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Old 08-22-2018, 10:35 AM   #26
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I know this is 3 years old, but...

"Small?" Really? I bet this thing weighs well into the 3000 pound range.
Everything except sub compacts weigh into the 3000lb range these days.
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Old 08-22-2018, 01:47 PM   #27
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I know this is 3 years old, but...

"Small?" Really? I bet this thing weighs well into the 3000 pound range.
Lets see why this could possibly weigh more than a 80’s-90s small truck

-Advanced electronics and infotainment
-Better quality materials
-All the new safety requirements (airbags, etc)
-Emission control systems

Those are just a few thoughts off hand. Thinking that a new age small pickup will in anyway resemble that of a 90’s ranger or s10 is foolish. Might want to get with the times.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:17 PM   #28
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Subaru could have done this with the Tribeca chassis.

It seems that Kia/Hyundai is doing everything we wish Subaru would do.
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:44 AM   #29
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The Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Sierra will soon have another small pickup to compete with in North America. This new rival won’t come from Ram or another established truck maker – but rather Korean automotive behemoth Hyundai.
Hyundai confirmed this week that the Santa Cruz compact pickup will go on sale in the U.S. for the 2021 model year and will be built at its large Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama complex in Montgomery.

While the Santa Cruz may manage to steal a few customers away from the Colorado and Canyon, it probably won’t be intended for the same type of customer. The Colorado and Canyon are mid-size, body-on-frame pickups, but the Santa Cruz will be quite a bit smaller and will be unibody like a crossover. In other words, it will essentially be a crossover with a bed – which may actually be rather appealing among the “lifestyle” crowd that so many crossovers are marketed toward these days. In fact, Hyundai’s press release doesn’t even refer to it as a pickup truck, but rather a crossover.

“Santa Cruz is for those who want all the traditional attributes of a compact utility vehicle, but need the day-to-day versatility of an open bed,” the company said. “It’s the crossover that creates a whole new segment that successfully combines capability and utility to meet the unspoken needs of a new generation of buyers, especially Millennials.”


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The addition of the Santa Cruz also represents a solid investment in the South Korea brand’s American infrastructure and workforce. The HMMA complex will require a $410 million expansion in order to build the Santa Cruz, which will go toward the addition of new stamping, welding and parts processing areas. It will also add 200 jobs directly at the plant and another 1,000 or so with parts suppliers around the Montgomery region.

The Santa Cruz will likely be a four-cylinder with standard front-wheel drive and optional all-wheel drive. It is also expected to be based on the same platform as the Hyundai Tucson crossover.


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As we reported previously, GM is currently working on its own new compact unibody pickup truck in the way of the next-generation Chevrolet Montana, which will launch sometime next year. The new pickup will ride on the GEM platform, which stands for Global Emerging Markets, and will have front-wheel drive and a four-cylinder engine. It won’t be sold in North America, with the model being developed for South American markets only (hence the GEM platform). If the Santa Cruz is a major success for Hyundai, we wouldn’t be shocked to see GM and Ford make their own competing models. At the same time, though, both GM and Ford may risk pulling customers away from their established Colorado/Canyon and Ranger lineups, which would likely be more profitable than a compact pickup like the Santa Cruz.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:03 AM   #30
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It's looking really good. I hope Kia comes out with a version as well. (I just like Kia better)
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:48 PM   #31
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It's looking really good. I hope Subaru comes out with a version as well. (I just like Subaru better)
Fixed that fer ya...
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:01 PM   #32
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It's looking really good. I hope Subaru comes out with a version as well. (I just like Subaru better)

Fixed that fer ya...
Yes! That would be awesome!
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Old 11-15-2019, 04:19 PM   #33
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Yes! That would be awesome!
subaru did that years ago with the brat and the baja. now may be a good time to bring them back
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Old 11-15-2019, 05:01 PM   #34
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That was too long ago. We need an updated one!
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:21 AM   #35
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I could easily see a ridgeline competitor with an ascent platform truck. Suby would be the only ones to pull that off with any hopes of success.
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:43 AM   #36
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The way people are getting excited about the Tesla Truck reveal, Subaru could put out just about anything and it would sell. As long as they tout towing & cargo capacity (and maybe 0-60).
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Old 11-22-2019, 10:54 AM   #37
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Itd be nice to see a subsegment develop in the midsize truck category, RL, SC, and hopefully a suby entry. RL is great, bet the latters would be too.
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Old 11-22-2019, 11:54 AM   #38
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Subaru really has the pieces together to create a RL competitor. The Ascent has the size, ground clearance, standard AWD, tows 5000 lbs. Even the HTCVT would be fine considering it wouldn't be a heavy duty towing rig. Subaru also has the outdoor image so a truck would fit their image.
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:46 AM   #39
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Yep. The loss of the compact pickup left a void that hasn't been filled.
If they make an all electric one then I might have to at least take a look.
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Old 11-23-2019, 07:50 AM   #40
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What's the point in offering a FWD truck at this point? We're so close to the normalization of mainstream electric drivetrains that it doesn't make sense at this point to pick FWD over that for small pickups. Cost is the only thing, but there's no price point in which I would look at a FWD truck and say "OK, I'll take one."
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Old 11-25-2019, 10:42 AM   #41
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FWD truck does not make sense. But I also feel the same way about CUV's too. AWD to begin with. Now FWD with rear EV motors would make sense.
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Hyundai isn't aiming to steal mid-size truck sales... it's after car buyers who want a little versatility.

Also, the FWD thing was only suggested by the person writing the article, not Hyundai. It could come in AWD only, who the heck knows.

But either way, I think the fact that they're not aiming to be a mid-size truck replacement, FWD will be fine for the people who chose it. I feel like something like this would work well for a lot of city dwellers who have a hard time parking mid or full size pickups, but want some more versatility and an open bed.
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What are the Ridgeline FWD sales? I have only seen AWD models but it could be due to being in Colorado.
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The 2021 Hyundai Santa Cruz unibody pickup is coming closer to reality, and it'll arrive next year.

After being revealed as a concept at the 2015 Detroit auto show, and announced that it'll be built alongside the Santa Fe mid-size SUV in Alabama, we've been excited to see how the Korean automaker's first foray into the pickup segment will pan out.

Hyundai's first pickup is expected to use the Santa Fe SUV's 2.4-liter and turbocharged 2.0-liter inline-fours paired with an eight-speed automatic and all-wheel drive.

Pricing is expected to start around $25,000, and they should arrive in the U.S sometime next year.
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https://jalopnik.com/the-2022-hyunda...ppe-1846591519

I don't hate it. If it has any useful load and the gvwr isn't 2 adults and a tank of gas it could be useful. If it's a compact SUV with a "bed" as an afterthought, it might die in a year or two.
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I don't hate it. If it has any useful load and the gvwr isn't 2 adults and a tank of gas it could be useful. If it's a compact SUV with a "bed" as an afterthought, it might die in a year or two.
It's going to be based off the Tucson so I don't expect huge payload or tow capacity. Same with the Maverick that is based on the Escape/Bronco Sport. This is really a compact truck (think sport truck) than hauler. The Ridgeline will have more capacity but the Santa Fe will be smaller.

I don't know how the market is going respond to these compact trucks coming to the market. If priced right, they will have some appeal.
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Went to hd to buy 20 8' 2x4s the other day. Chucked them in the outback, tailgate closed in all of about 2 minutes.

Dude behind me in a truck spent about twice the time because he had to strap down his 2x4s and other crap, so they didn't fly out of his bed while driving down the highway.

And it was raining, so my wood got home nice and dry. His was going to be all wet.
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Went to hd to buy 20 8' 2x4s the other day. Chucked them in the outback, tailgate closed in all of about 2 minutes.

Dude behind me in a truck spent about twice the time because he had to strap down his 2x4s and other crap, so they didn't fly out of his bed while driving down the highway.

And it was raining, so my wood got home nice and dry. His was going to be all wet.
I hear you. I guess this is why I prefer CUV's (actually minivans) in that I can load it up with these things and if it rains, I don't have to worry about it. I can leave it in the vehicle and unload it when it stops raining/snowing. I also don't have to worry about someone just helping themselves to things in the open bed.

I guess you can put a bed cover on but then it restricts what the truck bed can be used for. If I were to ever get a truck, I would make sure I get a retractable weather proof cover. This way, it would protect items and avoid a mountain of snow.
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I hope they add a pass through into the cab for long items or maybe the rear window can power down....

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