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#26 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 128484
Join Date: Oct 2006
Chapter/Region:
International
Location: Germany
Vehicle:2006 EDM WRX STI WRB |
![]() The Levorg in Germany is CVT only, with the 2 ltr na engine with 150 hp. I guess it´s because of eyesight. Of all Subarus sold in Germany, the percentage of the Levorg is less than five. It´s a big fail on the german market, two reasons: no manual transmission, no fun engine with enough power.
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#27 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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Why? Because, they're always a step behind the standards and they don't invest to get ahead of the curve. Now, Levorg is stuck with the FB20 which does 167g/km of CO2 (WLTP) for 150-hp. Still pretty thirsty compared to the competition. Again, engines, engines, engines, invest, invest, invest ! |
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#28 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 21293
Join Date: Jul 2002
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Oak Park, IL
Vehicle:05 OB Black Bean 1969 W-30 |
![]() It’s not just the engines. The power robbing CVT has to go. A ZF 8-speed would yield better performance and emissions. It would decrease warranty costs also.
Audi saw that 10 years ago and moved on. I have been doing a bit of work in Germany. I have seen one Subaru. Peace, Greg |
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#29 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 132389
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: SF Bay Area
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I have family in France and in Martinique/Guadeloupe and I try and go visit once a year; looking for a Subaru over there is like looking for a unicorn. But, really, with gas approaching 1.50 Euro per liter (probably more right now), why would people even consider a typically thirsty Subaru? |
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#30 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 8197
Join Date: Jul 2001
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Illinois
Vehicle:2015 V60 T6 RD White |
![]() A CVT only Levorg would most likely be a hard pass for me too. I'd test drive it to give it a chance, but its probably more of a compromise than the automatic V60 I currently have. At least I can currently enjoy a turbo inline 6.
Looks of this have grown on me since the first reveal, looks better in video than photos. |
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#31 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 442
Join Date: Oct 1999
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: RI/SE Mass
Vehicle:17 Imp Spurt 00 S2k |
![]() The new CVTs aren't that bad, with paddle shifters and pre-set ratios that the RPMs still ramp up to if you give it more than XX% throttle. I know it sounds weird, but they do ramp up the RPMs and don't just always "stay" at the same RPMs unless you just give it partial throttle.
The flappy paddles help select the RPMs/ratio you want it to be at also. It's not an entirely bad expereince, but it does "shift" still faster than any MT, and works similar to the MT experience, with an option to not shift. --kC |
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Member#: 73805
Join Date: Nov 2004
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#33 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 398222
Join Date: Aug 2014
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Upstate NY
Vehicle:- 21 Crosstrek 06 Miata |
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#34 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 163775
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Somewhere spilling coffee
Vehicle:2014 Ford Fiester ST Needs a wash |
![]() If only this came to the States with a manual...
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#35 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 139693
Join Date: Feb 2007
Vehicle:Dura ngo 95 horrorshow |
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#36 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 131897
Join Date: Nov 2006
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Ohio
Vehicle:2010 STi 05 FXT SSM |
![]() No way anyone in the USA would even remotely want this! Why? It does not have all that black plastic cladding! lololol
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#37 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 873
Join Date: Feb 2000
Chapter/Region:
TXIC
Location: www.testdrivemylife.com
Vehicle:2020 JEEP / Ascent Datsun 71 240Z & 68 2000 |
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#38 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 44652
Join Date: Oct 2003
Chapter/Region:
BAIC
Location: Truckee, CA
Vehicle:16 Colorado diesel ATC Bobcat Pop-up |
![]() This Levorg will be their prawn song
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