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Old 01-20-2003, 03:41 PM   #1
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Default Interesting remark by our president

At a church service today the president said (I'm paraphrasing here because I don't remember his exact words), that the ideas of justice and equality come from the church.

Where did he get this idea?
Which church/religion?
When?
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:03 PM   #2
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Yes, our government is being hijacked by religious extremists.
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:12 PM   #3
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Where did he get this idea?
Which church/religion?
When?
It's the one that says gay people are evil....no, wait.... The one that says the Jews are evil. No, that's not it. Ummmm....the one that sponsored the Crusades and witch-burning? Nope. Oh yeah....how about the one with those laws where they throw stones at women who don't cover themselves up completely? Damn, still not it.

Just wait, it'll come to me.
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:12 PM   #4
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He's a born again Christian. Baptist? I think. They brainwashed him while he was drying out from the sauce and blow. Small job, wasn't much laundry...

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Old 01-20-2003, 04:19 PM   #5
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I thought all ideas of Justice and Equality came from Outraged?



















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Old 01-20-2003, 04:25 PM   #6
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Yeah this thread is like an invitation to outraged to post a rant about our "christian nation".
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:28 PM   #7
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They brainwashed him while he was drying out from the sauce and blow. Small job, wasn't much laundry...
Quote of the day.

I'm amazed this thing has gotten this far without turning into a flame war! All the religious people must have today off

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Old 01-20-2003, 04:30 PM   #8
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I think he's cutting and pasting his latest masterpiece from Rush's page and interspersing it whith his own incoherent and entirely unsubstanciated ramblings as we speak...
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:33 PM   #9
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that the ideas of justice and equality come from the church.

If I'm not mistaken, a lot of the "moral rule" things we have including law come from the Bible.

Thou shalt not kill and all that stuff had to come from somewhere.
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:37 PM   #10
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Our society was modeled on the Athenian model which predates christianity by a couple of thousand years. The founding fathers were big into the greek philosophers...
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:39 PM   #11
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Default Re: Interesting remark by our president

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At a church service today the president said (I'm paraphrasing here because I don't remember his exact words), that the ideas of justice and equality come from the church.

Where did he get this idea?
Which church/religion?
When?
Do you disagree? I'm not talking on the fine level, because everyone has their own ideas of justice and equality, but in the larger scheme of things, values are instilled by your religion to a degree. They are also instilled by your parents, and your upbringing.
Religion is as old as time. I find it hard to believe there is a doubt that the ultimate goal of religion is something other than to make people be _good_
hence the corelation. Maybe I'm half cocked.
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:41 PM   #12
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Yes, our government is being hijacked by religious extremists.
Not really, they've mostly hijacked the Republican party.
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:43 PM   #13
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Not really, they've mostly hijacked the Republican party.
Who control all 3 branches of the Federal Government
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:55 PM   #14
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m750,,you are correct essentially. Christianity is about the precepts of Christ and is not a way of negotiating correctness in the material realm. Pure true religion is to undo arrogance and anger and confusion.........and is in no way to perpetrate material domination.
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:15 PM   #15
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At a church service today the president said (I'm paraphrasing here because I don't remember his exact words), that the ideas of justice and equality come from the church.

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He's an idiot...Thats where he got it from
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:39 PM   #16
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It's a government holiday, so most of the right-wingers are home today, instead of wasting tax dollars on i-club.
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It's a government holiday, so most of the right-wingers are home today, instead of wasting tax dollars on i-club.

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Old 01-20-2003, 05:56 PM   #18
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At a church service today the president said (I'm paraphrasing here because I don't remember his exact words), that the ideas of justice and equality come from the church.
With all due respect to anyone's beliefs, this is rather true.

There isn't a person on the planet that can deny the fact that religion exists because it instills morals on people that are generally good. Just look at the BIG picture, not the stupid BS interpretations, etc.
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Old 01-20-2003, 05:57 PM   #19
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Default Wow...

I glad nobody responsed for awhile. It allowed y'all to feed on each other.

You need to read what y'all wrote. Geez, the sour grapes! Please re-read it, it is pretty darn funny in a sad way...do y'all really know how biased you are?

We have SF, Greater DC Area, Co, NY, NJ, and So. Cal geographic areas represented in the replies. Hummm, seems like a Democractic slumber party.

Seriously, I believe he was referencing the European Jewdeo-Christian source of the founder father's education and upbringing.

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Old 01-20-2003, 05:59 PM   #20
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Old 01-20-2003, 06:03 PM   #21
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Morals and values were not created around religion. Religion was more or less created around those very values and morals that some religion claims to have created. So if he's speaking on a broad term that "All" ideas of justice and equality come from the church, he's a bigger @$$ than i thought.
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He was not referring to the founding fathers....he was talking about MLK.
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Morals and values were not created around religion. Religion was more or less created around those very values and morals that some religion claims to have created.
Yeah, true... but what percentile in his age group was raised up going to church religiously (no pun intended)? Probably a damned high number...
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