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Old 11-08-2018, 05:10 PM   #1
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News 2019 Toyota Prius (probably has AWD)


A picture of a Prius in the snow offers a pretty strong hint about its alleged newfound capability.



Toyota has been offering its Prius hybrid with all-wheel drive in Japan for three years, but the US has been stuck with front-wheel drive exclusively. That appears to change for the 2019 model year.

Toyota announced Thursday that it will unveil the 2019 Toyota Prius at the 2018 Los Angeles Auto Show at the end of November. The accompanying press release says the 2019 Prius "performs on roads whether snowy or clear," and the teaser image shows a Prius leaving a cloud of snow in its wake.

So, what does that mean? In all likelihood, it means Toyota will finally bring an all-wheel-drive Prius to the US. The E-Four system it offers in Japan attaches an electric motor to the rear axle, which can be used or ignored based on the road conditions -- a smart idea, since it prioritizes efficiency unless safety demands otherwise. Car and Driver says the system isn't that heavy, and it doesn't eat into cargo space or fuel economy.

It's not clear -- literally, there's a bunch of snow in the teaser -- if Toyota will give the Prius a redesign alongside the AWD Prius' likely debut. Based on what I can see of the side, it has the same character lines that head rearward to its wildly styled tuchus, so even if Toyota does change a bit, I wouldn't expect the revisions to be too crazy. The roof rack on top of the car is a nice touch.

Adding all-wheel drive to the Prius' lineup would be a smart move. Buyers in parts of the country with actual seasons appreciate the peace of mind that comes with four driven wheels, even though front-wheel drive is plenty safe, especially in conjunction with proper winter tires. Sales of the Prius have begun to cool off in 2018, so this could also give Toyota's O.G. hybrid a sales boost ahead of a proper full-on redesign.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2...-la-auto-show/
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This is what I’ve been saying since forever.
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:17 PM   #3
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Bring in the full on EV version please!
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Old 11-08-2018, 11:33 PM   #4
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:37 PM   #5
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make it not look like it was designed with an etch a sketch used by an epileptic please.
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Old 11-16-2018, 02:11 PM   #6
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Look at this, CARB certification for Prius AWD! But also showing 1.8L engine so it's not the 100% EV



https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad...3-30_hevge.pdf

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Old 11-16-2018, 02:27 PM   #7
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make it not look like it was designed with an etch a sketch used by an epileptic please.
I always thought it was a 50's "winged" car re-imagined by somebody a little too into Gundam.
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Hopefully picking mine up in a few weeks.
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:41 AM   #9
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News Toyota Prius gets AWD-e version, refreshed looks for 2019 (52 city/48 hwy)







For the 2019 model year, the Toyota Prius is getting a few updates updated looks, a couple new paint colors, and a renaming and slight shuffling of the trim levels. Most important, though, Toyota has announced that the model will get an all-wheel-drive version called the Prius AWD-e, which the automaker expects could make up a quarter of U.S. Prius sales going forward.

The AWD-e system uses an electric motor to independently power the rear wheels, providing the car with better traction and stability without the need for anything resembling a center differential. It engages automatically from 0 to 6 miles per hour, then engages as needed at speeds up to 43 mph. The rest of the time, the unit disengages to save energy. As such, the Prius AWD-e is rated at 52 mpg city / 48 mpg highway / 50 mpg combined. (For comparison, the front-drive-only 2019 Prius is expected to get 58/53/56 mpg in L Eco trim, and 54/50/52 mpg across the rest of the range.)

The battery the all-wheel-drive Prius uses differs from the lithium-ion pack currently used by the rest of the lineup. Seeing as it's more likely to be bought across the Snow Belt, the AWD-e returns to a nickel-metal hydride chemistry offering improved cold-weather performance in its newly designed pack. The battery pack sits under the rear seat, but doesn't affect the car's 65.5 cubic feet max storage capacity.

Toyota is moving away from the numeric nomenclature for the various trim levels of the Prius, and adopting the labels L Eco, LE, XLE and Limited. The AWD-e will be available in LE and XLE trims.

The 2019 Prius gets some visual updates, as well. The big differences are up front where the lighting gets streamlined, and is more subtly integrated into the surrounding bodywork. The rear lighting is all new, ditching the wild angles for a more conservative shape, with a more rectangular element underscored by a swooping, horizontal brake light extending onto the trunk. While the overall look of the car changes little, those tweaks make it look much more approachable. Finally, Toyota is offering two new exterior colors for 2019: Supersonic Red and Electric Storm Blue.

The 2019 Prius and Prius AWD-e still use the familiar 1.8-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine, electric motors and continuously variable transmission. The car makes its debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show this week.
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well guess I won't get the chance to hang the rear end out in a Prius with that AWD system, oh well; also, Toyota refuses to let that 1.8l die.
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Now if only the crosstrek phev had a similar powertrain setup and fuel economy -- considering it borrowed tech from the prius anyway...
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well guess I won't get the chance to hang the rear end out in a Prius with that AWD system, oh well; also, Toyota refuses to let that 1.8l die.
Yea, very mild rear power. To be fair, though, it is probably enough for the typical Prius buyer. The 2ZR-FXE only dates back to the 2010 Prius, I believe. The basic 2ZR-FE was first introduced a few years earlier. I figure the ZR will die when this gen Prius ends. Pretty typical Toyota. Power train lasts 2 vehicle design cycles.

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Now if only the crosstrek phev had a similar powertrain setup and fuel economy -- considering it borrowed tech from the prius anyway...
The Crosstrek will have a much more capable AWD.
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Old 12-01-2018, 01:18 PM   #13
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Yea, very mild rear power. To be fair, though, it is probably enough for the typical Prius buyer. The 2ZR-FXE only dates back to the 2010 Prius, I believe. The basic 2ZR-FE was first introduced a few years earlier. I figure the ZR will die when this gen Prius ends. Pretty typical Toyota. Power train lasts 2 vehicle design cycles.

Just enough rear power to drive past the "AWD or Chains" signs on a powder day. This is a good thing for skiers.

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