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Old 09-12-2019, 06:49 AM   #1
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No electrification for the German pickup.

Volkswagen is on a mission to electrify almost its entire lineup but one of the very few models that won’t embrace electrification is the Amarok pickup. The next-generation of the truck will stick with traditional internal combustion engines running on gasoline and diesel when it arrives on the market sometime in 2022.

The information was revealed by VW's chief operating officer, Ralf Branstatter, who confirmed to CarSales during the 2019 Frankfurt Motor Show no hybridization is planned for the Amarok. "At the moment this type of car [Amarok], there is no plan to electrify," he told the online publication without going into specific details.

Sharing its platform and many technologies with the next-gen Ford Ranger, the Amarok could get range-topping V6 diesel and gasoline engines, depending on the market. The current Amarok V6 TDI has 255 horsepower and 428 pound-feet (580 Newton-meters) of torque and tuners like ABT can boost the output to 302 hp (225 kW) and 465 lb-ft (630 Nm). CarSales reports the new Ranger could get a 2.7-liter twin-turbo gasoline and a 3.0-liter V6 diesel engines that might also find an application under the hood of the Amarok.

It will be interesting to see whether the new Ranger, which should be almost identical to the new Amarok in many aspects, will also rely only on fossil fuels. In Europe, the pickup segment is still dominated by diesel-powered models, while in the United States gas-fed trucks are in the lead.

The collaboration between Ford and Volkswagen could help the German manufacturer export the new Amarok from Europe to the North American market. There’s no decision taken at the moment but VW is currently analyzing the prospects and the potential green light depends on the final product which would have to be “appropriate for sales worldwide.”
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Bring it here dammit!
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Honestly, the concept that they showed to judge US interest was the first pickup truck that I have legitimately though could end up in my driveway.

Bring it. People will buy it.
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Honestly, the concept that they showed to judge US interest was the first pickup truck that I have legitimately though could end up in my driveway.

Bring it. People will buy it.
Agreed. It could slide right into the segment the ridge line is in. Comfortable small sized truck that’s good for daily driving, running to Home Depot for the house, and throwing the kids soccer **** in the back.
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I can tell you from experience as the owner of an F150 King ranch and a ridgeline. THe ridgeline is a better daily driver in every possible way for day to day hauling and driving. Since I do not need 10k lbs of towing, the KR was completely and total overkill
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Stop being a bunch of twunts and bring it state side dammit.
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VW could buy Ford cheap now. $4.5 ish a share
RA OH ! Bad news 3/16
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...us/5084066002/

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A Ranger based pickup? I'm out.

Although I do think that VW could bring the level of refinement that I feel these trucks need to at least have available. I get that they need to offer simple "Work trucks", but I think a lot of people would go for a premium-suv-like interior rather than a spartan work truck with a poorly designed touch screen slapped in there.
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Uh, not likely. See their valuation and thats just a starting point.

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A Ranger based pickup? I'm out.

Although I do think that VW could bring the level of refinement that I feel these trucks need to at least have available. I get that they need to offer simple "Work trucks", but I think a lot of people would go for a premium-suv-like interior rather than a spartan work truck with a poorly designed touch screen slapped in there.
I think they mean Ford Ranger size with VW refinement.
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I think they mean Ford Ranger size with VW refinement.
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volksw...looks-promised

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"Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles has taken a major strategic step by establishing its cooperation with Ford. The successor to the Amarok will be one of the first fruits of this collaboration," said Volkswagen Group CEO Herbert Diess during the Volkswagen Group's 2020 annual media conference.
It sounds like this is going to be a VW/Ford collaboration. VW was quoted saying that the unibody Amarok that was shown a little while back is shelved because americans don't like unibody pickups and don't want to end up just being another ridgeline.
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If this turns out to be another turbo-4 auto-only only pickup no thanks.
NA V6 or I6, manual trans, selectable 4hi, 4low, 2rwd with mechanical diffs please. Who am I kidding, I won't consider a truck from VW anyways because I'd need a piece of third party equipment to turn off traction control, and have to buy the ultra loaded version to avoid the tartan seats and get automatic climate control.
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If this turns out to be another turbo-4 auto-only only pickup no thanks.
NA V6 or I6, manual trans, selectable 4hi, 4low, 2rwd with mechanical diffs please. Who am I kidding, I won't consider a truck from VW anyways because I'd need a piece of third party equipment to turn off traction control, and have to buy the ultra loaded version to avoid the tartan seats and get automatic climate control.
You're high if you think it would come with a manual in the US. Just give me a solid auto with paddle shifting, selectable 4wd modes, either a v6 turbo or a fancy 5 cylinder turbo with decent features for $40k
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You're high if you think it would come with a manual in the US. Just give me a solid auto with paddle shifting, selectable 4wd modes, either a v6 turbo or a fancy 5 cylinder turbo with decent features for $40k
I am in no way under the delusion that it will come with a manual, that was just wishful thinking and a comment on the market.

I do think it's just going to be more noise in the market though. Unless VW does something with underbody aero/insulating panels and suspension tuning to provide a quieter cabin, a better ride and better handling it's not likely to feel upmarket enough to demand the price bump when compared to the vehicle it's based on (Ranger if reports are to be believed). VW interiors are nothing to write home about.

Does VW have an NA V6 in their lineup? A turbo I4 isn't going to help it stand out, and a turbo V6 is going to price it into the "well equipped" 1/2 ton territory. An NA V6 would likely price it into entry level NA V6 1/2 ton range as is. What is the target demographic? VW fanbois/fangoils that want need or think they need a truck?

The truck market is a difficult place to move into, mid-size doubly so, considering the market already.

Taco Tuesday, GM's two trucks one cup, Ford Danger (to head gasket) Ranger, Nissan - The Final Frontier, Jeep Russell Crowe, Honda Ridgeline - a lot of competition with nary a niche to be carved out, save near-lux/comfort, but a BOF isn't going to match a uni-body for road manners/comfort/cabin space.
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German brand’s second-generation dual-cab 4x4 ute will be built in three countries after its debut in 2022

The next-generation Volkswagen Amarok has been officially teased again, following an initial teaser sketch in March 2020 and a second similar image in March 2021.

However, the third instalment in a teaser campaign that will culminate in its full reveal in 2022, followed by its Australian release in 2023, reveals front three-quarter, side profile and, for the first time, interior renderings of the new Amarok.

Once again the images show a top-shelf hard-core off-road version of the ‘premium’ global pick-up – which is likely to again be offered here only in dual-cab 4x4 ute form – similar in concept to the upcoming Walkinshaw-enhanced W580X version of the current Amarok.

But our first look at the new ute’s high-tech interior show the next Amarok will indeed not be a carbon-copy of the new Ford Ranger on which it’s based, neither inside nor out.

These two fresh images of the all-new Amarok were revealed to local media during a presentation in Sydney this week, which Volkswagen Group Australia says underlines the importance of this market to the new model.



This is the first time that these images will be shown in the world,” said the company’s commercial vehicles director, Ryan Davies.

“We’ve managed to steal these images from global, because we’re such an important market.”

The exterior image, which shows the new dual-cab mud-slinging its way through a South African desert (the 2023 Amarok will be produced in Silverton, SA instead of Hannover, Germany, and will also continue to be built in Pacheco, Argentina), doesn’t give away much more detail than we’ve seen previously.
Volkswagen’s new signature full-width LED light bar features up front, while massively flared guards play up the Amarok’s rugged off-road capabilities.

“What you see here is very much a Volkswagen,” said Davies, highlighting the design differences between the Amarok and the Australian-developed 2022 Ford Ranger with which it shares its third-generation T6 ladder frame.


“It very much has a strong and confident stance in the way that it presents, and in every way, as we’ve expressed before, the Amarok has genuine Volkswagen DNA.

“This is the car that our designers both in Melbourne and in Europe have been working on tirelessly over the last few years to come up with a car that expresses what we know are the absolute attributes of Volkswagen.”

However, the interior sketch reveals a much more upmarket space with more passenger car-like qualities, such as a fresh steering wheel with plenty of buttons, as well as a smaller and neater gear selector on a centre console within a relatively minimalist cabin.

A large storage cubby built into the dash also features in front of the passenger, while lashings of grey and brown break up a mostly dark interior colour theme.
Perhaps most significantly, although it’s partly obscured, the new Volkswagen Amarok also features a large central portrait-style infotainment touch-screen similar to the one in top-spec versions of the new Ranger.

It’s likely that various variants of the new Amarok will borrow the Ranger’s 10.1- and 12.0-inch touch-screens – and its 8.0- and 12.4-inch digital instrument clusters – but employ Volkswagen’s own multimedia operating system.

“The striking front, and above all the defining X design clearly distinguish the new Amarok and emphasise its claim to be leading the way,” said Head of Design at Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles, Albert-Johann Kirzinger.

“We’ve given the strength and power of the new Amarok an unambiguous expression – with clear Volkswagen DNA, inside and out.”

Local Volkswagen officials remain tight-lipped about the next Amarok’s equipment levels, but insist it will bring “significantly more driver assist systems” and segment-first innovations.

It’s been known for some time that the 2023 Amarok will be powered by the same engines as the 2022 Ranger, which Ford recently confirmed will be headlined by a 3.0-litre turbo-diesel V6 with class-leading outputs of up to 200kW/600Nm, supported by 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo-diesels.


In a global press release issued this evening, Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles confirmed the new Amarok was being developed by teams in Australia and Europe, before it becomes available to order “in the first few markets” including Europe from late 2022.

“No matter whether it be in South Africa or Australia, pick-ups represent an approach to life and without them certain tasks would be impossible to master. When faced with large loads, challenging country tracks or off-road terrain, everyone is then happy to have a pick-up they can rely on,” said VCV.

“The new Amarok not only has a completely new appearance inside and out, but in future also has even more extensive equipment on board, which is useful not only when being utilised as work tools.

“The Amarok will from 2022 thus be featuring innovations that have not been seen before in this segment. And it will still, of course, not be deterred by any rough terrain.”

Although its Australian sales fall well behind market leaders like the Ranger and Toyota HiLux, the Amarok has found almost 7500 customers Down Under so far in 2021 (up 20% on 2020), and more than 800,000 worldwide since 2010.


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Australian articles bring confusion... will this come to the US?

I trust VW to clean up the interior and make it feel a bit more premium, but obviously sounds like it'll just be a ford ranger, which isn't necessarily the worst thing. Maybe that means VW could bring it here, since they might be able to avoid the antiquated chicken tax?
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Mid to small trucks are all the rage in the US right now. There's no reason they shouldn't bring it over this time.
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