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Old 01-08-2021, 06:07 PM   #101
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looks are all subjective. Still looks dorky to me, the big wing doesn't hide it - I'd want to remove the big wing anyway. I appreciate the little bit of added utility that a liftback provides, but just don't like it on a sedan. A coupe, sure, but on a sedan, it just looks meh. I'm a euro car fan... give me a modern EG hatch please. actually, I'd just prefer the Honda E.
Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

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Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

That looks great.

I mean... yes, you have to chose from what's made, but vw does exist and they do still make a euro type hatch for our market...
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Old 01-08-2021, 07:33 PM   #103
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That looks great.

I mean... yes, you have to chose from what's made, but vw does exist and they do still make a euro type hatch for our market...
Golf R vs Type R is a tough call certainly. Since the new model has a rear diff of some sort, if it's more like a Focus RS that appeals to me more than the old one, which is too refined for my tastes.

Honda needs to make the 11th gen Type R sound better - it sounds just like my $21k Civic Sport.
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Old 01-09-2021, 12:19 PM   #104
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Honda needs to make the 11th gen Type R sound better - it sounds just like my $21k Civic Sport.
With a crazy looking center exhaust, it does lack sound and character. Kinda surprised how they don't even offer a variable exhaust or an optional louder exhaust. The way it looks, it should have an exhaust like the Veloster N.
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:45 PM   #105
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taillights & rear 3/4 view remind me of Audi/VAG offerings, nose however looks like it's on the eleventh generation of inbreeding, or that it's been run into a guardrail
Definitely. The rear looks like it's straight off an Audi A3.
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:49 PM   #106
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With a crazy looking center exhaust, it does lack sound and character. Kinda surprised how they don't even offer a variable exhaust or an optional louder exhaust. The way it looks, it should have an exhaust like the Veloster N.
I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
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Old 01-09-2021, 01:53 PM   #107
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I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
It didn't need an active exhaust. Just one that's slightly louder all the time.
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Old 01-09-2021, 02:01 PM   #108
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It didn't need an active exhaust. Just one that's slightly louder all the time.
I meant one like the Veloster N - I don't want that sound all the time.
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I think it's just a cost thing. Hopefully the next gen Type R will get an active exhaust, or at least find a way to make it sound better. The GTI turbo four sounds nice.
I don't think it's a cost thing. Veloster N can offer an active exhaust. They even offered a non-active exhaust on the cheaper non-performance package N that was pretty aggressive and rowdy. It just seems like Honda was more interested in the looks department in the multi diameter 3 tip exhaust and the rest of the "loud" body "vents".
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Like this? Yeah, if only. I have to choose from what they make, not what I want, unfortunately.

I would take a i30N over the Veloster N. But sadly the dream is dead now the Elantra GT is dead in the U.S.
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Old 01-11-2021, 10:59 AM   #111
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I would take a i30N over the Veloster N. But sadly the dream is dead now the Elantra GT is dead in the U.S.
Do you think the Fastback N is a possibility? Audi/BMW seem to love this body style. Not sure how well the body style sells though.

I don't like it as much as the hatchback but it's practical and I like it much better than the Elantra N sedan.

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Do you think the Fastback N is a possibility? Audi/BMW seem to love this body style. Not sure how well the body style sells though.

I don't like it as much as the hatchback but it's practical and I like it much better than the Elantra N sedan.

I would welcome it. It's interesting that Hyundai has different N models for different markets. i30N hatchback and fastback for Europe. Veloster N and Elantra N (coming soon) for U.S. We will most likely get the Kona N because CUV.
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just a render, but it's a Type R render on a Honda City Hatchback. I like the styling on the Honda City a lot more than the fastback on the Civic.
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:53 PM   #114
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I would welcome it. It's interesting that Hyundai has different N models for different markets. i30N hatchback and fastback for Europe. Veloster N and Elantra N (coming soon) for U.S. We will most likely get the Kona N because CUV.
Kona N is for us - what other country would want that?
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Old 01-11-2021, 05:56 PM   #115
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just a render, but it's a Type R render on a Honda City Hatchback. I like the styling on the Honda City a lot more than the fastback on the Civic.
Yeah, that's a car that looks awkward but with wide body kit and stuff it actually looks good.

Looks great here imo:

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^^^ I like that a lot more than the levorg.
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Old 01-12-2021, 01:42 PM   #117
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If they use some of the Clarity rear suspension (compact multi-link to make way for the giant H2 tank) magic to replace the twist beam, and have room for a dual-axis front suspension in the City, than it would be an excellent little halo car.
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^^^ I like that a lot more than the levorg.
Looks like a minivan.
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If they use some of the Clarity rear suspension (compact multi-link to make way for the giant H2 tank) magic to replace the twist beam, and have room for a dual-axis front suspension in the City, than it would be an excellent little halo car.
That Honda manufacturer died a long time ago. People, including myself, are wondering why the sudden change of heart by Honda to bring back DWS on the new Acura TLX and MDX. Did they get tired of BS MacPherson strut design? Seriously, forget 9K redline and refined FWD suspension setups on Honda econoboxes.
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That Honda manufacturer died a long time ago. People, including myself, are wondering why the sudden change of heart by Honda to bring back DWS on the new Acura TLX and MDX. Did they get tired of BS MacPherson strut design? Seriously, forget 9K redline and refined FWD suspension setups on Honda econoboxes.
Well, maybe because Acura gained a reputation of being fancier Hondas with optional AWD. They weren't perceived as a luxury brand.
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2022 Honda Civic Hatchback Spied With Unusual Rear End

What's going on here?

The Honda Civic hatchback is one of our favorite little cars, and we're quite excited to see if the new one is as fun to drive as the old version. Spy shots of the all-new model have surfaced recently, and it definitely looks like its styling will be a lot more restrained going forward, even on the Type R version. But even with a subtler design, it seems that those tasked with styling the car couldn't resist throwing a spoiler on the car. A video taken in Columbus, Ohio, has captured the 2022 hatch dressed in camo that hides almost everything - except a bulge on the rear.

It takes a keen eye to tell that this is a Civic, let alone realize what may be hiding under that awful camo cover, but some have commented on the video and pointed out that this car wears the Civic Si's wheels and has dual-exit exhaust tips, just like the sporty sedan. But the shape of that rear end indicates to us that this is definitely a hatch we're looking at. Could there be an Si coming in hatch form? Possibly, but it's more likely that the hatch will just get some sporty styling cues to help it transition from its former - and garish - design.


We'll have to wait until the summer to see if any of the above guesses are correct, but hopefully more will be revealed in the time between now and then. The new Civic hatch will be built here in the US instead of the UK like the old one and will have to fill the void of the coupe model too, as just the sedan and hatch will remain for the 2022 generation and on. And if you're worried that Honda is adding sporty elements to make up for a vanilla powertrain, fear not - the new Civic Type R will be gasoline-powered. We expect the regular hatch to retain some of that car's
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Honda’s current Civic has been a huge success, with the car even taking out the prestigious North American Car of the Year award upon its 2016 debut. Soon, a redesigned model will arrive, and it's shaping up to be a significantly better package.

Our latest spy shots show a prototype for the new Civic Hatchback. This is the body style that will be used for the new Civic Type R, prototypes for which are also out testing.

There will also be a new Civic sedan, which Honda previewed in prototype form last November, but sadly the Civic Coupe is dead.

The new Civic arrives at dealerships this spring as a 2022 model, initially in sedan form only. The car's design has adopted a more mature look thanks to cleaner surfaces and proportions more like what you find on premium rear-wheel-drive cars.

The low hood and cab pushed rearward belie a front-wheel-drive platform that's essentially a tougher, more rigid update of the current Civic's underpins. The new proportions aren't just for aesthetics, according to Honda. By moving the A-pillars further back relative to the driver, visibility is said to have been improved.

A teaser sketch of the interior shows the design here will also follow the more mature theme of the exterior, thanks to a clean, uncluttered look combined with the latest technology. We're talking a digital instrument cluster in combination with a large touchscreen for the infotainment.

Powertrains are likely to carry over from the current model, meaning buyers should be faced with the choice of 1.5- and 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4s. A hybrid option may make a return with this generation of the Civic.

Performance fans can look forward to the new Si and Type R. The current Si comes with 205 hp while the Type R benefits from 306 hp. More power may be dialed in for the new Type R to ensure it keeps up with the redesigned 2022 Volkswagen Golf R and a redesigned Subaru WRX STI coming up shortly.

One final key change with the new Civic is that production of all body styles will be handled in North America. At present, the Civic Hatchback, including the Type R, is sourced from a plant in the United Kingdom. However, the U.K. plant is scheduled to close this summer.
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