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04-20-2013, 12:46 PM | #1 |
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Touching up 2013 WRX WRB paint
So I noticed I've got some swirl and wispy marks from me possibly using too abrasive of a cloth to clean the car and I wanted to touch it up a bit.
I took my fog light replacements Subaru gave me because I thought they've be a good test for color comparison. I'm using the 02C touch-up Paint from Subaru themselves, "WR Blue Pearl". I'll drop a picture below. Something just doesn't sit right. The coloring seems to be just too dark for a match even if I gave it some time to dry. Should I try mixing it with a bit of water or something? I know that the clear coat would make it pop, but it still seems too dark. Though I will admit, I don't know **** about paints, but I feel like this would just look wrong if I went over a big spot on my car with it?
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04-20-2013, 12:59 PM | #2 |
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Pics of the actual issues on the car? Swirl marks are not touched up, they are removed via a polisher and the right product.
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04-20-2013, 01:02 PM | #3 |
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Thanks, let me get out there and see if I can get a picture with decent lighting.
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04-20-2013, 01:49 PM | #4 |
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U will have to wet sand this and then buff it with a polisher, if u want it to actually look right.
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04-20-2013, 07:49 PM | #5 |
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Dude, the SAME exact thing happened to me. I hate what it looks like. I've tried Meguiar's Rubbing Compound, Meguiar's Polish, and 3M Scratch Remover. Nothing has seemed to work.
So now, I just ordered a variable speed buffer at Amazon. Neiko is the manufacturer, the price came to $70 with shipping. I am hoping that a little elbow grease will allow me to blend the touch up paint and the factory paint. My fear with sanding is that I'll damage the factory paint surrounding the area with the touch up paint, and I'll end up having to use more touch up paint. I also used factory 02C touch up paint. You can only see it at certain angles, but it bothers me. |
04-20-2013, 08:06 PM | #6 | |
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04-20-2013, 08:19 PM | #7 | |
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04-20-2013, 10:22 PM | #8 | |
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04-20-2013, 11:46 PM | #9 | |
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The one I got has slow start and variable speed. I can also swap out for a softer pad right? Do you think I should cancel my Amazon order right now and go with the orbital kind? |
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04-21-2013, 03:10 AM | #10 |
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Wow. People give advice and dude just totally ignores it. Dafaq. If its not a paint chip then your not supposed to use touch up paint
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04-21-2013, 06:24 AM | #11 | |
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Also $20 isn't going to get you where you need to be. If I were buying a polisher right now it be the griots garage 6" random orbital This would be it: https://www.detailersdomain.com/Grio...Kit_p_683.html With that kit and the right product, there wouldn't be much that is machine fixable that you wouldn't be able to get out. Anything worse i would leave to the pros. |
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04-21-2013, 10:21 AM | #12 |
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Just a suggestions, I had horrible swirl marks in my car from dealer washing and the old owner, I went and got a full detail=no more swirls+only have to use water and a microfiber to "wash" it now
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04-21-2013, 03:20 PM | #13 |
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Thanks, ...that is exactly why I am on this thread and reading the good info here, but I would rather try to fix it myself first as I also have my wife's 05 Impreza to do. Any help is appreciated as to what compound or compounds and equipment to buy. ...That Griot's Garage 6 inch Random Orbital Polisher Base Kit looks very promising quality poducts, ... .
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04-21-2013, 06:04 PM | #14 | |
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I have watched a few videos online about buffing, and was going to watch a few more before the one I purchased arrives. No one was complaining about burning their paint in the Amazon reviews for the one I purchased, but I will still be careful. I also assumed (maybe incorrectly?) that slow-start and variable speed gave me the flexibility to underestimate the amount of buffing I'd need to do and work up from there. What do you use if it is not a chip? I was under the assumption that touch up paint is just paint bottled inside of a pen with a brush in it. The same kind of paint you'd use if you had one of those fancy sprayers. |
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04-21-2013, 10:16 PM | #15 |
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I've recently been doing a bunch of research on stuff like this lately, hopefully I can help a little bit. You really want a DA polisher (dual-action) it doesn't spin on a center bias, but it's off set and will not burn through your paint like a buffer spinning around a center point.
http://www.ammonyc.com/detailing/rid...-vs-griots-da/ this is a good video to show the differences between all the different kinds of electric buffers/polishers. Check out that website to learn more about getting your touch up job perfect. You really need to wet sand that down and use the proper polishes/glazes/wax or paint sealants to get that out of the factory look. Good luck and keep us posted. |
04-21-2013, 11:02 PM | #16 |
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Hah, awesome. I like that guy. I watched a video of him detailing a $1,000,000 Ferrari (F-40?). He's a cool guy who seems like he knows what he's talking about. Thanks.
EDIT: It was a 288 GTO. Also here is the video to watch. From 5:00 in, he is talking about how to deal with the touch up paint you've just applied to your scratch. I haven't seen it all the way through yet, but he did use the OEM touch up paint which he says looks "worse" for the simple reason that it has bubbled over the original scratch and is no longer smooth. Note: he did not use the touch up paint's pen OR it's brush, but rather a fine tipped brush he bought at a hobby store. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...jWbx03s#t=300s Last edited by jadawgis732; 04-22-2013 at 12:40 AM. |
04-22-2013, 05:04 PM | #17 |
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Polishing
Thanks for the info. I also had a similar question and this helped out a lot. Thanks for veryones imput!
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04-27-2013, 04:43 AM | #18 |
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Just wanted to let people know that the way I dealt with this was to wetsand with 2000 grit lightly! then used the Meguiar's DA PowerSystem tool (it attaches to your drill and becomes a 4" polisher) compound, then polish. You can still see the imperfections, but it's much better than before. (Sorry I don't have before pictures to share.)
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04-27-2013, 08:38 AM | #19 |
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I have seen that tool and honestly don't get why anyone would buy it, way too hard to control, and would be terribly inefficient for anything other than a small panel. Why not have something you can do a small fix, or the entire car. I got my portercable for like $80 off amazon and spent another $30 on pads. With the porter cable and patience I was able to do this with a dark blue metallic sonata that was trashed.
I am a novice, far from pro. Right tools, good product, and patience is all you need. Don't skimp or suffer the below average results Last edited by dsn112; 04-27-2013 at 08:44 AM. |
04-27-2013, 05:55 PM | #20 |
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Which porter cable did you get? I do have a 7" rotary that is about to get sent back. Everyone was saying I'd burn through my paint with that.
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04-27-2013, 06:21 PM | #21 |
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You would, I have the 7424xp, but as I said earlier on here, get the griots 6". It's a little better and around the same price
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04-28-2013, 05:31 PM | #22 |
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Ahh, I saw that one. I thought variable-speed polisher meant rotary...I thought it would be advertised as a DA or orbital if it was one. Besides, it's $120 now...but it does have GREAT reviews! Too bad I didn't see that one. Maybe over the summer...
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04-28-2013, 06:13 PM | #23 | |
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You're talking about the covers for the fog light compartment? Those are plastic, aren't they? I think it'd look different on plastic than metal. By the way, when I asked about touch up paint at my local Subaru they asked for my VIN number. Did they ask for yours, or just what color it was? |
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04-28-2013, 06:32 PM | #24 |
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It usually is on detailing sites. If you go on autogeek.net or detailers domain you will see it under da or random orbital. Detailers domain does a bunch of specials where you get the polisher, backing plate, and your choice of 5 pads. Buy it that way and you will be set
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04-28-2013, 07:32 PM | #25 |
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Yep, I just found out the difference. DA are just random orbital with a free spindle, if I have it correct. I probably will buy a full size DA polisher (and most likely the Porter-Cable) after watching this video.
EDIT: This guy is hilarious. Touting the ease of use of the 7424XP Haters gonna hate Last edited by jadawgis732; 04-28-2013 at 07:45 PM. |
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