last new ICE engines will debut in 2026. Those new engines could last 10-20 years or more depending on how you interpret or the industry interprets "new". In theory, they can continue to update those last engines pushing them further out.
That's how I read it also. I'm assuming the last series of ICE engines will be hybrid of all things. Unless of course VW means ICE only without hybrid tech.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:30 PM   #8
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This is VW, they'll sell you an electric car, but you'll find a gas engine under the hood.
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Old 12-05-2018, 03:51 PM   #9
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the EJ series launched in 1989, a variation of it is still in production Subaru's
the Windsor series ran from 1961 - 2000 (ford small block V8)
the Gen-1 Chevy small block V8 launched in 1955, a variation of it is still used today (LS/LT)

It's just marketing, fluff, etc.
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Old 12-05-2018, 05:36 PM   #10
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This is VW, they'll sell you an electric car, but you'll find a gas engine under the hood.
The only way to get Scrap et al into electric cars.
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Old 12-05-2018, 06:52 PM   #11
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This is pure marketing.

But give me an electric equivalent to my Golf R (power, range, size, hatchback), and I'd likely go for it.
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Old 12-05-2018, 07:15 PM   #12
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In other news GM killed the Volt and gas prices continued use to fall....
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^fake news. GM announced they are doubling their investment in EV.

“GM now intends to prioritize future vehicle investments in its next-generation battery-electric architectures."
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:09 PM   #14
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In other news GM killed the Volt and gas prices continued use to fall....
You do understand that the Volt was a pretty ****ty car that had dick range on electricity before going to fuel, right? Killing it was smart, it wasn't selling or making any money.

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^fake news. GM announced they are doubling their investment in EV.

“GM now intends to prioritize future vehicle investments in its next-generation battery-electric architectures."
^^^^ This. Ford made the move first by killing off all their cars that do not sell well in the US and abroad in addition to netting dick **** for profit. With the money save by producing those cars, r&d costs, marketing costs, etc. they are now able to pour all that money into EV and hybrid tech. Companies work within a budget and without killing those cars, it would have been damn hard and painfully slow to pour resources into the next generation of hybrid and EV cars.
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Old 12-05-2018, 10:37 PM   #15
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They still have 8 years to work on a new project, I guess what we can do now is just wait.
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Old 12-06-2018, 01:12 AM   #16
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Combustion engine platform or combustion engine. Two very different things.
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Old 12-06-2018, 11:28 AM   #17
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STI engine debuted 10 years ago... should be good until 2036 haha
You think the EJ25 debuted in 2008?
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I was gonna say, 1989 (first Legacy with an EJ engine rolled out of the factory) was only 10 years ago?
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You think the EJ25 debuted in 2008?
Cut him some slack. He's a must have "hood scoop" guy
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So am I but y’all can ride me tight and close if it makes a difference in your daily lives. Gotta keep morale up around here. Snorkel not needed.
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This is PR. I think they may try to push all EV but the infrastructure is not ready for this by 2026
it might be feasible.
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Old 12-06-2018, 03:43 PM   #22
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As long as the hurry the hell up with the Microbus. They have until Oct of 2019 to bring it out for me to get one.
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So am I but y’all can ride me tight and close if it makes a difference in your daily lives. Gotta keep morale up around here. Snorkel not needed.
FMIC is so much more efficient
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How I read it is VW's last new ICE engines will debut in 2026. Those new engines could last 10-20 years or more depending on how you interpret or the industry interprets "new". In theory, they can continue to update those last engines pushing them further out.
they specify vehicle, not engine.

in today's markets, a vehicle platform lasts 5-7 years, so by 2032 they are going to be all battery.

maybe.

but doubtful.
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Old 12-07-2018, 11:39 AM   #25
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Just as Toyota is the only manufacturer to have strong demand for "full" hybrids (meaning: Prius) in the 20 years of the Prius, it's likely that Tesla will be the only manufacturer to have strong demand for full EV's in the next 5-10 years.

VW is going to lose fistfuls of money on all these electric Golfs and electric Tiguans. 3 years from now why would I buy an electric Tiguan? All my neighbors will be confused why I didn't just get a Tesla Model Y.
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